Theories & Speculation

[p-air]

Hi all, it’s been awhile.

Here are a few bits and bobs I’ve not seen mentioned:

- in the motel room, Mr C approaches a set of blue curtains on the left side of the screen (while talking) and seems as though he’ll part them and enter, but doesn’t - in the following scene, in the red room Cooper reenacts this with a set of red curtains also on the left side of the screen
- speculation that “I know where she drinks” could be Sarah Palmer - now thinking doubtful as the previous line is “do you know where she lives?” and I have an impression they’d know where Sarah Palmer lives w/out having to wonder where she drinks? we’ll find out soon enough!
- fitting Cooper travels through a Purple Zone on the way from the Red Room to the World of Blue…(in my mind anyway?!)
- viewers have pointed out that Dougie walks like Eraserhead’s Henry Spencer, indeed but he also walks just like Dell Mibbler from Episode 29!
- does Mr C’s license plate read “TGIF”?
- the pancakes scene where Dougie amuses Sonny Jim recalls the pancakes scene between Andrew Packard and Pete in Episode (I think?) 23
- the scene where Dougie and Janey are surrounded by balloons recalls the birthday party for Leo in Season 2, as do his “new shoes” - there are also balloons in the drug lady’s house, and on the TV screen at the casino. the original Dougie, for that matter, deflates like a balloon in the red room!
- in Gordon Cole’s office (the room with the mushroom cloud), there is a red-room-style globe/orb thing on a shelf towards the end of the scene

I’ve also just watched “David Lynch: the Art Life” which serves a great backdrop to The Return and a unique insight into David Lynch’s current mindset. In Season 3’s opening four hours we’ve all noticed obvious callbacks to Lynch’s most well known films like Eraserhead, Lost Highway etc. and people are now also finding all sorts of connections to his paintings and other media. I wonder if DL is also trying to tie up all the various projects and ideas which never really made it to the finish line, whether due to lack of inspiration, funding, creative control or perhaps the right combination thereof? For example things he wished he’d done on Dune… storytelling methods he never got to try out on Mulholland Drive… digital animations which never really coalesced into anything… ideas from Ronnie Rocket and other stuff laying around which might never have seen the light of day!

I know that’s what I would do as an artist if I hit the jackpot!

[AgentEcho]

Why is the only glass box image Tammy Preston has to show Cole and Albert a single frame of the creature? Did the equipment not capture Cooper moments before? Did the billionaire come and remove the footage only leaving the one image of the creature? Did Tammy herself cover it up? (if she has questionable motivations, is that the reason for the incongruities in the dossier?)

[wxray]

Why is the only glass box image Tammy Preston has to show Cole and Albert a single frame of the creature? Did the equipment not capture Cooper moments before? Did the billionaire come and remove the footage only leaving the one image of the creature? Did Tammy herself cover it up? (if she has questionable motivations, is that the reason for the incongruities in the dossier?)

Stay tuned to find out!

[-Mr. Jackpots-]

Hi all, it’s been awhile.

- viewers have pointed out that Dougie walks like Eraserhead’s Henry Spencer, indeed but he also walks just like Dell Mibbler from Episode 29!
- the pancakes scene where Dougie amuses Sonny Jim recalls the pancakes scene between Andrew Packard and Pete in Episode (I think?) 23
- the scene where Dougie and Janey are surrounded by balloons recalls the birthday party for Leo in Season 2, as do his “new shoes” - there are also balloons in the drug lady’s house, and on the TV screen at the casino. the original Dougie, for that matter, deflates like a balloon in the red room!

I think that "Dougie" should be replaced with "Cooper". Cooper is somehow trapped in Dougie´s life, but the original Dougie is gone, as you mentioned.

[sylvia_north]

Regarding the different timeline/alternate reality for Good Coop, I don't think that really fits with Mike's message he sees in Part 04. Wouldn't he say something about it? Instead he just says that one of them has to die, implying that they are indeed in the same "world".

That he doesn't say why is neither here nor there- he does say 'is it future or is it past?' again as if he's not certain himself. When he places the ring on the gold and black table, is this before we see the same table and ring in FWWM? There are infinite alternate universes/timelines that are created whenever someone goes back in time and changes the past according to multiverse theory, the causal loop/grandfather paradox killer. When you return to your time, it's not your time, but a changed universe. Killing a Cooper would create a new alternate universe where things are not as they are in the series, or as they are in the dossier, but an entirely new timeline universe where things are changed either subtly or dramatically depending on the observer.

The more [coffee] I th[dr]ink about it, the more I pore over the Secret History timelines LonelySoul assembled, the more I think the multiverse/parallel timeline is the very best theory. I'd wager with some confidence that the dossier in its entirety or in part is an artifact from a parallel timeline or universe.

On page 249 of SHoTP, Parsons wears the ring ("maybe jade" "...gives [Cooper] TWO rides?") and performs a magic trick where he makes one coin become two

Is is possible there is nothing magickal about the ring, but it serves as some kind of memory trigger for time/dream travelers that leads them to fulfill their purpose? After all, Cooper reminds Laura not to take the ring, and Laura says something important to Cooper about his mission. Consider Cooper's amnesia after she whispers her killer's identity, and consider his amnesia in the Dougie timeline/universe.

He then and talks about alchemy and magick and the gold of an enlightened soul, which just makes me think of the gold orb that Mike is definitely hip to- a purpose fulfilled, as a dupliCOOPleganger.

These season 2 moments take on a new significance considering the multiverse theory:

1. 2x9 Cooper says he's going to use magic to resolve Laura mystery before he gathers the group of men at the Roadhouse before the Ben/Leland rouse that ends in jail.
2. 2x11 Cooper takes an ambivalent approach to his defense against his potential extradition to Special Agent Harding:

"i know the moves I’m supposed to make. And i know the board. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. And i’ve started to focus out beyond the edge of the board…at a bigger game. The sound wind makes through the pines. The sentience of animals. What we fear in the dark and what lies beyond the darkness."

It just seems like quirky local-mushroom snacking talk of a man recently touched by a transformative supernatural experience, but it's possible he's really less concerned about his career and more compelled intuitively to follow a chain of events in the tangential dream universe. This is the moment in the series where he seems most hyperaware and secure confronting the magical.

[trismegistus]

I know I'm interjecting here and I'm also not sure if it's been discussed but in the very first scene we see Coop, REAL Coop, digitally phase out. We also see Laura/Not Laura take her face off to reveal a source of light that could be the "unified field" that Lynch believes in. Now, where I'm going with this is after Mr. C kills Darya and pulls out the electrical device to speak to "Philip Jefferies" we hear a voice speak to him about Mr. C "going back in tomorrow" and "I will be with Bob again" Well, I seemed to notice that the spacing and cadence of the language could fit with Laura's way of speaking or the way Coop speaks in all his Lodge scenes. My theory being that who he is speaking to is one of the two or both.

[KnewItsPa]

Just mapping some numbers to some area codes:

Giant Remember: 4 3 0 - Texas.

junkie Mom: 1 1 9 - Cuba.

Room Key: 3 1 5 - New York.

Casino Floor / Slot Machines / The Arm / Wristwatch: 2 5 3 - Washington.

[BMS242]

Did Tammy herself cover it up? (if she has questionable motivations, is that the reason for the incongruities in the dossier?)

Personally I don't think it'll go this route, but it would add a cool spin on things if it did. It would 1) give the scene with Denise some meaning (Cole gets an early warning of a plant that's blinding him through her looks but he ignores it), 2) would provide a nice bait and switch on the untrustworthy agent (Albert very much appears suspect beyond what he admitted about him and Jeffries but it ends up being the attractive agent that we've written off as eye candy for Cole), and 3) add a little reasoning to what otherwise appears to be a poor acting job (the off kilter performance could be attributed to her being up to no good).

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[Metamorphia]

Hi all, it’s been awhile.

Here are a few bits and bobs I’ve not seen mentioned:

- in the motel room, Mr C approaches a set of blue curtains on the left side of the screen (while talking) and seems as though he’ll part them and enter, but doesn’t - in the following scene, in the red room Cooper reenacts this with a set of red curtains also on the left side of the screen
- speculation that “I know where she drinks” could be Sarah Palmer - now thinking doubtful as the previous line is “do you know where she lives?” and I have an impression they’d know where Sarah Palmer lives w/out having to wonder where she drinks? we’ll find out soon enough!
- fitting Cooper travels through a Purple Zone on the way from the Red Room to the World of Blue…(in my mind anyway?!)
- viewers have pointed out that Dougie walks like Eraserhead’s Henry Spencer, indeed but he also walks just like Dell Mibbler from Episode 29!
- does Mr C’s license plate read “TGIF”?
- the pancakes scene where Dougie amuses Sonny Jim recalls the pancakes scene between Andrew Packard and Pete in Episode (I think?) 23
- the scene where Dougie and Janey are surrounded by balloons recalls the birthday party for Leo in Season 2, as do his “new shoes” - there are also balloons in the drug lady’s house, and on the TV screen at the casino. the original Dougie, for that matter, deflates like a balloon in the red room!
- in Gordon Cole’s office (the room with the mushroom cloud), there is a red-room-style globe/orb thing on a shelf towards the end of the scene

I’ve also just watched “David Lynch: the Art Life” which serves a great backdrop to The Return and a unique insight into David Lynch’s current mindset. In Season 3’s opening four hours we’ve all noticed obvious callbacks to Lynch’s most well known films like Eraserhead, Lost Highway etc. and people are now also finding all sorts of connections to his paintings and other media. I wonder if DL is also trying to tie up all the various projects and ideas which never really made it to the finish line, whether due to lack of inspiration, funding, creative control or perhaps the right combination thereof? For example things he wished he’d done on Dune… storytelling methods he never got to try out on Mulholland Drive… digital animations which never really coalesced into anything… ideas from Ronnie Rocket and other stuff laying around which might never have seen the light of day!

I know that’s what I would do as an artist if I hit the jackpot!

There's also the very interesting notebook with Lynch's scribbled notes for a S3 scene in The Art Life Are we allowed to discuss that or?

[Blue rose]

Some thoughts about Dougie.

I think that Dougie Johnes have something with the murdered man without head, because:

1. The body was fat / Dougie Johnes was too, before Cooper came instead of him. His clothes are big and the man in the casino ( I forgot his name) notice that Dougie looks good and ask him did he loose weight.

2. When Dougie enter the Black Lodge his head cut off (like when he was killed). (Do you remember when Good Cooper entered the Black Lodge his stomach bleeding like he was when they shot him with gun or he was lay on the floor like he was stabbed with Windom Earles knife?)

3. The officers that investigate the murder of the man with no head and Rut Devenport discovered that the man is one of them ( Cooper - Dougie).

4. Somebody wants to kill Dougie - so he did it - in Ruth Devenport room.

Just thoughts

[Pinky]

The somewhat-distorted voice on the machine after evil Cooper kills Darya, is it Lynch regular Scott Coffey?

it sounds very much like a modulated Scott Coffey. I'm pretty convinced by that.

[sylvia_north]

Problem I have with body being Major Briggs and Betty Briggs being Hastings' assistant: The body and Hastings are in South Dakota. How or why would Maj. and Mrs Briggs be in South Dakota? If they are there, why is Bobby still in Twin Peaks?

Because Bobby's an adult that no longer lives with his parents?

Sara "Betty" Northrup (called just Betty in SHoTP) was L Ron Hubbard's child bride and Jack Parson's exgf.
Marjorie Cameron (called just Cameron) Parsons Kimmel was one of Crowley's early followers and Jack Parson's wife - this is also the name of the neighbor owner of Armstrong the dog who finds Ruth.
Gerry Armstrong was involved in famous court case where he exposes evidence of L Ron and Parsons doing sex majick rituals together (Babalon workings) mentioned in SHoTP, where Parsons says that it worked because right after he met Marjorie.

Ruth Virginia Whiteside is the name of Jack Parson's mother, who was also his lover.

In the biography “Sex and Rockets: The Occult World Of Jack Parsons” the author writes about a mysterious black box that was found after Parsons’ death. The box contained several reels of film which showed Parsons and his mother engaging in acts of strange sex. Even more disturbing was the rumor of a certain reel that contained footage of Parsons, his mother, and her dog engaged in acts of bestiality. http://www.ghosttheory.com/2013/03/17/j ... and-magick

Ruth Davenport was the unfortunate librarian's head we meet, the face of Mary Stofle (relation of DKL's wife, Emily?)

Just throwing it out there

[Bookworm]

There is something strange (well maybe not really strange but worth noting, says) with the way DoppelCoop is killing. First we have that gruesome killing in Buckhorn, supposedly DoppelCoop doing. Yet the two times we actually see Fale killing someone, he's doing so in an "almost" normal way with one shot of his gun. No carnage, no gruesomeness, more like a drug tug than a psychopathic butcher. So what if in fact DoppelCoop wasn't the one behind the Buckhorn slaughtering of Ruth? What if it's another entity/Doppelganger? Like Philip Jeffries or, why not, Windom Earl? Maybe Fale was looking for an information he want from Hasting, but Hasting under possession by (Bob/Windom/something else) murdered his mistress?

I'm not saying DoppelCoop is a poor misunderstood woobie but maybe he isn't the one behind the killing of Ruth.

[sylvia_north]

maybe he isn't the one behind the killing of Ruth.

BOB and Mike were killing together. Perhaps Mr C took the eye shot on Ruth, and someone else messed with the body. Perhaps someone possessed Hastings? He tells Phyllis "it was a dream!" after all.

[kornishpyxee]

Is 8675309 relevant or just a set designer making fun of us?


/Mordeen

Where was this used? That's the phone # from Tommy Tutone's song "Jenny"

Jenn--and no, that's not my number (kornishpyxee)