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Panapaok wrote:The walking looks that way because it's probably done backwards..

boske wrote:

Panapaok wrote:The walking looks that way because it's probably done backwards..

That's possible. Although, from what I recall they walked rather speedily, I am not sure if one can walk backwards fast like that.

Panapaok wrote:

boske wrote:

Panapaok wrote:The walking looks that way because it's probably done backwards..

That's possible. Although, from what I recall they walked rather speedily, I am not sure if one can walk backwards fast like that.

Laura is definitely walking backwards, you can tell by her movement. Slowly of course. My guess is that Coop and Gerard are doing the same, hence the weird walking. Pretty much all of their movements are clearly done backwards, that's why I guess it's the same when they walk.

boske wrote:On the topic of golden shovels, pretty much everybody started analyzing them right away looking for some deeper meaning. But what if there isn't any? What if what we saw is what we were going to get? Fake gold from a snake oil salesman.

If it stays that way, it will be one of those clues hidden in plain sight what this season could be really about. It would have been more obvious had we had nine shovels, but then it would have been more obvious. And watching each showel painted and dried from both sides would give us eighteen parts.

This may very well be a stretch, I hope so actually. Five shovels, each thirty bucks, gives one hundred and fifty bucks, not bad. Pure genius.

N. Needleman wrote:I have never been more captivated by a sequence in there than I was when Laura came walking over in the premiere. Granted, part of that was because I literally didn't believe what I was seeing after 25+ years.

boske wrote:On the topic of golden shovels, pretty much everybody started analyzing them right away looking for some deeper meaning. But what if there isn't any? What if what we saw is what we were going to get? Fake gold from a snake oil salesman.

If it stays that way, it will be one of those clues hidden in plain sight what this season could be really about. It would have been more obvious had we had nine shovels, but then it would have been more obvious. And watching each showel painted and dried from both sides would give us eighteen parts.

This may very well be a stretch, I hope so actually. Five shovels, each thirty bucks, gives one hundred and fifty bucks, not bad. Pure genius.

Jonah wrote:I loved that scene too! And I'm fine with the scenes themselves for the most part. My issues are more with the look of the room, mainly the curtains and how bright it is. I think it affects the vibe. Just rewatching some of "The Missing Pieces" at the moment - and the difference in red rooms is really startling. It looked so much better then imo.

Jerry Horne wrote:

LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:

AgentEcho wrote:

Fair enough. I mean I can see your point. At least with something like Star Wars, I understand why people would want someone else taking the reigns from George Lucas. I'm pretty sure I'm going to find whatever Rian Johnson does with Star Wars more interesting than what Lucas did with the prequels.

But for me, Lynch is on a different level. He's a singularly unique cinematic artist, on the level of Kubrick. I haven't been very impressed by attempts by other directors to do Kubrick. I'm not sure 2010 even tried, but when a director with the chops of Steven Spielberg can't do Kubrick, probably nobody but Kubrick can do Kubrick. And it's the same with Lynch. For me, there are some good non Lynch directed episodes of the original series, but the Lynch directed stuff is on another level entirely.

I can see what you're saying. I loved what Lynch brought to the old seasons. And I would've agreed with you until the new season aired.


Just on a side note, the reason I think this season really suffers- is the lack of intimacy.

The old twin peaks was totally voyeristic, with the camera stuck up Shelleys skirt...

Damn. I missed that episode.

LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:

Jerry Horne wrote:

LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:
I can see what you're saying. I loved what Lynch brought to the old seasons. And I would've agreed with you until the new season aired.


Just on a side note, the reason I think this season really suffers- is the lack of intimacy.

The old twin peaks was totally voyeristic, with the camera stuck up Shelleys skirt...

Damn. I missed that episode.

Lol

I'm referring to an early episode with Bobby and Shelley driving, (the camera is not literally up anyone's skirt) I can remember an interview with one of them saying how Lynch was in the car with them, right at their feet filming. It's a cool low angled shot. But my point was more that the old series does everything to get you really close to characters. Where 'The Return' does everything in its power to distance the viewer from everyone. I know it's deliberate, but it crafts an experience on such a polar opposite to the original.

One is pure invitation and titlation-- the other is isolation and disgust.
Obviously I prefer the original

AgentEcho wrote:

LurkerAtTheThreshold wrote:

Jerry Horne wrote:
Damn. I missed that episode.

Lol

I'm referring to an early episode with Bobby and Shelley driving, (the camera is not literally up anyone's skirt) I can remember an interview with one of them saying how Lynch was in the car with them, right at their feet filming. It's a cool low angled shot. But my point was more that the old series does everything to get you really close to characters. Where 'The Return' does everything in its power to distance the viewer from everyone. I know it's deliberate, but it crafts an experience on such a polar opposite to the original.

One is pure invitation and titlation-- the other is isolation and disgust.
Obviously I prefer the original

Are you convinced the distance and isolation will be there for the rest of the season? If we do get close to the characters later on, would you be open to it possibly being more meaningful because of the isolation and distance that's been established early on?