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Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:31 am
by Another owl
The real funny thing was hearing Lynch sour and criticizing season 2 for years, showing absolutlely no respect for others work, just to present a tedious and lazy 18 parts season that is way worst than season 2 in every aspect. He managed to screw up all the lodge mithology and plus give us a cast of poor development new characters. I don`t have a doubt that this new season would be criticized with no mercy if the director was someone from Lost or something like that.
Well, FU, David Lynch, you pretentious twat. I would go with season 2 over you bullshit season 3 any day.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:40 am
by IAmHappeningAgain
Imagine if someone criticizes Lost now for having left too many questions unanswered while praising this show? I feel like I know less now than I did before The Return began.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:47 am
by SpookySculder
Seasons 1 and 2 are reality and all of season 3 is a stupid dream Cooper is having while still trapped in the lodge. Yep, that's what I'm going with.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:50 am
by SpookySculder
This.
I expected a modicum of thought put into the script beyond 'It's all a dream' and something more than subplots and characters that amount to nothing. It also would have helped to have cut the extraneous fluff that has been disguised as commentary by people who find watching silent car drives fascinating.
The Return didn't have to be the original or FWWM. It didn't have to be optimistic or even respectful to all of its characters, but it should have been a well-written, structurally sound show. The whole thing felt messy and meandering, and the dialogue felt like amateur hour for most of it. I'm personally not even *mad* about it as I am just baffled with some of the choices made as well as the conclusion.
I don't know how one could watch a floating Bob orb fight a guy in some Rocky-esque brawl and not realize how stupid it is.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:58 am
by Another owl
IAmHappeningAgain wrote:Imagine if someone criticizes Lost now for having left too many questions unanswered while praising this show? I feel like I know less now than I did before The Return began.
That is exactly what I was thinking. The only difference between Lost and this The Return season is David Lynch. I think that says it all about how can someone criticize one while praise the other. lol
SpookySculder wrote:Seasons 1 and 2 are reality and all of season 3 is a stupid dream Cooper is having while still trapped in the lodge. Yep, that's what I'm going with.
And that`s still very awful.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:07 am
by LauraScreaming
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAA!
...and just like that, a sudden emptiness filled my existence. I had to join a form after last night's gut-punch! Unreal...
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:12 am
by mtsi
Not only did we get no answers, we now have 100 more questions, mostly starting with WHY?
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Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:18 am
by LauraScreaming
Honestly, the whole thing wreaks of a "just hurry up and get it done"...
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:44 am
by Bookworm
David Lynch may be an artist but he's in no way a good storyteller.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:55 am
by mtwentz
On further reflection, I am not disappointed in the Finale or Lynch so much as I am disappointed in the fact that this show accurately reflected the state of humanity today- the lack of ability of all of us to connect with one another, as we used to as humans during an earlier stage of our evolution. It seems no one in this series quite connected with one another, and maybe that was the point? If you look at it, except for Janey-E, Dougie and Sonny Jim at the end, there were no real happy people in The Return, and even that reunion was kind of fake and contrived (a 'tulpa'). It is a dark vision, but perhaps a very accurate depiction of how many of us live our lives.
And Cooper never really re-connected with Gordon and the Sheriff's station people...
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:01 am
by waferwhitemilk
In the end it's a 1. commercial tv series for 2. entertainment purposes, that purported to be: 3. a reboot of a classic. I think it failed on all three counts. If anyone sees a deeper meaning in it, well i guess it can't hurt really, but to me it's like reading tea leaves.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:04 am
by boske
mtwentz wrote:On further reflection, I am not disappointed in the Finale or Lynch so much as I am disappointed in the fact that this show accurately reflected the state of humanity today- the lack of ability of all of us to connect with one another, as we used to as humans during an earlier stage of our evolution. It seems no one in this series quite connected with one another, and maybe that was the point? If you look at it, except for Janey-E, Dougie and Sonny Jim at the end, there were no real happy people in The Return, and even that reunion was kind of fake and contrived (a 'tulpa'). It is a dark vision, but perhaps a very accurate depiction of how many of us live our lives.
And Cooper never really re-connected with Gordon and the Sheriff's station people...
Well, James tried to connect with Renee but it did not really work.
But due to his sacrifice we managed to indirectly get rid of the Bob Orb. Yes, and whatever happened to Laura Orb?
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:13 am
by The Gazebo
mtwentz wrote:On further reflection, I am not disappointed in the Finale or Lynch so much as I am disappointed in the fact that this show accurately reflected the state of humanity today- the lack of ability of all of us to connect with one another, as we used to as humans during an earlier stage of our evolution. It seems no one in this series quite connected with one another, and maybe that was the point? If you look at it, except for Janey-E, Dougie and Sonny Jim at the end, there were no real happy people in The Return, and even that reunion was kind of fake and contrived (a 'tulpa'). It is a dark vision, but perhaps a very accurate depiction of how many of us live our lives.
And Cooper never really re-connected with Gordon and the Sheriff's station people...
I can totally see your point, but if so, it's a bit difficult to accept that this fantasy town was brought back to life in order to provide social commentary on one particular issue. Other shows have managed to do that in isolated episodes (like Buffy's "Hush").
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:14 am
by douglasb
Season 4 - Cooper does stuff but in the last few scenes it appears he's flawed. Still.
Re: Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group (SPOILERS)
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:16 am
by boske
douglasb wrote:Season 4 - Cooper does stuff but in the last few scenes it appears he's flawed. Still.
Those are some finest hours in the history of T.V. that we will not get to see.