MichaelPW wrote:I wonder if the rabbit-like symbol on his black leather jacket is a rabbit shape or maybe a marihuana plant. Also wonder in how far the shadow of the camera man on the set is intended. Interesting detail this white T shirt. Maybe I will have the opportunity to see it in about two weeks. Imagine that normally it is strictly forbidden to wear private clothes during a professional shot, of course. So one more evidence for the flowing between reality and fiction.
I can't see the symbol clearly. Kingsley wears something similar around his neck. I didn't notice the shadow. The idea that he is dressed for the shooting is that maybe this T shirt was underneath the dress shirt of the costume. But now I found something confusing about this theory:
It appears that after Piotrek takes the gun, he is sent back into the movie not only to Smithy's house, as I had said before, but into Nikki's. Some imdb discussions have made me think this. "He's the most powerful guy around, there's not a thing he doesn't know." He seems to have exercised some power in the background to make Nikki get the part. That is why he is seen sneaking around on the stairway when she gets the call.
And according to this, then you are right that the stairways are related. The room of the sÃ©ance was also upstairs.
So the idea would be that he made the whole thing happen as part of the plan to rescue Lost Girl. He went into the story as Piotrek, Nikki's husband, as the man in the green coat. He scared Nikki on the set and she ran into Smithy's house where she became trapped as Sue. Then he went into Smithy's house and planted the gun (as she is coming home with the bag of groceries).
So therefore, now, if he is not simply a jealous madman but carrying out a strategic plan, why would he have killed Devon? That would have no effect on the story at all.
btw - I read that David Lynch used his own house for shots. But I don`t know if that is true for former rabbit parts or for rabbit parts or more than the rabbit parts in Inland Empire. Very nice from him to have his fans a look into his house!
I would think not. I've read that his own house was used for Lost Highway (a "Frank Lloyd Wright house" on Mulholland Drive); they can't both be true. I think he built that Smithy's House the way he wanted it. He must have found the outside, some real Inland Empire house, then made a set to match it on the inside. There are scenes of him working on it in the bonus material.
Interestingly we don`t have a view of Smithie`s house when it turns real - we don`t see what "Sue" sees. At least at that time when it becomes reality. It`s different when "Sue" leaves to visit Billy and his family.
I don't know what you mean. When she enters, the view she sees is the same from then on, isn't it? I'm not sure the hallway remains the same but other people say that it does. What do you see changing?
The first picture of the Peter Lucas site on imdb. It seems that they plan the shooting of the scene in which "Piotrek" gets the gun.
I don't know what they are doing there but he said on the bonus material that he told someone in Poland what he wanted to do in the morning and that evening it was all together; actors, set, everything. I think he meant the sÃ©ance scene.
From their points of view it also could be viewed as if she is one of them since long. Although she really looks like feeling sick, before she says "I`m a freak". Like if she were in a carousel of realities before, then realizing where she is now and then saying "Ok, I accept it (to play this reality role)".
Yes, it looks something like that here; they may be thinking that she was in the past what they are now and now is crazy. But these same girls were with her in the house when she was younger, looking just the same. So it seems that they are only visions of hers. This is why she can control them snapping their fingers.
This version of the monolog woman seems to be on the marketplace, not realizing another version of herself, but seeing a woman who we could name Doris. But the version of the monolog woman who follows the alley realizes another version of her. The woman following the alley don`t accept the version she sees. Probably she kills that version with a screwdriver. But only as that version which the woman on the marketplace sees. The version who follows the alley wants to have the access to the waiting room which will lead to the palace in the end. And she has the key word. I think we have a parallel to the "deep-level-Nikki-Lost Girl"-scene, when "Carolina" whispers (the secrets how to see?, the secrets how to come to Mr. K?, the secrets showing the exit?) something in her ear.
Aha! I had not noticed that the club was in the alley way. (Also, she dies in front of a store called "Star Market".) That follows. I'm not sure who you think kills the other version, the Dern or Ormond character, but if it is the Ormond character then everything fits. I wonder if there are clues to tell us which is which. The scenes must change quickly; maybe the backgrounds. But the one who snaps fingers and raises her hand with the screwdriver reveals the "LB" which has now changed orientation from upside down to right side up (from her view). So I would think that this is the version which follows the advice of Gruszka, Nikki. What confuses me then is that this same version appears to hand to the screwdriver to Ormond and then to be killed. I wonder if something can show us which is which; some thing to show where they are.
I recently often ask myself, whether there could be a meaning in the opposite of "Watch this move" = "Move this watch".
To me it sounds as if she just means that she is going to perform a magic trick. I don't know how this seems to the French but I like the expression in the translation, "Regardez moi faire!" (Literally in English this would be "Watch me do!"
i can't agree that this is canon. It is the mistake of the French translator.
It could be one cause for her sudden leaving. "I have told him so much...He said not many things...When there is a phone call, he speaks and speaks...Says "Think that it won`t last much longer now...Will come to the city"...Obviously he has better things to do than listen to me."
It could be taken to "mean" all sorts of things, but that meaning was put there not by Lynch but by whoever made the translation mistake. The French translator heard a word in Polish and thought it was English, and so translated what it was thought to be in English, which it was not. I don't know what David Lynch thinks about this but Eugene Ionesco liked to have his works translated wrong; he thought it added something by making them even more strange.
It seems to be a quite magically process when she enters the way to the stairs. Transformation of her consciousness could take place here.
Yes but I think there is a way to describe just how it works that we haven't noticed yet. If "it had to do with the telling of time" and they (Mr. K., the rabbits, Janek) needed time to make it happen, then word may have been sent to the guard when to let her in. As if ... they needed to find a crazy woman who was about to die anyway so that a story could be made out of the crazy things she says and build Nikki's story from it. But then there is the question of whether that fits with her being Nikki after her death. Maybe we don't know what happened after her death; we saw the crazy woman die and then the scene cut to Nikki playing the part. But much of Nikki's story comes from what the woman heard before dying, "those who have a way with animals" etc. Kind of mixed up and somehow, it always seems to stay that way.
I don`t know who the woman on the marketplace is. She seems to be completely insane, "because" she doesn`t recognize another version of herself and experience being murdered by that another version of herself, "although" there is no murder in OHIBT. Maybe she commits suicide. After death she seems to be the same version who recognized another version of herself on the marketplace, who (first one) has a very conscious relationship to Lost Girl. Maybe Lost Girl is lost, because she was forced to sold herself by hypnosis.
That's what I'm trying to follow. Except that I don't see how one version of Dern's character can be thought to kill the other as a suicide because that is not what we see. We clearly see the two parts played by Dern and Ormond.