POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
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POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
So why did the red shoes catch Cooper's attention?
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Re: The Red Shoes (POLL-SPOILERS)
Maybe an element of all the above, to a small extent, but I think mainly just something red in his field of vision. That it was those red shoes, I think Lynch probably has a thing for them. But the way I saw it, the main function of the shoes catching Cooper's eye was to divert his gaze from the flag towards the plug socket- this way is more convincing than him breaking that stare of his own volition...
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Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
They reminded him of Audrey, because I think it was the combination of pumps and skirt that caught his attention, the style was similar to Audrey's. Diane was wearing trousers and flats. Janey-E was also wearing red flats a few times but Cooper never reacted to those even though they were more similar to Diane's than the pumps. We don't even know if Cooper has ever seen Diane with red shoes but he did see Audrey wearing red pumps.
Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
It'll probably be the explanation I like least -- stirring a vague recollection of Audrey.
I'd preferably want it to be comprehensible only within the whole sequence: flag -> walking across the room -> power socket, and I'd like it to mean something very abstract, a bundle of things that 'rhyme' conceptually but none of them exclusively. Territory, crossing borders, fire-walking, electricity. Where did I come from? How did I get here? Who am I really? Where is my community?
As others noted in the part 9 thread, when Bushnell tells Cooper they are going to work on getting some answers the following morning, Cooper replies 'answers' in a very uncharacteristic tone (for DougieCoop). It's as if he's agreeing -- he's perplexed and wants some answers of his own, but still lacks the lexicon to express this fully. He's starting to conceptualise himself somewhat, to form a degree of self-distance. He's 'growing up', but into what, he wonders. Why do certain visual cues and words make him ache for another life he can neither name nor remember?
I'd preferably want it to be comprehensible only within the whole sequence: flag -> walking across the room -> power socket, and I'd like it to mean something very abstract, a bundle of things that 'rhyme' conceptually but none of them exclusively. Territory, crossing borders, fire-walking, electricity. Where did I come from? How did I get here? Who am I really? Where is my community?
As others noted in the part 9 thread, when Bushnell tells Cooper they are going to work on getting some answers the following morning, Cooper replies 'answers' in a very uncharacteristic tone (for DougieCoop). It's as if he's agreeing -- he's perplexed and wants some answers of his own, but still lacks the lexicon to express this fully. He's starting to conceptualise himself somewhat, to form a degree of self-distance. He's 'growing up', but into what, he wonders. Why do certain visual cues and words make him ache for another life he can neither name nor remember?
As a matter of fact, 'Chalfont' was the name of the people that rented this space before. Two Chalfonts. Weird, huh?
Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
I'm completely on board with this. The sequence as sequence, in the context of Cooper beginning to rediscover himself as a human in the world, with predispositions and passions and experiences, is exactly what made it so moving for me. One of the highlights of the episode and of all the Dougie-Cooper scenes so far.Novalis wrote:I'd preferably want it to be comprehensible only within the whole sequence: flag -> walking across the room -> power socket, and I'd like it to mean something very abstract, a bundle of things that 'rhyme' conceptually but none of them exclusively. Territory, crossing borders, fire-walking, electricity. Where did I come from? How did I get here? Who am I really? Where is my community?
As others noted in the part 9 thread, when Bushnell tells Cooper they are going to work on getting some answers the following morning, Cooper replies 'answers' in a very uncharacteristic tone (for DougieCoop). It's as if he's agreeing -- he's perplexed and wants some answers of his own, but still lacks the lexicon to express this fully. He's starting to conceptualise himself somewhat, to form a degree of self-distance. He's 'growing up', but into what, he wonders. Why do certain visual cues and words make him ache for another life he can neither name nor remember?
So I do hope it defies as pat an explanation as "it reminded him of these three specific things."
Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
Ambiguous visual cue.
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Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
You're missing the option: reminded him of his missing shoes from his voyage through the electrical sockets
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Re: The Red Shoes (POLL-SPOILERS)
Bingo.alreadygoneplaces wrote:Maybe an element of all the above, to a small extent, but I think mainly just something red in his field of vision. That it was those red shoes, I think Lynch probably has a thing for them. But the way I saw it, the main function of the shoes catching Cooper's eye was to divert his gaze from the flag towards the plug socket- this way is more convincing than him breaking that stare of his own volition...
Red means a lot more in Twin Peaks than Audrey's shoes. Yeah, Audrey had red pumps - like the red curtains (in the Red Room), the red stoplight, there's a freakin' drug dealer *named* Red in the show now, the red blood in which BOB/Leland wrote "FIRE (hey, that's red too) WALK WITH ME" in the train car.... The color red, in and of itself, has meaning in Coop's world.
Re: POLL-The Red Shoes (SPOILERS)
Possible. I'm just saying that sometimes I prefer it when things don't mean more... just mean what shows. And I do hope that these shoes reminded him of Audrey because that would be a feel of the good old Coop who is coming back in all aspects of his personality, the serious ones (case files et al.) and the mundane, every day pleasures that used to be so characteristic of him.
We're not actually going to find out about it anyway, what d'you think?
We're not actually going to find out about it anyway, what d'you think?
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