Cipher wrote:ThumbsUp wrote:diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?).
Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand.
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Cipher wrote:ThumbsUp wrote:diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?).
Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand.
Cipher wrote:ThumbsUp wrote:diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?).
Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand.
Novalis wrote:Cipher wrote:ThumbsUp wrote:diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering (just now realising - garmonbozia reference?).
Garmonbozia is pain and sorrow. You're thinking of the off brand.
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ThumbsUp wrote:KnewItsPa wrote:Manwith wrote:
I found Janey-E was very superficial, materialistic, (ab)using men for her own gain. She didn't really seem to care about Dougie, or Sonny-Jim, just wanted a new car and something to sex with.
Well, to be fair, she was worried about the car because her prostitute-loving husband got it blown up
Manwith wrote: Her goodbye to Coop at the end didn't seem too superficial to me.
Manwith wrote: her anger over him missing SJ's birthday
Manwith wrote: her speechless gratitude toward the Mitchums when they got him a jungle gym
Manwith wrote: sticking by Dougie's side through thick and thin at the police station, driving him to work, etc.,
Manwith wrote: a diatribe to the gangsters about being sensitive to others' pain and suffering
Manwith wrote:KnewItsPa wrote:Manwith wrote:
Norma is positive. She takes control of her business and asserts her contract rights. She loved Ed but isn't defined by him.
Yeah. I'd go with that. She is also highly conservative in choosing 'family' over 'business'.
She didn't *really* choose family over business. Her rejection of the franchise parallels Lynch's view of art. I.E. he insists on final cut and doesn't want anyone else to direct Twin Peaks anymore. So she's Lynch's version of an ideal businessperson as well as a family person.
I also see Nadine as fairly positive- much more positive than in the original show. You could say it's a bit late for her to turn herself around- but she ended up on a positive note. And she did accomplish her dream of running a drape running business.
KnewItsPa wrote:Normas speech rejecting the business world was all about these people are my family. It might well reflect your idea of Lynches business practice, but the fact is that putting family before business comes from a womans mouth, contextualising Norma within a conservative feminine role. Hardly Catherine Martel material.
KnewItsPa wrote:male supernatural intervention or female?
Supernatural males.
- Mike seems wholly transformed into an unambiguous good-guy, able to create tulpas.
- TEOTA also appears to be Dougies guardian spirit
- Lodge Leland is passive,
- The Giant/Fireman (whatever) positive, helpful, wise.
- Philip Jeffries, helpful, surly and withdrawn.
- BOB, evil, passive.
Supernatural females.
- The Experiment/Mother/Judy cosmically monstrous,
- Sarah Palmer transformed into a monsterous demonic mad woman, entirely inhabiting the hag/witch archetype.
- Lodge Laura seemed reasonably neutral, but transformed into a glowing orb from space, alien, inhuman.
- Senorita Dido in Episode 8 neutral.
- Naido, is a youthful female victim.
Even just a cursory glance, there seems to be a serious gender divide, with the females being portrayed as negative influences and males taking a positive role. There are only two real exceptions:
- Lauras positivity - although complete lack of action or self-determination, also the golden globe imag of her is her youth, the older version of Laura is confined to telling tales to Dale in the lodge, else as Carrie is a murderer.
- BOBs negativity - although in TP:TR he is entirely subsumed into Mr.C's evilness, and turned into a comedy super villain.
Manwith wrote:
her anger over him missing SJ's birthday
Entirely consistent with spoled houswife trope. Why didn't HE look after the kid, so SHE didn't have to.
KnewItsPa wrote:male supernatural intervention or female?
Supernatural males.
- Mike seems wholly transformed into an unambiguous good-guy, able to create tulpas.
- TEOTA also appears to be Dougies guardian spirit
- Lodge Leland is passive,
- The Giant/Fireman (whatever) positive, helpful, wise.
- Philip Jeffries, helpful, surly and withdrawn.
- BOB, evil, passive.
Supernatural females.
- The Experiment/Mother/Judy cosmically monstrous,
- Sarah Palmer transformed into a monsterous demonic mad woman, entirely inhabiting the hag/witch archetype.
- Lodge Laura seemed reasonably neutral, but transformed into a glowing orb from space, alien, inhuman.
- Senorita Dido in Episode 8 neutral.
- Naido, is a youthful female victim.
Even just a cursory glance, there seems to be a serious gender divide, with the females being portrayed as negative influences and males taking a positive role. There are only two real exceptions:
- Lauras positivity - although complete lack of action or self-determination, also the golden globe imag of her is her youth, the older version of Laura is confined to telling tales to Dale in the lodge, else as Carrie is a murderer.
- BOBs negativity - although in TP:TR he is entirely subsumed into Mr.C's evilness, and turned into a comedy super villain.
sylvia_north wrote:Heather Graham is getting a film made about sexism in the movie industry
http://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/news/ ... od-sexism/
Annie, sorry you fell through the cracks.
Cipher wrote:sylvia_north wrote:Heather Graham is getting a film made about sexism in the movie industry
http://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/news/ ... od-sexism/
Annie, sorry you fell through the cracks.
Ah, well. That's good.
Also, is your avatar from Belladonna of Sadness? How appropriate for this thread. (Though I actually wound up with some weird misgivings on how that treated a few elements that I think might have come down to a male creative team in 1970s Japan; its heart is in the right place.) Unless I've misidentified the image.
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