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by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:23 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

Wait, wait... Andy moves the chair?!? Really? I totally missed it! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yes! Moves the chair into position so Mr. C can sit down. Watch him do it. It's very interesting. Ok, you caused me to re-watch good portions of 17 and 18, which means my wife’s rolling her eyes and ...
by yaxomoxay
Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:15 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Re: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

While it has crossed my mind that Andy’s “very important” conveyed the mental image to Lucy, it seems to function on a more literal level as Andy pointing at the phone, indicating that the call which is about to come in is very important. Lucy even repeats the words when Frank tells her to take a m...
by yaxomoxay
Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Is Mr C split in two?
Replies: 12
Views: 2243

Is Mr C split in two?

It's definitely tragicomic, good word! In and of itself and especially in response to those who have a problem with his lack of forward progression, I've frequently noted the existential irony in his goal, the achievement of which instantly leads to his doom. It's certainly funny. I think that “lac...
by yaxomoxay
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Is Mr C split in two?
Replies: 12
Views: 2243

Re: Is Mr C split in two?

Another thing to consider is what happens if/when Mr. C. dies. Does Bob need to return to the Lodge? It seems like he has the freedom to roam around the Earth looking for a host when not inhabiting anyone. If Bob does need to return though, then Fireman's and Judy's goal might be one and the same i...
by yaxomoxay
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Cooper's conversation with The Fireman in episode 1 (linear and non-linear approaches)
Replies: 45
Views: 8579

Re: Cooper's conversation with The Fireman in episode 1 (linear and non-linear approaches)

I now really think that the conversation is that last thing (chronologically) that we see in the series. Cooper is very far away. He is asked to remember Richard and Linda from his past. i.e. this scene somehow shows us a future Cooper in peril being guided by the Fireman to get out of it. I think ...
by yaxomoxay
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Re: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

To that end, why did Cooper and Diane travel to another reality? They knew things could be very different where they were going, but had no control over what would happen. It seems like a huge risk. Cooper had already prevented Laura from dying in 1989. This should have become a retroactive change ...
by yaxomoxay
Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

First, I get that Cooper knew what he was trying to do - changing the past, which would result in things being different - but I don't know that we can take that Odessa world to mean that it changed in the ways he meant to change it. To that end, why did Cooper and Diane travel to another reality? ...
by yaxomoxay
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Re: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

While it has crossed my mind that Andy’s “very important” conveyed the mental image to Lucy, it seems to function on a more literal level as Andy pointing at the phone, indicating that the call which is about to come in is very important. Lucy even repeats the words when Frank tells her to take a m...
by yaxomoxay
Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:35 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

Not necessarily. The Fireman might also show danger, that is show the consequences of actions that should NOT be taken. As a matter of fact, the Fireman shows Andy at least one thing that never takes place. The “Andy positioning Lucy” thing is weird/interesting. I’m trying to remember the exact seq...
by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?
Replies: 59
Views: 8465

Re: Did Cooper really fail? Was Laura really supposed to die?

Everything he did followed the Fireman's advice. Major Briggs knew they'd be at the Sheriff station and he wanted Coop to get the key to the Great Northern boiler room. Andy was shown a vision of the telegraph pole outside Carrie's house in Odessa. If he failed, it's because he was considered expen...
by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Is Mr C split in two?
Replies: 12
Views: 2243

Re: Is Mr C split in two?

I was watching the famous phone call. The voice says: “I just called to say goodbye”...”You are going back in tomorrow, and I will be with Bob again.” Now, according to what we know Mr.C does NOT want to be back, he actually prevents it. If Mr.C just wanted to be with Judy he simply had to... go ba...
by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Is Mr C split in two?
Replies: 12
Views: 2243

Is Mr C split in two?

I was watching the famous phone call. The voice says: “I just called to say goodbye”...”You are going back in tomorrow, and I will be with Bob again.” Now, according to what we know Mr.C does NOT want to be back, he actually prevents it. If Mr.C just wanted to be with Judy he simply had to... go bac...
by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: TP:TR Rewatch
Replies: 16
Views: 2448

Re: TP:TR Rewatch

Thank you for this thread! I loved reading your summary, it made me relive the series.
Next time, all in a day, you will enjoy it even more :)


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by yaxomoxay
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:28 am
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Ray/Phillip Jeffries storyline
Replies: 64
Views: 8734

Ray/Phillip Jeffries storyline

What exactly do you think TP fans did on this forum and many others for 25 fucking years? There is a very clear and distinct difference between speculation about things we've seen on the screen and just pulling things out of absolutely nowhere. This thread is mostly the latter, these theories stand...
by yaxomoxay
Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Season 3 (2017) The Return (Spoilers)
Topic: Ray/Phillip Jeffries storyline
Replies: 64
Views: 8734

Ray/Phillip Jeffries storyline

As it were... Capture.PNG Jokes aside, I don't think there's anything that unequivocally jumps out to spell out the reasons and/or details of Coop's fuck-up. But that's the impending mood of that final scene (it's wrong wrong wrong , I get the chills even when I'm just flipping through it to get sc...

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