mlsstwrt wrote:N. Needleman wrote:mlsstwrt wrote:Plus as I and a couple of people have pointed out, there's a level of hypocrisy here. The same fans that decried our nostalgic tastes are in rapture because we have a missing piece from the original series back.
Being honestly engaged with the Dougie saga and what it was trying to do does not mean I never wanted Coop back at all. I knew he'd be back and I felt pretty early on I dug what Lynch was going for in the Being There/Jacques Tati/etc. vein with Dougie and his cosmic hobo journey. I felt it was essential to Dale finding his way back. You may disagree, but the point is there is no disconnect for me personally between loving having Coop back and enjoying Dougie while he lasted. I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
That's totally fine. My comment wasn't levelled at you. It's at those who keep accusing us of just wanting a nostalgia fest, which actually isn't true. I mean yeah, if wanting a show that bears some slight resemblance to the original is a nostalgia fest then maybe it is true, lol. In any case though if you're accusing people of wanting a nostalgia fest then practically losing it with excitement when any old character returns, to me at least that involves a disagree of hypocrisy or disingenuousness.
Edit: Fantastic post ABR. And definitely, thanks to Dugpa for not killing this thread.
Perhaps his has already been addressed, but I didn't have time to respond yesterday when you first brought this up and I wanted to get one in while I had time.
I've already posted here or elsewhere that I think that nostalgia is a huge part of not only The Return, but of enjoying it as well. I don't think Lynch is being nostalgic, but addressing it, dissecting it, etc, which is perhaps an intellectual form of nostalgia. I also think that he very much would like to reclaim that old Twin Peaks feeling as much as MOST OF ALL OF US would. I capitalized those letters there to say what a friend said to me after Part 9, which is that if you are not fully invested in the idea of A RETURN, then you are not getting as much out of this show as you could be. He said he will go wherever Lynch takes him, but he'd be lying if he said he didn't want this to be A RETURN. That's what truly clicked this whole thing into place for me. All of the teases and frustration, all of the distance...you can't truly admire all of that unless you're consciously hoping that things right themselves, that Cooper comes fully alive, that the town collects all of its important members under its warm umbrella. So, I'm just writing to say that while some of you have been criticized for being nostalgic (and I do think that SOME but not nearly all of the posts here did leave little doubt that that was indeed the case until some of you stated your cases further) the truth is that I think that yearning for A RETURN is expected of the audience, and is inside the script, and the direction, and everything else. It forms a dialogue. So I just don't think you should be surprised that so many fans of this series felt a new high when Cooper returned, or when we hear the music, etc. It's a truly complex relationship and a very fun game, and the payoff for those fully invested was immense.