boske wrote:When in presence of real art, one is in awe and not thinking of anything else but the art and the joy it brings. One would normally tend to eventually share this joy with the world and not look down nose at it.
You also wrote something about how "art cannot be ugly". I don't know who or what has made you come to these conclusions.
At a certain point in life one just may feel
an essence of a certain thing without having to be told by anyone to what think of it.
eyeboogers wrote:The object of art is to reflect society and the experience of life back at you - in order to make you think, reflect, change. That can take beautiful forms but also harsh and ugly ones.
Not necessarily, newspapers can do that (well they should, the fact that they do not is another matter). Art should be something that transcends the time, not merely reflect it. As Gabriel just said it earlier, it should elevate, not leave one in despair. Is The Gulag Archipelago pretty? Or Kafka's Trial? Are they fun? Or perhaps ugly? Are you desperate having read them though?
eyeboogers wrote:What you are suggesting is simply "pop" in its lowest form. You writing this is of course a good basis for understanding why some have had a unique and deep experience with TPTR while others wanted something nice and pretty to bring them joy.
You could not be further from the truth here. This is not about expecting a cheesy comedy for a quick laugh, a B-flick about four college freshmen, a jock, a nerd, a fat guy, and a token "visible minority" guy. We got that "pop" actually, Dougie had his share of coffee and cherry pie, and Gordon got his wine and women. If that is what we were after, should we not have been delighted and joyful? A chocolate can bring joy, and so can a cold beer, but there is also a joy of being a parent or a grandparent. You can get light from an electric bulb or you can get it from the Sun, let us not compare the two. There is a cheap imitation and there is Art. For example, episode 29 is Art. It is still fresh and current after these 25+ years. That is what is so profoundly disappointing here, and I am afraid you are missing the point.
Btw, there are some nice examples of ugly architecture at http://kunstler.com/featured-eyesore-of-the-month/
, it is worth taking a look.