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Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Replies: 4948
Views: 286229

Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)

Also see: Auteur theory. I completely agree that there is a wealth of Lynch self-reference in TR but not quite sure how this can be construed as 'nostalgic'. To take Ronnie Rocket as an example. This is heavily referenced in TR, but it's from an unfilmed script as far as I'm aware. This might be no...
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:33 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: the world is collapsing around my ears I listen to the radio but i can't hear it.
Replies: 3
Views: 484

the world is collapsing around my ears I listen to the radio but i can't hear it.

I paused in a rewatch of TP3 to watch some trash TV and there was an episode of New York Special Victims Unit with the advising surgeon played by the same actor who played the Winkies guy in Mulholland Drive. [moderators, please feel free to delete this thread. But it is strange when Lynch starts le...
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Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: After Kyle, who was the best actor?
Replies: 22
Views: 1527

Re: After Kyle, who was the best actor?

This poll maybe points to one of the problems, or imbalances, with this series. ( I can't be clear about this because I haven't rewatched it as a whole, this was just my week-by-week impression). The first TP was an ensemble piece, you got to spend quite abit of time with each of a central core of c...
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Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:15 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Replies: 4948
Views: 286229

Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)

Rialto What you haven't included in the quote is that I was replying to a previous poster. ah sorry. Understood. Sorry about the 'man' also - It was more of a colloquial hippy flourish that an assumption of gender. I still don't agree with this as a criticism of Lynch's work though: ''There's a tend...
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Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 9447

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

mtwentz wrote:All we really need to know is that he's not seeking those coordinates to find a better cup of coffee...he's up to something really nefarious.


i thought he was just trying to save his own skin. He didn't seem to have any plan beyond survival.
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Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:45 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 9447

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

i realise this is childish, but everytime i come to this thread, i always misread it as : Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Wank
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Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:27 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]
Replies: 9
Views: 704

Re: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]

Is this something that you are saying? That far from being 'abstraction' in the sense of moving away from experience, Lynch's way with narrative is actually close, in a phenomenological, lived sense, to the reality of our conscious experience? I can get behind this idea, in any case. yes, i think t...
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:39 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Calling all who think the original timeline is still intact
Replies: 33
Views: 2342

Re: Calling all who think the original timeline is still intact

Also, the scenes of Josie/Pete are intentionally cut into the middle of the scenes where Cooper is leading Laura to salvation, yet fails to actually do so. I see those scenes as what "could have been" or "what was starting to transpire," before Laura was snatched away and Cooper...
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]
Replies: 9
Views: 704

Re: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]

What do others mean by 'abstraction'? Who has used this term on the forum, especially in relation to Twin Peaks, and can have a go at putting it into other words? the word appears in the post above mine, your own post, in a quote from Mr Reindeer. It doesn't really matter. It just seemed like an od...
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Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:03 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]
Replies: 9
Views: 704

Re: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]

OK. Will someone explain to me what they mean talking about this series, by ' abstracttion' For me it is relentlessly literal and concrete ( in terms of what you are actually shown), the only difference to normal TV is that you are not told how to think about it or interpret. But what is actually th...
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:32 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: So is there anyone else who prefers The Return to the original?
Replies: 91
Views: 5186

Re: So is there anyone else who prefers The Return to the original?

there is a basic difference between the series 27 years ago and the one now that is worth drawing attention to.

27 years ago the cast were young and hot. Now several people are dead and many of the rest are pensionable or semi-retired. That alone might suggest a shift in perspective.
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:26 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]
Replies: 9
Views: 704

Re: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]

Further to the above ( i give it a separate post because it is a separate thought ) You could almost compare the overall structure of TP3 to ' musical chairs' (Novalis' Mayoshka dolls again) - it starts off with all these different elements dotted about different locations and a bafflingly large arr...
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:01 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]
Replies: 9
Views: 704

Re: Season 3 structures and mechanisms [SPOILERS]

There are some other rambling thoughts about the way this thing is structured that i put on the '' just a thought...about the entire extent of our enjoyment'' thread, which properly belong here, so i will repost them for consideration. ( the ' Frostian' mythology backstory material).... fits in with...
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:58 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: The evolution of David Lynch and Twin Peaks (Spoilers)
Replies: 9
Views: 817

Re: The evolution of David Lynch and Twin Peaks (Spoilers)

To get back to the start, though, I think basically what Lynch is doing with shots like that of the door is aiming for the pure Sublime... Zen, Nirvana, whatever you call it. A blissful emptiness. I see it in a slightly different way. The french writer George Perec had a notion of the '' infra-ordi...

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