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Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:51 pm
by Annie
Did you guys see the front page story on Dune with David and Frank?? One of my dreams come true. I just wrote Byron Herbert to tell him about it. Thanks for posting that, dugpa!!

And special thanks to broadaylight for finding it! :D

What do you think David would say now??

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:37 am
by guildnavigator
It was awesome to listen to the interview with david and frank, I remember reading about that tape a long time ago.

Thanks for bringing it to us.

The film is flawed but so beautiful! My favorite film.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:30 pm
by Annie
Hey guildnavigator, you're a man after my own heart!!!

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:08 pm
by ray55
Does anyone know what the two deleted scenes are that Frank and David discuss on the tape? Both seem disappointed in their deletion, but understand why they were deleted. I wonder if they appear on the recent DVD from Universal.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:11 pm
by Annie
Hi ray 55. Welcome! I'm not sure how to find out about the deleted scenes, but my guess is no, they will not be included. Remember the old story that David had to cut up so much of the movie, it ended up on the cutting room floor and he's never gone back to revisit that story?

Anyway, I did ask over on the DUNE forum if anybody knew about deleted scenes on the new release. So, if anyone responds, I'll post it here.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:34 am
by ray55
Thanks for sending the question over to the Herbert forum. It's too bad that Frank and David don't mention what the two scenes actually are, as they might already be on the DVD in the extended edition or deleted scenes featurette. I guess we'll never know.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:26 pm
by Annie
ray55 wrote:Thanks for sending the question over to the Herbert forum. It's too bad that Frank and David don't mention what the two scenes actually are, as they might already be on the DVD in the extended edition or deleted scenes featurette. I guess we'll never know.



What deleted scenes featurette?? I've seen nothing about this.

And the extended edition is just added drawings with narration behind it for those who never read the book (the Alan Smithee version--really bad.) Doesn't appear to be on the new Blue-Ray edition.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:04 pm
by ray55
Sorry about the confusion, I was referring to the extended edition DVD Universal released a few years back. It had the theatrical cut of Dune and the TV cut which featured additional scenes. A featurette called Deleted Dune, with even more deleted scenes not included in the TV cut, was an extra on that DVD.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:43 pm
by Annie
OK, I just looked at those particular deleted scenes and they do not include the original cast or any sign of DL. Just a bunch of extras put in by Raffaella De Laurentiis (Dino's daughter.) So I got all excited for nothing...not your fault...one can always dream.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:17 pm
by guildnavigator
OK bare with me if I am misinterpreting the discussion, but I just don't want anybody to miss out on anything Lynch's Dune .

The deleted scenes featurette has tons of wonderful stuff in it:

- An extended version of Irulan's introduction
- The fremen's reverend mother has a long monologue (with what sounds like david responding off-camera with lines that were supposed to be repeated by a larger group of voices in the final version)
- A discussion between duke leto and thufir pertaining to the prophecy of a young leader with a bene gesserit mother
- Extended version of shadout mapes' encounter with jessica
- Alternate discussion between Paul and Jessica after crash landing (paul is mean)
- Alternate crysknife battle between paul and fremen (original is only in the smithee version) (paul cries)
- alternate scene between the beast rabaan and liet-kynes (rabann rips his still suit and water sprays wildly compared to the version used in the film)
- Extended monologue from alia having to do with the guild
- Paul having nightmares on dune about "turning into killing machines"
- Depressing scene where Thufir kills himself by pulling out heartplug instead of attacking paul (My speculation is that this was a scene that Herbert asked david to change?)
- Paul makes it known that Irulan will be his wife (for political reasons)


As far as I know, all of this was shot by lynch but deleted. Rafaella provides the introduction to the deleted scenes, probably because David is absent altogether from the DVD (aside from stills taken during production.)

The TV version (or alan smithee cut) includes some of these scenes, and also some adittional scenes and extended scenes that cant be seen in the original or on the deleted scenes featurette... The problem is that there are a few scenes in the TV version that were hap-hazardly edited and now there are scenes in which the score overlaps with itself and a few scenes reused here and there, and many extended scenes do not have special effects (notice missing/reappearing blue eyes from scene to scene)

The TV/smithee version also has the horrible scruff-mcgruff sounging narration, but you get to see gurney play his baliset, and you also get to take in more of the wonderful sets that were constructed for the film. There are glaring issues though. They changed the guild navigator's voice (probably to extend the dialogue without having the original voiceover artist present)

I try to understand lynch's opinion on it, and i think i get how he feels, but still...

all versions of the film are full of wonder and magic (to me)

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:31 pm
by Annie
Thanks for all the clarification, guildnavigator (you've got to be a huge Dune fan to have a name like that!) I was just commenting from memory and what it says on amazon.com. I was referring to the Alan Smithee version. I haven't seen those deleted scenes in ages. Don't like to over watch my favorites so I don't get tired of them.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:09 am
by rewak
You realise thats a spambot right? :P However i am real and i just watched Dune for the first time last night, the theatrical version, and i enjoyed it! Ending was a little jarring, kind of expected a little bit more, but overall not nearly as bad as i was expecting reading some of the hate for it.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:34 pm
by Annie
Oops! I alerted dugpa about that one.

rewak, you just watched Dune for the first time? Congrats. That was the first Lynch film I saw in the theater.

Had you read the book first??

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:32 pm
by dugpa
Cleaned and banned. :) Thanks for the alert.

Re: Front Page Story on Dune

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:22 am
by Annie
It was rewak that caught it; I missed it until I clicked on the signature.