I keep coming back to this thread because it's more interesting to me than endless wild speculation.
Putontheglasses wrote:
We have come up with a theory that David Lynch is actually doing this on purpose in an epic, meta act of subversion and dissonance, where the audience effectively becomes part of the art. I'm planning on writing it out in more detail as I get time and the episodes keeping coming. After episode 5, we've stopped expecting things to improve.
One thing we discussed just today that I will mention... what if Lynch never has Coop recover? What if he remains in this same doddering state the entire 18 episodes? How long would it take before even the most die hard Lynch fans give in and admit that something is terribly wrong? Also, if Lynch wasn't involved at all in the project, and it was in this state, would the Lynch fans still be so in love with it?
Whether this is the intent, I'd be surprised if it was, it's certainly the outcome! What happens to fans who've been wound up like toys for decades. One thing is for certain, he's not taking us for chumps. Cooper's fate and lodge physics have been meticulously plotted, for better or worse and there is not shortage of puzzling to do. It's a game (cue Cooper saying "Games.) We are drowning in blogs and podcasts talking themselves in circles.
sugarhigh wrote:
Naomi Watts, only seen her in 2 films (MD & We Don't Live Here Anymore, loved her in both) but her performance in S3 is just grating. Again, could be intentional.
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Truman's wife, Candy Clark. I had to walk out of the room, just bad acting.
Try The Painted Veil, so good. Of all my S3 complaints, Naomi is the worst. I want to mute her. I think she's worse than Doris, Candy Clark ruined Man Who Fell to Earth for me. I'd trade one Janey E for 2 Tamara Prestons. Wife trouble that makes Nadine look like June Cleaver. Becky and Stephen were particularly repulsive.
Magnificent tits, have some drugs, ok loser. Where's the love, David?
Northman wrote:oh and badalamentis music is gradually returning especially in scenes involving dougiecoop
You're thinking of Johnny Jewel The Flame- Frank 2000 is the Angelo song.
LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:
Like Dougie's ring turning up in Major Briggs stomach is not something that can ever be made sensical or thoughtful.
It almost feels like Stockholm syndrome, the way I'm opening myself up to Lynch to subsequently mock every character I once held dear, literally shit on their corpses, and insult the viewers intelligence. Then the darkest rapey mysoginy and seething hatred for the world I've ever seen in anything before...
I really don't believe it's Major Briggs. I think it's just fingerprints on bodies at crime scenes that turn out to not be real. But you're right! I don't want to even think about it. Don had a great sense of humor, even so...
KillerBOB wrote:LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:Anyone else still feeling profoundly disappointed? I miss that feeling.
The only thing
profoundly disappointing to me in the last episode was the return to the Double R diner. It just looked wrong--can't put my finger on why--and, predictably, Lynch chose not to have either country music or Badalamenti jazz playing on the jukebox. No music at all, in fact. Totally lifeless
On the regular disappointment side of things, I also didn't like that Dr. Jacoby had changed so much. I felt it was all very in-character until he uttered his "Amazon acai bullshit" line and started hawking gold-painted shovels for $29.99.
The on-location choice was odd to me because we are so used to the set RR. I'm with you on the feeling of it, but at the same time it and Mike's office feels like North Bend completely, which is to say homely but not in a fantasy world way. Toad is a skinny and super old- huh? I thought that actor was coming back, wtf. <3 my Toadster
mlsstwrt wrote:Does anyone feel that the complexity quotient and ambition in scope of the new series is so high as to be dilutive? The level of complexity in the original Series and FWWM was absolutely right for me, high enough to be beguiling and keep me thinking about the significance of the ring, the Lodge characters, etc but with still enough clarity and focus for the universe to feel coherent.
It feels like there are so many things going on now that Twin Peaks is now more puzzle than mystery.
Edit: I will admit to watching the DougieCoop 'Haloooooooooo' casino compilation on YouTube and finding it both hilarious and captivating. There's probably a lot to fascinate and admire in all of this but I can't connect with it in any meaningful way.
Basically!! And same. Slot zombies are funny, kind of a perfect place to toss Droolcoop. The puzzle challenge is analogous to IE vs MD.
AnotherBlueRoseCase wrote:
I can’t go there yet. This isn’t just a Twin Peaks well below the standard of the original run and FWWM – this is close to a shambles and that just makes me sad. No way now for it to rescue itself from these five hours. E04 was a drop on E03, and now we have this sharper drop (apart from the music) acknowledged even by many of the enthusiasts, to their credit. The fear has to be how low can it go, not only in the fingernails/blackboard experience of the scenes themselves but also when we step back and look at the wider picture.
Total cast: >90.
Total minutes to date: ~270.
Minutes of wordless close-ups featuring the mysteries of electrical appliances: >10.
Minutes of screentime for black characters who aren’t sex workers; eastern USA, western USA or anywhere in between: 1?. Minutes before this character appeared: 250?
Minutes of screentime for talking-tree-cum-neurones-topped-with-chewing-gum: >5
[Compare % of Fire Walk with Me’s convenience store demons who are black].
% of women shown as sexually active and brutally murdered onscreen: 80?
% of attractive young women around fiftysomething RussellBrandCoop shown as his for the taking: 100.
Minutes of woman/woman interaction: <5?.
Minutes of deliberate dead air: >30.
Minutes of men delivering shovels or painting them gold or flogging them: ~8.
Entirely superfluous scenes such as the delivery of the shovels: >30.
Minutes that could have been cut under a less eccentric editing policy: >150.
Minutes when disbelief was suspended: <3.
Minutes of adults exchanging nonsexual and irony-free warmth: <3?
% of warmhearted non-1-D characters played by the show’s writer and director: 100.
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All excellent points. Too much arm evolution. Depiction of women tipped from imbalanced to awful. Every time there's a black guy, he's someone's superior officer, WOC are hookers :/ SO business as usual in Twin Peaks (Except Louie from S2- she's coming back, but still- I think of her as the hooker from Interview With the Vampire...) Superfluous shots and dead air, check. Perhaps this is why we got 18 episodes- the director's cut, basically. I'll take what I can get, the fat can stay, just not a lot of meat for thought in between episodes for it being there. I'm only in it for Kale's acting this episode.
