Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:04 am

maxbloom wrote:
Hockey Mask wrote:A forecast is a prediction. Why would they have temps of what has already happened? I don't understand why theyre is any question here.


The today-date is not past, is present. At 7PM the day is not over. Weather forecast work like this here. Does it work like that there or not?

Definitely not.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby dronerstone » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:20 am

Where are we now, is this still 9/30 because no one cared for Jack Rabbit's yet?
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Postby oxyboldine » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:58 am

A very dense chapter, with lots of informations.
Some thoughts:
- We see the Chromatics and Sarah Palmer in this episode. We saw Sarah and the Chromatics in Part 2. Is end of Part 2 a flash-forward?
- The scene with Jacoby seems to invite us to be aware of the exploded timeline in Twin Peaks. That scene was in Part 5. Maybe the scene just after in Part 5 (Richard at The Roadhouse, with Chad) was also a flash-forward (that would mean that Richard gives money to Chad after the accident). But, in that scene with Jacoby in Part 5, Jerry was watching his show in the woods, probably just before he got high... :roll:
- Ben and Beverly are dressed the same way that in Part 9 (second humming scene, where Ben refused Beverly's advances). The scene in Part 12 with Beverly, Ben, and Frank Truman, probably happens just after.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:31 am

dronerstone wrote:Where are we now, is this still 9/30 because no one cared for Jack Rabbit's yet?


I'd say we definitely saw another extension of Day 10 here, with the exception of the scene of Coop and Sonny Jim--which seems to be Saturday morning, 10/1. I'm thinking that everything else happened on Day 10 (9/30). The generally forward-moving, but semi-non-linear, arrangement of scenes continues.

Day 9-10 (9/29-9/30) seem to have been a jam-packed couple of days!

Now I'm wondering if we'll catch up with COOPER and see what he's been up to since the morning of 9/29 before we get to Jack Rabbit's Palace. We shall see!
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:46 am

counterpaul wrote:
dronerstone wrote:Where are we now, is this still 9/30 because no one cared for Jack Rabbit's yet?


I'd say we definitely saw another extension of Day 10 here, with the exception of the scene of Coop and Sonny Jim--which seems to be Saturday morning, 10/1. I'm thinking that everything else happened on Day 10 (9/30). The generally forward-moving, but semi-non-linear, arrangement of scenes continues.

Day 9-10 (9/29-9/30) seem to have been a jam-packed couple of days!

Now I'm wondering if we'll catch up with COOPER and see what he's been up to since the morning of 9/29 before we get to Jack Rabbit's Palace. We shall see!


Just a thought about Dougie-Dale scene in this Part. We see only one scene with him and Sonny-Jim. Like you I'm 99% sure that it happens after the restaurant scene with the Mitchums. But we can notice that Sonny Jim is dressed just the same way as in Part 4-5. He has the same sweater, same pants, same shoes. (and he had different clothes in Part 10).
The episode shows us Dr Amp show from Part 5 too. Does that indicate that the scene with Dale happens on the day of Part 5 too?
Once again, it's just Sonny-Jim's clothes, so maybe it's not supposed to mean all that. Or we will discover in Part 13 what's happening after that piano scene in Part 11. There is also the fact that Mister C. hasn't been seen since the beginning of Part 9, just after the scene with the woodsmen and what seemed to be the extraction of Bob from his stomach...
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby pixletwin » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:39 am

Hockey Mask wrote:
oxyboldine wrote:
sylvia_north wrote:Twin Peaks Gazette linked this one

https://whitecitycinema.com/2017/07/14/ ... -timeline/

TSHOTP spoiler
Spoiler:
Soooo Return is a month after Tammy after gets the dossier?


For him the weather broadcast happens on a thursday. What do you think?

He doesn't take into acount Lucy's sweater thing between part 9 and 10, nor the idea that Miriam's letter arrives the following day.

There is no way the weather forecast scene takes place on a Thursday. The television shows temps for Thursday day and Thursday night. It is already night when they see the weather report meaning Thursday day would already be over. Therefore it has to be Wednesday night.


Wrong. I don't know where you're from but a Thursday night forecast here in the states would include the current days temps.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby NoSleep » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:56 am

Hi. First post.

Audrey's husband, Charlie, says it's a new moon that night, which fits perfectly with the end of September/early October of the year 2016, although that would mean that Andy's watch (part 7) was set on the wrong date.

http://www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/2016/october

However, that shot of the moon just before we look in on Jacoby, would have to be a few days earlier. Likewise the shot of the moon we saw in Part 10, just before entering the Roadhouse, would have to be a week earlier.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:51 pm

pixletwin wrote:
Hockey Mask wrote:
oxyboldine wrote:
For him the weather broadcast happens on a thursday. What do you think?

He doesn't take into acount Lucy's sweater thing between part 9 and 10, nor the idea that Miriam's letter arrives the following day.

There is no way the weather forecast scene takes place on a Thursday. The television shows temps for Thursday day and Thursday night. It is already night when they see the weather report meaning Thursday day would already be over. Therefore it has to be Wednesday night.


Wrong. I don't know where you're from but a Thursday night forecast here in the states would include the current days temps.

I open to discussion but when would an extended forecast include temps from earlier in the day. Never seen it.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:13 pm

Hockey Mask wrote:I open to discussion but when would an extended forecast include temps from earlier in the day. Never seen it.


I don't watch TV news much these days, but I've definitely seen it. "The high today got up to 110, folks, but tomorrow will be even toastier!" That kind of thing.

Whether it's a goof on the part of the TPTR graphics team or whether this happens in real-life news reports, it seems like Day 9 was indeed meant to be a Thursday because Coop isn't at work on what I'm taking to be Day 11. It makes sense, too:

Monday - Coop arrives at Rancho Rosa, misses work (been gone three days, so he also missed work on Friday)
Tuesday - Coop goes to work, after having missed the "last two days of school" and gets the case files
Wednesday - Coop goes to work and hands the case files in; gets attacked by Ike on the way out
Thursday - Coop gets the day off to talk to police and see Doctor Ben (Mitchums see the news report about attack "yesterday")
Friday - Coop goes to work and Bushnell sets up the meet with the Mitchums
Saturday - Coop is off, gets conked on the head by Sonny Jim's baseball
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:23 pm

PART #/QUOTE/AIRDATE
DAY NUMBER
DATE
SOUNDTRACK

"Accident/Farewell Theme"-Angelo Badalamenti (05.07, 06.13)
"American Woman" - Muddy Magnolias/Lynch Remix (01.07)
"The Chair"-Angelo Badalamenti (09.12)
"The Fireman"-Angelo Badalamenti (08.12)
"The Flame"-Johnny Jewel (05.01)
"Green Onions"-Booker T. & The M.G.'s (07.20)
"Habit"-Uniform (05.08)
"Heartbreaking"-Angelo Badalamenti (11.24)
"Human"-Hudson Mohawke (09.20)
"I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat (05.02, 06.16, 06.19)
"I Love How You Love Me"-The Paris Sisters (05.16)
"Lark"-Au Revoir Simone (04.23)
"Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti (04.12, 07.13)
"Mississippi" -The Cactus Blossoms (03.15)
"My Prayer"-The Platters (08.18)
"No Stars"-Rebekah Del Rio (10.22)
"Piano Sonata No. 14 (Moonlight Sonata)"-Ludwig van Beethoven/Lynch Remix (08.02)
"Red River Dreams"-Harry Dean Stanton
"Saturday"-Chromatics (12.01)
"Shadow" -Chromatics (02.16)
"She's Gone Away"-'The' Nine Inch Nails (08.04)
"Sleepwalk"-Santo & Johnny (07.23)
"Slow 30's Room/VII. Interior"-David Lynch & Dean Hurley (08.10)
"Snake Eyes"-Trouble (05.22)
"Tabloid"-Uniform (05.13)
"Take Five"-Dave Brubeck (04.16)
"Tarifa"-Sharon Van Ette (06.24)
"Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima"-Warsaw National Philharmonic (08.06)
"A Violent Yet Flammable World"-Au Revoir Simone (09.20)
"Viva Las Vegas"-Shawn Colvin (11.18)
"Windswept"-Johnny Jewel (05.26, 06.01, 06.07)


Part 1: My log has a message for you. (5/21)
Flashback
01.01 "Hello, Agent Cooper. I'll see you again in 25 years. Meanwhile."
Day 1
01.02 Giant tells Cooper to listen to the sounds, remember "430" and Richard and Linda.
01.03 Jacoby receives shovel delivery.
01.04 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey brings coffee, security won't allow her to go up.
Day 2
01.05 Ben & Jerry meet at Great Northern, Beverly is new secretary.
01.06 Insurance salesman attempts to find Sheriff Truman through Lucy.
01.07 Evil Cooper goes to cabin in woods "American Woman" - Muddy Magnolias/Lynch Remix, Evil Cooper meets with Otis and Beula, Ray and Darya leave with Evil Coop.
01.08 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey returns, security guard missing, Sam & Tracey die via a creature in the box.
Day 3
01.09 Margerie smells odor from neighbor's apartment, calls police.
01.10 Police discover Ruth in apartment.
01.11 Hank calls Harvey.
01.12 Log Lady calls Hawk "My log has a message for you" -Log Lady.
Day 4 Saturday according to Hastings interrogation
01.13 Constance discovers Hastings' prints match prints at crime scene.
01.14 Hastings is arrested.
01.15 Hawk opens Laura's old police files.
01.16 Hastings interrogated by Dave.
01.17 Hastings placed in jail.
01.18 Hastings home and car is searched, find piece of flesh in trunk
01.19 Giant, phonograph. [NOT INCLUDED IN TWO PARTER]

Part 2: The stars turn and a time presents itself. (5/21)
Day 4 Continues
02.01 Phyllis visits Hastings in jail.
02.02 Phyllis tells George "He knows."
02.03 Disembodied head floats from cell next to Hastings.
02.04 Evil Cooper shoots Phyllis.
02.05 Vegas: Duncan gives Roger money to pay "her" for the job, warns Roger about "him".
02.06 Railroad crossing flashes.
02.07 Evil Cooper makes plans in diner with Ray, Darya and Jack, Evil Cooper wants information from Hastings secretary via Ray.
02.08 Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove, receives call from Log Lady. "The stars turn and a time presents itself" -Log Lady
Day 5
02.09 Cooper in Red Room with One-armed Man, Laura removes her face, whispers to Copper and gets sucked out of room, Cooper meets The Evolution of the Arm.
02.10 Evil Cooper kills Jack at storage center.
02.11 Evil Cooper, at motel, catches Darya lying about phone call, shows her playing card and kills her.
02.12 Evil Cooper contacts Jefferies, downloads prison plans, Evil Cooper goes next door, tells Chantal (Hutch's wife) to clean up the other room, fingers her.
02.13 Cooper is told by EotA to "go now", Leland tells Cooper to "Find Laura", Cooper from Red Room sees Evil Cooper driving Day 7?, EotA's doppelgänger, Cooper falls thru floor.
02.14 Cooper visits the box in NYC. Day 2
02.15 Sarah watches TV.
02.16 The Roadhouse with James, Shelly, Red & Jean-Michel Renault, James has been in an accident, Shelly doesn't like her daughter Becky with Steven, she'll flirts with Red "Shadow" -Chromatics.

Part 3: Call for help. (5/21 & 5/28)
Day 6 September 22nd according to arrest report
03.01 Cooper in purple room. The 1st according to American Girl's watch.
03.02 Evil Cooper gets in accident.
03.03 Dougie and Jade in bed, Dougie's arm in numb, Dougie wearing ring, Jade showers.
03.04 Evil Coop vomits.
03.05 Dougie goes to red room, turns into gold bead, One-armed man puts ring on table.
03.06 Cooper switches with Dougie.
03.07 Jade drives Dougie-Coop, hitmen miss Dougie-Coop when he ducks to get Great Northern key.
03.08 Boy watches from window, Drugged out mother yells "119". Repeats on Day 8
03.09 Police find Evil-Coop and get sick from smell.
03.10 Hawk, Andy & Lucy go thru files, "Is it the bunny?".
03.11 Jacoby paints shovels.
03.12 Jade drops off Dougie at Silver Mustang. "Call for help" -Cooper
03.13 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
03.14 FBI meeting, Gordon, Albert and Tammy learn Cooper is in South Dakota.
03.15 The Roadhouse "Mississippi" -The Cactus Blossoms.

Part 4: ...brings back some memories. (5/21 & 5/28)
Day 6 Continues
04.01 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
04.02 Bill Shaker sees Dougie-Coop in casino.
04.03 Casino manager pays off Dougie-Coop, provides limo home.
04.04 Limo driver finds Dougie-Coop's home.
04.05 Janey-E yells at Dougie-Coop, counts money.
04.06 Cole meets with Denise.
04.07 Lucy speaks with Truman on his cell phone about thermostat, freaks out.
04.08 Maggie tells Frank about overdose.
04.09 Frank discusses Chinese designer drug and surveillance cameras with Bobby.
04.10 Andy explains cell phones to Lucy.
04.11 Hawk updates Frank, Chad bad mouths log lady.
04.12 Bobby sees Laura's picture. "…brings back some memories" -Bobby Briggs "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti, Bobby explains Cooper was the last one to see Major Briggs alive before he died in fire.
04.13 Wally Brando arrives.
Day 7
04.14 One-armed Man tells Dougie-Coop he was tricked.
04.15 Janey-E helps Dougie-Coop pee, get dressed.
04.16 Dougie-Coop has breakfast at home "Take Five"-Dave Brubeck.
04.17 South Dakota police files gets blocked.
04.18 Tammy gets car sick, Albert and Gordon discuss Mt. Rushmore.
04.19 Gordon learns contents of Evil-Coop's trunk: cocaine, machine gun, dog leg.
04.20 Cole, Albert & Tammy interview Evil-Coop, Albert says he's been working with Jeffries.
04.21 Gordon wants to hear about Evil-Coop's private phone call when he has it.
04.22 Gordon asks Tammy to leave because she's wearing a wire, Albert tells Gordon he authorized Jeffries to give Cooper info about man in Colombia, Gordon asks Albert to find "her".
04.23 The Roadhouse "Lark"-Au Revoir Simone.

Part 5: Case files. (6/4)
Day 7 Restarts
05.01 Vegas "The Flame"-Johnny Jewel, Guys still surveilling house.
05.02 Lorraine texts Buenos Aires "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
05.03 Autopsy of body, find Dougie's wedding ring in stomach.
05.04 Evil Cooper sees Bob in jail cell mirror.
05.05 Mike interviews Steven.
05.06 Frank talks to Harry, Doris visits Frank and argue about leaking pipe.
05.07 Dougie-Coop cries when he sees Sonny Jim in back of car "Accident/Farewell Theme"-Angelo Badalamenti.
05.08 Two cars drive by Dougie's abandoned car "Habit"-Uniform.
05.09 Janey-E drops off Dougie-Coop at work, he mimics statue, follows coffee up to office, Darren hits on girl, Frank enjoys green tea, Dougie-Coop calls Tony a liar.
05.10 Dougie-Coop receives homework from Mullins "Case files" -Cooper.
05.11 Girl let's Dougie-Coop use ladie's room.
05.12 Manager gets fired (and roughed up) by Bradley and Rodney Mitchum, replace him with Warrick.
05.13 Boy wanders across street to Dougie's car, thieves show up to steal Dougie's car and it blows up "Tabloid"-Uniform, druggie mom wakes up.
05.14 Car washer finds Great Northern key in Jade's Jeep, Jade mails back key.
05.15 Becky drops off basket to a Toad, Shelly loans Becky money.
05.16 Steve drives to back of RR Diner, Becky and Steven snort coke, Becky high as they drive "I Love How You Love Me"-The Paris Sisters.
05.17 Dougie-Coop rides elevator down backwards.
05.18 Dougie-Coop gazes at statue.
05.19 Hawk and Andy go thru files.
05.20 Jacoby/Dr. Amp does show, sells shovels; Jerry and Nadine watch.
05.21 Colonel Davis sends Cindy to investigate Garland's prints in Buckhorn.
05.22 The Roadhouse "Snake Eyes"-Trouble, Richard makes payment to Chad, chokes Charlotte.
05.23 Tammy researches Coops prints.
05.24 Evil Cooper mentions Mr. Stawberry to Warden Murphy before placing his one phone call, alarms sound.
05.25 In Buenos Aires something happens to something.
05.26 Dougie-Coop stands at statue, police ask him to leave "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.

Part 6: Don't die. (6/11)
Day 7 Continues
06.01 Dougie-Coop still in front of statue with police "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
06.02 Dougie-Coop gets taken home by police.
06.03 Janey-E and Dougie-Coop eat.
06.04 Dougie-Coop and Sonny Jim use the Clapper.
06.05 Janey-E sees picture of Dougie-Coop and Jade, Janey-E sets up appointment to make payment in park.
06.06 Stoplight.
06.07 One armed man warns Dougie-Coop "Don't die" -Phillip Gerard , Dougie-Coop doodles on case files "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
06.08 Albert complains about rain, meets with Diane at Max Von's Bar.
Day 8
06.09 Red meets with Richard discusses Sparkle, liver issues, flips coin.
06.10 Richard drives off in truck.
06.11 Bill drives Carl into Twin Peaks from Fat Trout, Mickey rides along and mentions Linda.
06.12 Miriam eats pie at RR Diner.
06.13 Richard driving, Carl sits for on bench watches boy and his mother, Richard hits kid, Miriam witnesses, Carl consoles "Accident/Farewell Theme"-Angelo Badalamenti utility pole.
06.14 Duncan receives red square on computer screen, pulls envelope out of safe.
06.15 Coroner shows up to wreckage of Dougie's car, drugged out mother yells "119" Repeat of Day 6, find license plate on roof.
06.16 Ike at motel, rolls dice and receives pictures of Tammy and Dougie "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.17 Dougie-Coop goes to work, sits with Mullins who understands his doodles, looks at boxing poster.
06.18 Janey-E pays off toughs Jimmy and Tommy in park.
06.19 Ike kills Lorraine "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.20 Richard cleans blood off truck.
06.21 Hawk finds missing diary pages in men's room of police station.
06.22 Doris complains to Frank that her father's car not fixed.
06.23 Maggie and Chad discuss Frank and Doris' son's suicide.
06.24 The Roadhouse "Tarifa"-Sharon Van Etten.

Part 7: There's a body all right. (6/18)
Day 8 Continues The 10th according to Andy's watch.
07.01 Jerry calls Ben from the woods, he's lost his car.
07.02 Hawk and Frank go over diary pages.
07.03 Harry updates Frank on his health over phone.
07.04 Andy investigates man about truck and hit and run, sets up appointment to meet later.
07.05 Frank Skypes Doc Hayward, Coop visited comatose Audrey in hospital.
07.06 Cindy Knox visits Buckhorn "There’s a body all right" -Detective Dave Macklay, informs Col. Davis that it is not just prints but a body, figure walks down hall.
07.07 Gordon whistles in his office, Albert asks him to talk with Diane.
07.08 Gordon and Albert visit Diane at home.
07.09 On plane: Tammy shows backward print to Gordon and Albert, Gordon explains spiritual finger, Albert shows Tammy photo of Evil Coop in Rio.
07.10 Diane meets with Evil Coop in prison.
07.11 Diane tells Gordon it isn't Cooper.
07.12 Evil Coop asks guard to see Warden Murphy, mentions Strawberry.
07.13 Andy waits to meet man but he doesn't show "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti.
07.14 Warden Murphy meets with Evil Coop who mentions dog leg, Mr. Strawberry and Joe McCloskey, Evil Coop wants himself and Ray released.
07.15 Police investigate Dougie Coop and Janey-E about his car.
07.16 Ike attempts to shoot Dougie Coop, The EotA appears and Coop fends off Ike.
07.17 Witnesses are interviewed.
07.18 Ben and Beverly hear humming in Great Northern.
07.19 Beverly and Tom argue.
07.20 The Roadhouse gets swept up "Green Onions"-Booker T. & The M.G.'s.
07.21 Jean-Michel gets phone call about underage prostitution.
07.22 Evil Coop and Ray are released from prison.
07.23 RR Diner "Sleepwalk"-Santo & Johnny.

Part 8: Gotta light? (6/25)
Day 8 Continues
08.01 Ray drives while Evil Coop pins tracking number on a truck, Ray wants money for his info.
08.02 Ray pees, Evil Coop pulls gun on Ray, Ray shoots Evil Coop, Woodsmen rub Evil Coop's guts on his face "Piano Sonata No. 14 (Moonlight Sonata)"-Ludwig van Beethoven/Lynch Remix, Bob is seen on his stomach, Ray drives off toward 'The Farm'.
08.03 Ray calls Philip.
08.04 The Roadhouse "She's Gone Away"-'The' Nine Inch Nails.
08.05 Evil Coop sits up.
Flashback July 16, 1945 White Sands, NM - 5:29 AM
08.06 Atom bomb detonated "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima"-Warsaw National Philharmonic.
08.07 Convenience store.
08.08 Mother vomits up Bob.
08.09 Explosion, blood cells, purple ocean, mountain island with building on peak.
08.10 Black and White Room: Señorita Dido listens to Victrola "Slow 30's Room/VII. Interior"-David Lynch & Dean Hurley, The Giant turns off alarm.
08.11 The Giant walks to theater.
08.12 The Giant sees bomb, convenience store and Bob on movie screen, he levitates "The Fireman"-Angelo Badalamenti, Señorita Dido holds gold Laura orb that comes out of The Giant's head, she releases orb into tube and onto image of Earth on movie screen.
Flashback August 5, 1956 New Mexico Desert
08.13 Locust-frog hatches.
08.14 Boy walks girl home, she finds penny.
08.15 Woodsman floats down to desert.
08.16 Couple drive down road, stopped by evil hobos, "Gotta light?"-The Woodsman, couple speeds off.
08.17 Boy kisses girl, she runs inside house.
08.18 Woodsman at KPJK radio station "My Prayer"-The Platters, mechanic listens to radio, waitress listens at Pop's Diner, girl listens on bed, Woodsman kills receptionist and squeezes head of disc jockey, stops song and broadcasts "This is the water. And this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within." Mechanic and waitress collapse, locust-frog crawls towards girls house, girl collapses on bed, locust-frog crawls into her mouth, Woodsman kills disc jockey, Woodsman walks off into desert, horse whinnies.
08.19 Girls sleeps on bed.

Part 9: This is the chair. (7/9)
Day 9 September 29th according to Truman and Hastings
09.01 Evil-Coop walks up to The Farm
09.02 On the plane, Gordon receives call from Colonel to divert to Buckhorn
09.03 Evil-Coop meets Hutch and Chantal
09.04 Gordon informs Diane and pilot going to Buckhorn, Warden Murphy calls Gordon to let him know of Cooper's escape.
09.05 Evil-Coop sends coded text, calls Duncan asking if it's done-better be done next time he calls, Duncan asks Roger to come into his office
09.06 Evil-Coop tells Hutch to kill Warden Murphy, Chantel kisses Evil-Coop goodbye before he drives off, Hutch shoots phone.
09.07 Las Vegas Police Department: The Fuscos interview Bushnell, Bushnell explains Dougie's earlier car accident then tells Dougie they will work together tomorrow, police discuss no info on Dougie before 1997 and cost of taillight, get Dougie's prints off coffee cup, palm prints of Ike came off gun. Dougie-Coop stares at flag, red heels and outlet.
09.08 The Fuscos inspect new taillight
09.09 Ike leaves message that he failed mission, police gather in motel parking lot, Ike arrested in hallway.
09.10 Andy and Lucy argue about what color chair to buy.
09.11 Johnny Horne runs into wall.
09.12 Bobby, Truman and Hawk interview Betty about Garland, Garland had told Betty they would come one day, Betty gives them cylinder hidden in secret compartment of chair "The Chair"-Angelo Badalamenti "This is the chair."-Betty Briggs
09.13 Buckhorn morgue: Diane smokes and receives Evil-Coop's coded text, Detective Macklay tells Gordon & Co. about Hastings' blog, coroner shows them Dougie's ring.
09.14 Jerry fights with his foot in the woods.
09.15 Lucy eats lunch at her desk, Chad eats lunch in conference room, Truman tells him to go to lunchroom, Truman doesn't know how to open capsule.
09.16 Bobby throws capsule at ground, it emits tone, throws again and it opens, note inside says to go to Jack Rabbits Palace on 10/1 and 10/2.
09.17 Diane smokes, joined by Gordon and Tammy.
09.18 Tammy interviews Hastings, Hastings posted about different dimension, Major was hibernating and asked for coordinates, Hastings I.D.'s picture of Major Briggs, Major floated up and said "Cooper, Cooper" before his head disappeared.
09.19 Ben and Beverly hear humming in Great Northern, Ben refuses Beverley's advances.
09.20 Roadhouse: Chloe meets Ella, Chloe mentions a zebra, Ella has job loss and an armpit rash and a new job "Human"-Hudson Mohawke, Ella mentions a penguin "A Violent Yet Flammable World"-Au Revoir Simone.

Part 10: Laura is the one. (7/16)
Day 9 Continues Wednesday according to weather report
10.01 Richard attacks Miriam, sets her trailer to explode, Richard calls Chad to intercept letter from her to sheriff
10.02 Carl sings "Red River Dreams"-Harry Dean Stanton, coffee mug tossed through window at Fat Trout.
10.03 Steve attacks Becky.
10.04 Candie swats Rodney Mitchum with remote
10.05 Janey-E checks out Dougie-Coop's figure at doctor appointment.
10.06 Candie cries, the Mitchums see television report on Ike arrest and Dougie.
10.07 Janey-E asks Dougie-Coop if he finds her attractive while he eats cake.
10.08 Janey-E and Dougie-Coop have sex, Sonny Jim hears her scream.
10.09 Dr. Amp does show, Nadine watches, automatic drapes open and close at Run Silent, Run Drapes, shovel in store window.
Day 10
10.10 Janey-E shows appreciation to Dougie-E about "last night".
Day ?
10.11 Jerry in the woods.
Day 9 Restarts
10.12 Chad intercepts mail from Lucy.
10.13 Richard receives text from Chad that he got letter.
10.14 Johnny listens to talking bear, Richard attacks and robs Sylvia (grandmother).
10.15 Roger informs Duncan they caught Ike, Duncan tells Anthony to go to Mitchum brothers and frame Dougie.
10.16 Albert and Constance have Dinner.
10.17 The Mitchums see Anthony on security camera and send Candie to get him, Anthony frames Dougie.
10.18 The Mitchums discuss setting up meeting with Dougie.
10.19 Gordon draws, opens door for Albert but sees Laura, Albert tells Gordon about Diane's texts about Hastings, Tammy shows picture of Evil Coop at glass box in NYC.
10.20 Sylvia tells Benjamin about Richard attack and threatens to call her lawyer, Ben asks Beverley if she wants to have dinner.
10.21 Log Lady calls Hawk "Laura is the one" -Log Lady.
10.22 Roadhouse: "No Stars"-Rebekah Del Rio.

Part 11: There's fire where you are going. (7/23)
Day 10
11.01 Boys playing ball and find a bloodied Miriam crawling out of woods.
11.02 Becky on phone with no car, screams.
11.03 Shelly gets call from Becky to borrow car.
11.04 Becky gets gun.
11.05 Shelly drives up, Becky takes car, Shelly jumps on hood, falls off.
11.06 Shelly asks Carl for ride to RR, Carl whistles for bus.
11.07 Shelly and Carl ride into town, Shelly calls Norma. Carl radios Maggie to get ahold of Bobby.
11.08 Becky arrives at apartment building, shoots door, Steven and Gersten Hayward hide in stairwell.
11.09 Maggie takes inbound phone calls.
11.10 Gordon, Albert, Tammy, Diane, Det. Macklay and Hastings arrive at abandoned building (2240 Sycamore), see Woodsman behind building, Gordon sees portal and vision of Woodsmen on stairs, find Ruth's body, Woodsman approaches car and splits open Hastings head.
11.11 Bobby, Shelly and Becky talk at RR, Red and Shelly kiss outside, bullet shot thru window, Bobby finds a boy in minivan with gun, horn honks, Deputy arrives from Big Ed's Gas Farm, honking woman screams while girl passenger vomits.
Day 9 (still 29th according to Truman)
11.12 Truman and Hawk discuss map, fire and corn, Log Lady calls Hawk "There's fire where you are going."- Log Lady, Deputy Jesse asks Truman if he wants to see his new car.
Day 10
11.13 Gordon's hand shakes, Albert shows picture of Ruth's arm with coordinates, Diane memorizes coordinates, Tammy and Macklay join them with donuts and coffee, Diane says she saw a Woodsman getting out of the car.
11.14 Bushnell does push-ups at his desk, Mitchum brothers case was not arson, Mitchums want to meet Dougie at 5:30, $30,000,000 check.
11.15 Mitchums eat breakfast in afternoon, Bradley had dream about Dougie.
11.16 Dougie-Coop sees One-Armed Man in coffee shop.
11.17 Dougie-Coop carries box, Bushnell gives him check, loads him in limo, driver recognizes him.
11.18 Limo drives down the Strip "Viva Las Vegas"-Shawn Colvin
11.19 Mitchums wait in desert.
11.20 Limo driving in desert.
11.21 Mitchums discuss Bradley's dream, healed cut on Rodney's face.
11.22 Limo driving in desert.
11.23 Mitchums waiting while Limo pulls up, Dougie-Coop has box, Bradley dreamed about pie in box and can't kill Dougie-Coop, find check.
11.24 Mitchums and Dougie-Coop have Dinner and drinks, Dougie-Coop listens to piano "Heartbreaking"-Angelo Badalamenti, homeless woman thanks Mr. Jackpots, Candie serves Mitchums and Dougie-Coop cherry pie.
11.25 Piano player plays on.

Part 12: Let's rock. (7/30)
Day 10?
12.01 Gordon and Albert recruit Tammy into Blue Rose and deputize Diane "Let's Rock" -Diane.
12.02 Jerry comes out of the woods.
12.03 Sarah buys liquor and cigarettes and sees jerky, warns cashier and leaves.
12.04 Carl gives Kriscol fifty dollars
12.05 Dougie-Coop and Sonny Jim play catch.
12.06 Hawk visits Sarah, hears noise in kitchen.
12.07 Miriam in hospital.
12.08 Diane texts with Evil Coop.
12.09 Truman tells Ben that Richard killed the boy, Ben gives Truman Cooper's hotel key for Harry, Ben instructs Beverley to pay for Miriam's medical expenses.
12.10 Gordon tells story to a French woman, Albert interrupts and informs him about Diane's text with Evil-Coop.
12.11 Hutch and Chantal kill the warden, head to Wendy's.
12.12 Dr. Amp does show, Nadine listens.
12.13 Audrey argues with Charlie, wants to look for Billy at Roadhouse who has been missing for two days, they have a contract Audrey wants out of with the help of Paul, Chuck stole Billy's truck lawyer week, Charlie calls Tina who was the last one to see Billy according to Chuck, Tina gives Charlie bad news, Charlie does not tell Audrey news.
12.14 Diane enters coordinates from arm that belong to Twin Peaks.
12.15 At the Roadhouse: Abbie asks Natalie where Angela is, Natalie says probably with Clark, Abbie saw Clark with Mary, Trick got runoff road on way over.
12.16 Roadhouse: "Saturday"-Chromatics.

Part 13: What story is that, Charlie? (8/6)
Part 14: We are like the dreamer. (8/13)
Part 15: There's some fear in letting go. (8/20)
Part 16: No knock, no doorbell. (8/27)
Part 17: (9/3)
Part 18: (9/3)

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White City Cinema's timeline...
https://whitecitycinema.com/2017/07/14/ ... -timeline/.

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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:04 pm

Thanks, Hockey Mask!

I would definitely argue that the scene with Coop and Sonny Jim has to take place on Day 11. On day 10, he went to work first thing in the morning and stayed out almost certainly past dark with the Mitchums, so when would he have been able to "play catch?"

Below is my revised chronological Day 10-11.

I do wonder about the business in Buckhorn. Noting Diane's shirt, when she looks up the coordinates, she's wearing the green shirt she had on at the Buckhorn police department. When she's deputized, and when she sends the text, she's changed into a red shirt. There are two pretty much equally likely possibilities here as I see it: (1) it's all on Day 10 and she looked up the coordinates right when they got back to the hotel from the police department, before the bar opened, and then changed into the red shirt later for a night out; or (2) the scene in the green shirt takes place on Day 10 and the scenes in the red shirt take place on Day 11. Either way the scenes are out of chronological order.

For now, it seems more likely that it all happened on Day 10 because 10/1 is poised to be pretty important. It's possible that nothing much will happen in Buckhorn on Day 11--Cole just initiates Tammy into Blue Rose and then hangs out with his lady friend--but I guess we'll see.

Anyway, here's my rough take on the chronology of Day 10-11 so far:

DAY 10 (Sept 30)
10.10 Janey-E shows appreciation to Dougie-E about "last night".
10.11 Jerry in the woods.
09.10 Andy and Lucy argue about what color chair to buy.
10.01 Richard attacks Miriam, sets her trailer to explode, Richard calls Chad to intercept letter from her to sheriff.
10.02 Carl sings "Red River Dreams," coffee mug tossed through window at Fat Trout.
10.03 Steve attacks Becky.
11.14 Bushnell does push-ups at his desk, Mitchum brothers case was not arson, Mitchums want to meet Dougie at 5:30, $30,000,000 check.
12.02 Jerry comes out of the woods.
12.03 Sarah buys liquor and cigarettes and sees jerky, warns cashier and leaves.
12.04 Carl gives Kriscol fifty dollars
11.15 Mitchums eat breakfast in afternoon, Bradley had dream about Dougie.
10.12 Chad intercepts mail from Lucy.
10.13 Richard receives text from Chad that he got letter.
10.14 Johnny listens to talking bear, Richard attacks and robs Sylvia (grandmother).
11.01 Boys playing ball and find a bloodied Miriam crawling out of woods.
11.02 Becky on phone with no car, screams.
11.03 Shelly gets call from Becky to borrow car.
11.04 Becky gets gun.
11.05 Shelly drives up, Becky takes car, Shelly jumps on hood, falls off.
11.06 Shelly asks Carl for ride to RR, Carl whistles for bus.
11.07 Shelly and Carl ride into town, Shelly calls Norma. Carl radios Maggie to get ahold of Bobby.
11.08 Becky arrives at apartment building, shoots door, Steven and Gersten Hayward hide in stairwell.
11.09 Maggie takes inbound phone calls.
11.10 Gordon, Albert, Tammy, Diane, Det. Macklay and Hastings arrive at abandoned building (2240 Sycamore), see Woodsman behind building, Gordon sees portal and vision of Woodsmen on stairs, find Ruth's body, Woodsman approaches car and splits open Hastings head.
12.06 Hawk visits Sarah, hears noise in kitchen.
12.07 Miriam in hospital.
11.16 Dougie-Coop sees One-Armed Man in coffee shop.
11.17 Dougie-Coop carries box, Bushnell gives him check, loads him in limo, driver recognizes him.
11.18 Limo drives down the Strip to "Viva Las Vegas."
11.19 Mitchums wait in desert.
11.20 Limo driving in desert.
11.21 Mitchums discuss Bradley's dream, healed cut on Rodney's face.
11.22 Limo driving in desert.
11.23 Mitchums waiting while Limo pulls up, Dougie-Coop has box, Bradley dreamed about pie in box and can't kill Dougie-Coop, find check.
11.13 Gordon's hand shakes, Albert shows picture of Ruth's arm with coordinates, Diane memorizes coordinates, Tammy and Macklay join them with donuts and coffee, Diane says she saw a Woodsman getting out of the car.
11.24 Mitchums and Dougie-Coop have Dinner and drinks, Dougie-Coop listens to piano, homeless woman thanks Mr. Jackpots, Candie serves Mitchums and Dougie-Coop cherry pie.
11.24 Piano player plays on.
12.14 Diane enters coordinates from arm that belong to Twin Peaks.
11.11 Bobby, Shelly and Becky talk at RR, Red and Shelly kiss outside, bullet shot thru window, Bobby finds a boy in minivan with gun, horn honks, Deputy arrives from Big Ed's Gas Farm, honking woman screams while girl passenger vomits.
12.01 Gordon and Albert recruit Tammy into Blue Rose and deputize Diane.
10.20 Sylvia tells Benjamin about Richard attack and threatens to call her lawyer, Ben asks Beverley if she wants to have dinner.
12.08 Diane texts with someone (Evil Coop?).
12.11 Hutch and Chantal kill the warden, head to Wendy's.
12.12 Dr. Amp does show, Nadine listens.
12.09 Truman tells Ben that Richard killed the boy, Ben gives Truman Cooper's hotel key for Harry, Ben instructs Beverley to pay for Miriam's medical expenses.
10.21 Log Lady calls Hawk ("Laura is the one").
10.22 Roadhouse: "No Stars"-Rebekah Del Rio.
12.10 Gordon tells story to a French woman, Albert interrupts and informs him about Diane's text (with Evil-Coop?).
12.13 Audrey argues with Charlie, wants to look for Billy at Roadhouse who has been missing for two days, they have a contract Audrey wants out of with the help of Paul, Chuck stole Billy's truck last week, Charlie calls Tina who was the last one to see Billy according to Chuck, Tina gives Charlie bad news, Charlie does not tell Audrey news.
12.15 At the Roadhouse: Abbie asks Natalie where Angela is, Natalie says probably with Clark, Abbie saw Clark with Mary, Trick got runoff road on way over.


DAY 11 (Oct 1)
12.05 Dougie-Coop and Sonny Jim play catch.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:18 am

The fact that Ben doesn't tell Frank Truman that Richard has attacked Sylvia may indicate that this scene is happening the 29/9 too... maybe! And the clothes of Ben and Beverly are the same than in their scene in Part 9.

With the Dr Amp's scene, the clothes of Sonny Jim, the story of Billy (mentioned in Part 7), the Chromatics, this episode may really have a weird timeline! And Chantal and Hutch: maybe they waited 3 days to do the job asked by Mister C., but that's weird too. Maybe their scene happens the 28 or the 29 too.

Here is my attempt on the chronology with Part 12: http://tp3theories.canalblog.com/archives/2017/07/18/35486398.html
And the potential clues in Part 12: http://tp3theories.canalblog.com/archives/2017/07/31/35521475.html
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby LostInTheMovies » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:38 am

I've been trying to figure out the somewhat maddening chronology of The Return especially since it became clear that multiple nights had passed since they were supposed to go to Jack Rabbit's. That said, I'm surprised to see people are committed to the idea that the days are out of sync - or have started to fall out of sync! I wonder if this is by design for some confusing reason (I've heard arguments about alternate realities but it feels way too schematic to be Lynch and too random to be Frost). Or if it's simply a result of rearranging scenes to fit an episodic structure after the fact. Or both.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:17 am

LostInTheMovies wrote:I've been trying to figure out the somewhat maddening chronology of The Return especially since it became clear that multiple nights had passed since they were supposed to go to Jack Rabbit's. That said, I'm surprised to see people are committed to the idea that the days are out of sync - or have started to fall out of sync! I wonder if this is by design for some confusing reason (I've heard arguments about alternate realities but it feels way too schematic to be Lynch and too random to be Frost). Or if it's simply a result of rearranging scenes to fit an episodic structure after the fact. Or both.


Maybe it's the evolution of David Lynch towards a more "cerebral" cinema - I mean, going more inside the brain of his characters since FWWM, and then in Lost Highway, MD, IE... - that makes us wonder if each scene is a dream, a reminiscence, a flash-forward... The original seasons of TP weren't like that, nor Eraserhead, Elephant Man, Dune and Blue Velvet. They were surrealists too but in a more linear way, in terms of narration.

Here in "The Return", we travel through time and space, and it feels foggy probably on purpose. I think that the scenes in Twin Peaks are particularly out of sync because Cooper is absent from the town, whereas the other scenes (Buckhorn, Las Vegas...) are more easy to follow because we follow the story of Cooper(s) in them.

The sentences of the One-Armed-Man are like a program. "Is it future or is it past", and "Something is wrong". In Twin Peaks, the non-chronological editing of the scenes makes us feel that "something is wrong". It's like we are missing important facts, that something is happening, but we can't know what because we don't see events in the right order.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:57 pm

LostInTheMovies wrote:I've been trying to figure out the somewhat maddening chronology of The Return especially since it became clear that multiple nights had passed since they were supposed to go to Jack Rabbit's. That said, I'm surprised to see people are committed to the idea that the days are out of sync - or have started to fall out of sync! I wonder if this is by design for some confusing reason (I've heard arguments about alternate realities but it feels way too schematic to be Lynch and too random to be Frost). Or if it's simply a result of rearranging scenes to fit an episodic structure after the fact. Or both.


I think things continue to move in a broadly linear manner, but that Lynch is grouping scenes thematically and tonally for this section of the narrative. It's chronological on a macro level, but non-linear on a micro level.

Since the events of Part 8, very little story time has gone by--just two days. I think what Lynch and Dunham were faced with was the task of getting a whole lot of characters where they needed to be for 10/1, when Bobby, Hawk, and Frank arrive at Jack Rabbit's Palace, and they decided that strict chronology, at this point in the overall narrative, didn't work as well as grouping different threads of the narrative together in chunks.

Between Parts 9-12, I'm fairly certain that everything we've seen has taken place on either 9/29 or 9/30, except for the very short scene of Coop getting hit by the baseball, which I believe is on the morning of 10/1.

Pick any particular plot thread (Vegas, Buckhorn, the hit and run, the Twin Peaks investigation of Coop, Becky's crisis, Sarah's meltdown, etc.) and that story is being told in a very linear fashion. The momentum moves ever forward. It's just in the intercutting between these plot threads that things get less linear. This creates the opportunity to group scenes together that would otherwise have been hours apart (Becky's rampage and the scene at the RR, for example), and to find nice thematic/tonal/rhythmic juxtapositions.

My guess is that once we start covering the events leading directly up to Jack Rabbit's Palace, things will get more linear because I have a suspicion that every thread will in some way be affected by the dates and times on Briggs's note.

In the meantime, things are gradually falling into place. I'm not sure whether we'll get there next week or not. There is the question of what COOPER has been up to. I'm wondering if we'll catch up with him and Ray before we get to the events of 10/1. It would make sense, tonally, to group a bunch of COOPER scenes together, so we'll see.

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