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by counterpaul
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:23 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Okay, since it's now firmly established that the chronology can be fuzzy, I took another look at the early Parts with an eye toward events that might be presented slightly out of chronological order. I always felt like Parts 1-2 especially seemed to jump around a little bit. My overall opinion is th...
by counterpaul
Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:00 am
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 14 - We are like the dreamer (SPOILERS)
Replies: 885
Views: 288812

Re: Part 14 - We are like the dreamer (SPOILERS)

I have tons of scattered thoughts. Part 14 was phenomenal! Just going to mention a couple of things to start with as I process the whole: - Interesting that Part 14 actually could have totally followed Part 12. I can see how those who saw this by mistake last week didn't immediately notice anything ...
by counterpaul
Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:31 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Okay, I'd say Part 14 has the most straightforward timeline in weeks. It seems to me that everything happened on 10/1 (Day 11, according to Hockey Mask's master timeline). Also, given the fact that the events at Jack Rabbit's Palace have now happened (at least, Jack Rabbit's Palace Day 1), and there...
by counterpaul
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:24 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

I'm not sure if anything is supposed to take place after the evening of Oct. 2 since it seems that is where the finale is headed...perhaps. You've got a point there, for sure. And it does make sense to place Ed's introspective scene at the Gas Farm later on the same evening he was pining after Norm...
by counterpaul
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:48 pm
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 13 - What story is that, Charlie? (SPOILERS)
Replies: 993
Views: 295261

Re: Part 13 - What story is that, Charlie? (SPOILERS)

"The first thing we need to do is get you out of that trailer." Shelly's a domestic violence survivor. Carl has told her they hear fighting in the trailer and Becky just lost it and grabbed a gun to go after Steven. Oh, and Becky was really obviously lying when Bobby asked her point blank...
by counterpaul
Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:25 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Ragnall, I think you're pretty much right on. Not 100% sure about the days of the week--the interview with Hastings way back in Part 1 seems to establish Coop's arrival at Rancho Rosa on a Tuesday, but it's definitely possible that there's a way to make Monday work. It certainly makes more sense tha...
by counterpaul
Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

I would definitely do some rearrangements of Part 13: Day 11 13.01 The Mitchums and Dougie-Coop do a Conga line, bring presents to Bushnell, Anthony sees them from adjoining office and calls Todd, he is given one day to take care of things. 13.02 Silver Mustang delivers jungle gym and car to Dougie ...
by counterpaul
Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Yes, I have lost all confidence in the timeline now. I still think your timeline is likely way more correct than not--it's really only a handful of scenes, mostly in Twin Peaks, that definitely stray. But, yeah, it's getting less and less linear as it goes--or at least, the non-linearity is getting...
by counterpaul
Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:52 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

And the non-linearity continues, with absolutely no ambiguity this time given Bobby's line about finding stuff from his dad "today." Vegas, for the first time, also gets a little confusing with all the jumping around--it seems like the catch scene from Part 12 must have taken place prior t...
by counterpaul
Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 pm
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 13 - What story is that, Charlie? (SPOILERS)
Replies: 993
Views: 295261

Re: Part 13 - What story is that, Charlie? (SPOILERS)

I thought I recognized the arm wrestling ref: he's Jon Turturro's brother/cousin that feeds them horse in O Brother Where Art Thou! Among other things, I'm sure. Frank Collison. Yes. Look him up. He's got a unique look. He was also in Wild at Heart, at the motel in Big Tuna: "That fuckin' Bob ...
by counterpaul
Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:57 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

I've been trying to figure out the somewhat maddening chronology of The Return especially since it became clear that multiple nights had passed since they were supposed to go to Jack Rabbit's. That said, I'm surprised to see people are committed to the idea that the days are out of sync - or have s...
by counterpaul
Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)
Replies: 1211
Views: 341145

Re: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)

Sure, it's a given that the final cut will be exactly as Lynch intended, but that doesn't mean how effectively the story is told isn't subjective. You're totally right about this, of course. I probably could have phrased things better in the post you've quoted. I was responding very narrowly to thi...
by counterpaul
Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:04 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)
Replies: 202
Views: 85407

Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Thanks, Hockey Mask! I would definitely argue that the scene with Coop and Sonny Jim has to take place on Day 11. On day 10, he went to work first thing in the morning and stayed out almost certainly past dark with the Mitchums, so when would he have been able to "play catch?" Below is my ...
by counterpaul
Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:10 pm
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)
Replies: 1211
Views: 341145

Re: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)

Some good points counterpaul. But they did write a script of 400 pages which - by conventional stand-points - would be about 8 or 9 episodes, hence the original 9 episode order. Then I think improvisation took place on set - and some scenes ran longer. And Lynch wanted to try other things, such as ...
by counterpaul
Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:44 pm
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)
Replies: 1211
Views: 341145

Re: Part 12 - Let's rock (SPOILERS)

I still don't get the whole speculation about the "extension from 9 parts to 18" thing going on here. We don't know exactly what happened, but we do know that Lynch has complete control. By that logic, he wanted it to be 18 hours, or thereabouts. This drives me totally batty. We don't kno...

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