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by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:24 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: The White Horse Represents Denial
Replies: 8
Views: 3477

Re: The White Horse Represents Denial

Then again Frank Booth says in Blue Velvet to Jeffrey: "Don't you look at me, fuck. I'll shoot if I see the white of the eyes." If you look someone straight in the eye, that's when you see the white of the eyes. Well, characters also witness the white horse when they're confronted with th...
by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:21 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Satisfied Support Group
Replies: 238
Views: 62077

Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Satisfied Support Group (SPOILERS)

Re: Richard's dream: How does that track with the shift to Laura's POV at the end, or her scream blowing out the lights at the Palmer's house? Or even the names Chalfront/Tremond coming up again in real life (he dreamed them before he'd ever met the woman at the door)? I think it's thematically sati...
by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: Parts Discussion
Topic: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)
Replies: 1325
Views: 306044

Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Cooper simply being on the next stage of his quest - how long do people think he has? It took 25 years for him to be allowed to take one step forward (and one step back). Cooper's going to be stuck on that journey until he accepts every part of himself/crosses through oblivion. Might take a while l...
by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:10 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Poll: Choose Your Top 5 Hours/Parts of TPTR
Replies: 21
Views: 5982

Re: Poll: Choose Your Top 5 Hours/Parts of TPTR

8 - Amazingly powerful running on its imagery and iconography (pieced together from both the real world and that of Twin Peaks ) alone 18 - My second favorite hour; completely gutting and capable of being read any number of satisfying ways, with a resolution that locked several pieces of the show in...
by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:00 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: The White Horse Represents Denial
Replies: 8
Views: 3477

Re: The White Horse Represents Denial

White horse as denial tracks for me. I also love the little "part of the eyes with which you don't see" connection above.
by Cipher
Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:53 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group
Replies: 5620
Views: 1120103

Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)

Lynch wanted the money so badly he refused to do the project as originally offered and walked away with no guarantee of a deal. So, so desperate for another slice of those Twin Peaks checks. What a sellout. Meaning, I don't really give a darn about the black lodge or evil Coop or doppelgangers, I li...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:07 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Season 3 was incredibly mean-spirited (spoilers)
Replies: 91
Views: 25226

Re: Season 3 was incredibly mean-spirited (spoilers)

Cooper and Laura's spirit connection may not have always been present in the series -- though the finale made beautiful use of their shared "dream" in which he's "twenty-five years older" -- but it's definitely existed since Fire Walk With Me , where they're dreaming of each othe...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:59 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 89844

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return (SPOILERS)

diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?). Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand. Hard times? Is your doppelganger on a tight budget? Try Morgan Abizo's Creamed Corn!* *improved recipe Thank...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:35 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return
Replies: 423
Views: 89844

Re: Gender in Twin Peaks: The Return (SPOILERS)

ThumbsUp wrote:diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?).

Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand.
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:54 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Creepiest/scariest scene(s) [Spoilers]
Replies: 38
Views: 11246

Re: Creepiest/scariest scene(s) [Spoilers]

-Moving toward the atomic explosion

-Cole's doorway vision of Laura

-Cooper's face superimposed over his explanations at the sheriff's station

-The most uncomfortable sex scene I've ever experienced in fiction

-"What year is it?" and ending shots
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:38 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 38741

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

I think the distancing composition is a logical extension of the fact that this is by its nature an expansive work, almost the antithesis of DKL's prior mission statement that he only likes to do "neighborhood stories." I think the style will grow on me on repeat viewings, just as IE's &q...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:31 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 38741

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

The everyday strangeness and the accompanying emotional states you mention do work very well at de-automating 'the marketplace', and here Lynch is very much an inheritor of formalist traditions both cinematic and literary (e.g. Russian Formalists using ostrannenie to defamiliarise the world of 'byt...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:18 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 38741

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

cipher - i would have to think about it abit, but the obvious example that occurs to me is the ' dougie at the doctor's' bit where Naomi Watts sees dougie shirtless and you get an edited-in very buff trim and hairless torso: she is idealising him as even more ' improved' than he actually is. There ...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:59 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: Bob
Replies: 11
Views: 3685

Re: Bob

I'm pretty happy with both Bob's birth and death, as presented in The Return . On the one hand, he's done justice for the threat he represented in the original run via episode 8. I absolutely adore the connection to the atomic bomb, grafting the personal cruelty that affected Laura onto this large-s...
by Cipher
Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:50 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return
Topic: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work
Replies: 131
Views: 38741

Re: FINAL POLL!!!!!!! Your Reaction to The Return as a Complete Work

Cipher: The Returns' shots rarely have Empire's ...sense of point of view. surprised you say that. The shifting POV ( scenes seen through different character's eyes, or the way we see one character through another character's eyes, vs the ' authorial ' eye, the always shifting subjectivity, or ' un...

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