Agent327 wrote: take one thing at a time.
Now it's the third time I ask you to provide specifics
We will never have specifics. Never. We know about the 2M viewers, about the financial success statement, and little more. Do you have any specific to prove your claim? I thought so.
, BEYOND the usual positive corporate BS
Oh you say that it's BS. Can you provide any data?
Give me relevant numbers detailing how well The Return did on it's own merits.
This request - as I explained in the previous post - is wrong on many levels. No follow up, or reboot, can prove its own merits. Prove me that the Gilmore Girls reboot stood on its own merits. Guess what, you can't because it's a reboot and people will watch it because of the previous season(s). It's incredible that you even ask for this.
I am not calling them liars, as you're eager to straw man me into. Because the press releases referenced above by Jasper DID NOT lie about numbers. In the most charitable scenarios they put a positive spin on things.
You said that it wasn't a financial success. CEO said that it was. You call it BS. CEO is head of a traded company (that is, determining what is successful financially is important for investors). I would say yeah, you're calling them liars (and possibly criminals, esp since CBS reported the 11% increase and pointed at Twin Peaks for it in statements that have relevance on Wall Street).
That is not the same as lying. That is company talk. And they also give NO good reason for why a season 4 would be a financially sound idea.
Well, at this moment no one knows if a S4 would be a financially sound idea. It depends on what S4 is. 18 hours? 4 hours? A movie? A reboot? A spinoff?
And though you may not care about the ratings as you directly and confusingly state, they actually matter. It is not just some irrelevant piece of data that has nothing to do with financial choices, no matter how much you want to pretend that is the case.
Of course they do matter. I do not care, and Showtime does care. I never said that ratings are irrelevant; I am not crazy.
But ratings are not the ultimate God of high end tv anymore, especially due to streaming, paraphernalia, and more importantly international sales.
Look, neither of us have inside information. We don't even know why Showtime accepted S3. We don't know how much CBS made out of it, and we don't know how the ratings directly affect their earnings. The only four things we know are that we had S3, that Nevins said it was a financial success (albeit we do not know the definitions), and that CBS pointed at TP for its improved earnings. Ultimately we know that many professional reviewers loved the show for whatever it's worth (not much in my opinion, but I don't know how investors look at that). We don't know anything else. We don't even know if Lynch is thinking about S4.
To conclude, I am not even sure what is your problem with this.
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