Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
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Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
I wanted to keep this out of the main TSHOTP thread so we didn't have to spoiler tag everything. Anyways, list direct connections or things that reminded you of the novel.
Some direct connections:
Tamara Preston
Mention of Briggs meeting Bad Coop by Bobby
The entity in the box in NYC and in FL with Dougie and Nixon are similar
Wally Brando mentioning Lewis & Clark and the first caucasians to set foot around Twin Peaks
I am wondering if the Log's message to Hawk will have anything to do with the Nez Pearce and Chief Joseph. Also the Box entity's attack reminded me of the razor wounds Lewis suffered when he was murdered, even though he suffered gun shot wounds too.
Some direct connections:
Tamara Preston
Mention of Briggs meeting Bad Coop by Bobby
The entity in the box in NYC and in FL with Dougie and Nixon are similar
Wally Brando mentioning Lewis & Clark and the first caucasians to set foot around Twin Peaks
I am wondering if the Log's message to Hawk will have anything to do with the Nez Pearce and Chief Joseph. Also the Box entity's attack reminded me of the razor wounds Lewis suffered when he was murdered, even though he suffered gun shot wounds too.
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
I was wondering if the "Cooper...Cooper...Cooper" message that Briggs got from Listening Post Alpha (also part of original series, season 1?) was a warning that there would actually be 3 Coopers--Cooper, COOPER, and Dougie.
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
But he's still credited as "Dr. Lawrence Jacoby"! Is it possible his psychiatry license was revoked but he'a still technically an MD?mtwentz wrote:Jacoby not being a doctor anymore.
I wonder how Mark's reveal of Frank Truman, hints at Briggs's fate, etc. in the book meshed with the NDA. I guess tie-in materials fall into the same santion-free zone as promos?
Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
Hmmm, that could be I suppose. And the show does not actually say he's not a doctor or psychiatrist anymore, but one might infer that given his living conditions and how he seems to be spending his time.Mr. Reindeer wrote:But he's still credited as "Dr. Lawrence Jacoby"! Is it possible his psychiatry license was revoked but he'a still technically an MD?mtwentz wrote:Jacoby not being a doctor anymore.
I wonder how Mark's reveal of Frank Truman, hints at Briggs's fate, etc. in the book meshed with the NDA. I guess tie-in materials fall into the same santion-free zone as promos?
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
Been wondering that too. Thing is, the major says Cooper three times but on the paper there are more than three /COOPER/'s printed.kornishpyxee wrote:I was wondering if the "Cooper...Cooper...Cooper" message that Briggs got from Listening Post Alpha (also part of original series, season 1?) was a warning that there would actually be 3 Coopers--Cooper, COOPER, and Dougie.
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
I always thought it was a reverse time thing echoing Briggs looking for Cooper (and calling out his name) in the woods, hence a non-linear thing, which would fit well. a mirror image that comes in BEFORE the original, from "beyond".Soolsma wrote:Been wondering that too. Thing is, the major says Cooper three times but on the paper there are more than three /COOPER/'s printed.kornishpyxee wrote:I was wondering if the "Cooper...Cooper...Cooper" message that Briggs got from Listening Post Alpha (also part of original series, season 1?) was a warning that there would actually be 3 Coopers--Cooper, COOPER, and Dougie.
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
I somewhat doubt this was the intent of the creators, given how much they were making things up as they went along, but I like this idea, and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.dronerstone wrote:I always thought it was a reverse time thing echoing Briggs looking for Cooper (and calling out his name) in the woods, hence a non-linear thing, which would fit well. a mirror image that comes in BEFORE the original, from "beyond".
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
In the same vein as Coop still being credited as "Special Agent Dale Cooper" I suppose? It's curious because the credits are otherwise very careful about updating character details ("Lucy Brennan") and eliding spoilers ("??????", "Shelly")...Mr. Reindeer wrote:But he's still credited as "Dr. Lawrence Jacoby"! Is it possible his psychiatry license was revoked but he'a still technically an MD?mtwentz wrote:Jacoby not being a doctor anymore.
I wonder how Mark's reveal of Frank Truman, hints at Briggs's fate, etc. in the book meshed with the NDA. I guess tie-in materials fall into the same santion-free zone as promos?
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
Yup, right on! I guess a lot of the old show was written coincidentally and quasi made up in reverse, on the spot. Like Lynch often said, things kinda fell into place perfectly.Jasper wrote:I somewhat doubt this was the intent of the creators, given how much they were making things up as they went along, but I like this idea, and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.dronerstone wrote:I always thought it was a reverse time thing echoing Briggs looking for Cooper (and calling out his name) in the woods, hence a non-linear thing, which would fit well. a mirror image that comes in BEFORE the original, from "beyond".
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
But oddly enough, Gordon also refers to Coop by his title in-show ("Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to speak now to Special Agent Dale Cooper"). Maybe because the title is so much a part of Coop's personality/identity? Or DKL just really likes saying it?laughingpinecone wrote:In the same vein as Coop still being credited as "Special Agent Dale Cooper" I suppose? It's curious because the credits are otherwise very careful about updating character details ("Lucy Brennan") and eliding spoilers ("??????", "Shelly")...Mr. Reindeer wrote:But he's still credited as "Dr. Lawrence Jacoby"! Is it possible his psychiatry license was revoked but he'a still technically an MD?mtwentz wrote:Jacoby not being a doctor anymore.
I wonder how Mark's reveal of Frank Truman, hints at Briggs's fate, etc. in the book meshed with the NDA. I guess tie-in materials fall into the same santion-free zone as promos?
Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
Do we know for a fact Coop was terminated from the FBI? Maybe there was a hint of truth in Coop working undercover..Mr. Reindeer wrote:But oddly enough, Gordon also refers to Coop by his title in-show ("Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to speak now to Special Agent Dale Cooper"). Maybe because the title is so much a part of Coop's personality/identity? Or DKL just really likes saying it?laughingpinecone wrote:In the same vein as Coop still being credited as "Special Agent Dale Cooper" I suppose? It's curious because the credits are otherwise very careful about updating character details ("Lucy Brennan") and eliding spoilers ("??????", "Shelly")...Mr. Reindeer wrote:
But he's still credited as "Dr. Lawrence Jacoby"! Is it possible his psychiatry license was revoked but he'a still technically an MD?
I wonder how Mark's reveal of Frank Truman, hints at Briggs's fate, etc. in the book meshed with the NDA. I guess tie-in materials fall into the same santion-free zone as promos?
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
If I recall correctly, it is 7 question marks for Struycken's name -- ???????
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(sorry to be a stickler, but I'm a 7 kind of person, so I notice these things)
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Re: Connections to TSHOTP (SPOILERS)
The pertinent facts so far, to the best of my recollection:mtwentz wrote:Do we know for a fact Coop was terminated from the FBI? Maybe there was a hint of truth in Coop working undercover..Mr. Reindeer wrote:But oddly enough, Gordon also refers to Coop by his title in-show ("Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to speak now to Special Agent Dale Cooper"). Maybe because the title is so much a part of Coop's personality/identity? Or DKL just really likes saying it?laughingpinecone wrote: In the same vein as Coop still being credited as "Special Agent Dale Cooper" I suppose? It's curious because the credits are otherwise very careful about updating character details ("Lucy Brennan") and eliding spoilers ("??????", "Shelly")...
- TSHOTP clearly states he's off the active roster.
Also TSHOTP states there are classified files on him and Briggs following the end of the dossier, so he may not be as off the grid as a lot of characters think.
Doppelcoop uses a FBI login.
Gordon does not contradict him when he says the undercover thing, although Tammy later disproves some details of that claim.
(My friends and I have declared that he could count as an agent of the Lodge at the moment, and he's most certainly a very special boy, so 'special agent' checks out anyway. There, solved it)
Probably meaningful, yeah!Saturn's child wrote:If I recall correctly, it is 7 question marks for Struycken's name -- ???????
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