Audrey Horne wrote:I’m not comparing the Return to the original, only using the good examples of the original of what I meant by tenants of drama and character building. An example of what works for me in general in storytelling.
I also understand what you’re saying about the thrill of piecing together what Mr. C is after. The difference in the affect for me is I feel even the creators and actor are adrift in his quest. Everything is too nebulous to me on a basic level. I can’t go back and enjoy it in retrospect because everything seems like a dead end, every setup an ultimate misfire. Granted, some parts and performances I’m saying nice! Neat! Bravo. Just story structure I wanted more of a hat trick.
And I’m happy there are people that are in love with it, I wanted to so, so much. But I can’t not say I’m disappointed. I really, truly didn’t want to be.
I don’t even know what to talk about regarding themes or ideas. Duality? Not really? Rape, mistreatment of women? There was a start but no exploration. Loss? Everyone has a double, but no Accountability? Maybe if Coooer and Mr. C were in the end the same person all the time, legitimate split halves then we’d have something to latch onto and apply to our own lives.
This is one of the reasons I stay on this thread, so we can engage in this interesting and respectful conversations. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were consciously comparing The Return with the original, but as IcedOver noted, subconsciously, it's almost inevitable.
The Return, in my opinion, is a work of grand themes related to human psychology (consciousness: dream vs. wake state, amnesia/identity, dying/death and rebirth, and the passage of time or at least the human perception of the passage of time etc.) and several subthemes (modern suburban life, guns in America, violence against women, ranting Youtube prophets).
One of the possibilities that really tripped me out during the first half of The Return was when many of us on this board were contemplating the possibility that Rancho Rosa was a 'manufactured reality', which got me thinking even further, what is a 'manufactured reality' and is it possible we are living in such a manufactured reality now? How do we know we are not in a dream, and death is just waking up from that dream (obviously not my idea, but one that goes back thousands of years).
Amnesia was also really important to The Return, IMHO. Several characters experienced absolute amnesia, including Cooper, Laura, Gordon and Albert. Amnesia to me is a very important component of Eastern spirituality, where there are some strains of thought that the universe is literally a conscious entity playing hide and seek with itself, amnesia being something we all suffer from, since we have literally forgotten who we really are.
So since I have been interested in such questions since I can remember, for me The Return was a real treat: Films/TV shows that really explore the human mind tn an entertaining way are exceedingly hard to come by. (There are films like "The Matrix", "Total Recall" and "Inception" that attempt to touch on such topics, and I like all those movies, but ultimately they just become 'action flicks', with all the mind stuff put on the backburner.)