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Your rewatch experience.

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I am currently re-re-re watching the S3 episodes.
This is the first time I am doing it in order from E1 to E10 (as of tonight). What is your rewatch experience?

I am watching the episodes with my 15yo and my 11yo kids, as they're watching S3 for the first time as they just finished S2 (they couldn't stand anything about the episodes from Laura's murderer revelation to the one before the last; I basically had to force them to watch it).
We're currently at S3E4 (I am at S3E10).

As I rewatch Season 3 I certainly observe more things that I didn't notice before. What is surprising is that I have been finding the first four episodes... fast paced. I don't really know how to explain it, but it seems to me that almost too much is happening within the span of the episodes. This is an incredible surprise to me.

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What does your 11 year old think of the sex and violence?
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douglasb wrote:What does your 11 year old think of the sex and violence?
Sex: "that's disgusting." (There isn't really much of it for now).

Violence. According to the reaction they see much worse in school or at friends' house.


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Definitely not a program for a 11 year old.
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anthoto1 wrote:Definitely not a program for a 11 year old.
Yeah, my plan is to have him grow up like Richard Horne.
I don't think that TP3 will be much consequential in his life, and I certainly won't shield him from everything as many other parents do just to see him go wild in college or become one of those that call the cops when they see a woman breastfeeding.
Heck kids play GTA at that age.


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yaxomoxay wrote:
anthoto1 wrote:Definitely not a program for a 11 year old.
Yeah, my plan is to have him grow up like Richard Horne.
I don't think that TP3 will be much consequential in his life, and I certainly won't shield him from everything as many other parents do just to see him go wild in college or become one of those that call the cops when they see a woman breastfeeding.
Heck kids play GTA at that age.


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You do exactly what you want with your life, bro. :lol:

That's still not a program for a 11 year old. Neither should GTA be played by kids this age.
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I hate when people say "oh they're too young to watch something like this" ..

Do you all see the world we live in? Especially right now ?! There is worse REAL violence on the news and television every night, Atleast in this format watching with their parents kids can start to understand that yes the world is a terrible ugly place and maybe they will be able to learn from it.

Also until you're a parent, even after that , I think it's pretty tacky to put down , judge or try to tell another parent how to raise their kids.

Personally I think it's great that these kids will be learning about lifes harsh realities through a program that shows these actions for very specific reasons, not just to glorify the actions. This way they can become teachable moments in the hands of the right parents. We all grow up and get older , and we all eventually learn the truth about this world sooner or later , I'm in the sooner is better camp for sure .
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anthoto1 wrote:
yaxomoxay wrote:
anthoto1 wrote:Definitely not a program for a 11 year old.
Yeah, my plan is to have him grow up like Richard Horne.
I don't think that TP3 will be much consequential in his life, and I certainly won't shield him from everything as many other parents do just to see him go wild in college or become one of those that call the cops when they see a woman breastfeeding.
Heck kids play GTA at that age.


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You do exactly what you want with your life, bro. :lol:

That's still not a program for a 11 year old. Neither should GTA be played by kids this age.
Lol, of course.
All joking aside, I simply think that it truly depends on the kid and how much the parent knows his/her kids. I don't think that age is the main factor. For example, my 15yo was much less ready at 11 than my 11yo. It's like day and night. Actually, I have more doubts about showing stronger shows to my 15yo than my 11yo, as the 15yo is much more impressionable and he clearly keeps the show with him for a much longer time. After watching a show/movie, my 11yo doesn't really talks about it, goes out to play with the neighbors kids and so on. Never a nightmare from a movie, never a behavioral issue at school.
My 15yo on the other hand had more issues, so we shielded him much longer.
Of course we don't believe in helicopter parenting and we spend lots of time doing activities with them (including playing designer board games for even twelve hours in a day, which is a perfect way to know each other), and we're very involved in their school.

I bet that part of the equation is my own upbringing. At 12 I had watched all the Dario Argento movies, all the Freddy/Mike/Jason movies, The Shining and so on.


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Mistertom wrote:I hate when people say "oh they're too young to watch something like this" ..

Do you all see the world we live in? Especially right now ?! There is worse REAL violence on the news and television every night, Atleast in this format watching with their parents kids can start to understand that yes the world is a terrible ugly place and maybe they will be able to learn from it.

Also until you're a parent, even after that , I think it's pretty tacky to put down , judge or try to tell another parent how to raise their kids.

Personally I think it's great that these kids will be learning about lifes harsh realities through a program that shows these actions for very specific reasons, not just to glorify the actions. This way they can become teachable moments in the hands of the right parents. We all grow up and get older , and we all eventually learn the truth about this world sooner or later , I'm in the sooner is better camp for sure .
Most 11 year old children won't make sense out of this kind of graphic and somehow psychological violence. Daria's murder, Miriam's agression etc. Should 10 year old watch porn because porn exists and sex is, overall, a great thing ? And should a parent encourage his/her kid to watch it ? That's perfectly absurd. As a 11 year old, I remembered I was quite disturbed by freaking Independance Day that nonetheless doesn't deliver the same kind of violence displayed in TP:TR. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and I wouldn't dare giving any parenting lesson as I have no child. I'm not sure Lynch and Frost designed this whole thing to be seen by pre-teenagers though.
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anthoto1 wrote:
Mistertom wrote:I hate when people say "oh they're too young to watch something like this" ..

Do you all see the world we live in? Especially right now ?! There is worse REAL violence on the news and television every night, Atleast in this format watching with their parents kids can start to understand that yes the world is a terrible ugly place and maybe they will be able to learn from it.

Also until you're a parent, even after that , I think it's pretty tacky to put down , judge or try to tell another parent how to raise their kids.

Personally I think it's great that these kids will be learning about lifes harsh realities through a program that shows these actions for very specific reasons, not just to glorify the actions. This way they can become teachable moments in the hands of the right parents. We all grow up and get older , and we all eventually learn the truth about this world sooner or later , I'm in the sooner is better camp for sure .
Most 11 year old children won't make sense out of this kind of graphic and somehow psychological violence. Daria's murder, Miriam's agression etc. Should 10 year old watch porn because porn exists and sex is, overall, a great thing ? And should a parent encourage his/her kid to watch it ? That's perfectly absurd. As a 11 year old, I remembered I was quite disturbed by freaking Independance Day that nonetheless doesn't deliver the same kind of violence displayed in TP:TR. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and I wouldn't dare giving any parenting lesson as I have no child. I'm not sure Lynch and Frost designed this whole thing to be seen by pre-teenagers though.
You have to really know the kid. If you were easy to disturb... then no TP for ya!
It is really not a matter of age.
As for porn (or shows like GoT) you have to check how explicit it is and how central it is to the theme. If it's too central, continuous, and too explicit then don't show it. On the other hand, showing that there is some action without showing the actual action can or can't be ok, depending on the kid. It also depends on how the bad guys look. In TP you really know that Mr C is despicable. You know who's good and who's not. In a porn movie, or GoT, this is not clear. So you might want to avoid those due to the difficulty in tracing a line.
There is also the opposite, total shielding. I have seen some home schoolers here in TX unable to talk about anything that is remotely controversial. Sex is bad, alcohol is bad etc. great kids by they have no clue about what happens in their own neighborhood and that, to me, is very dangerous.

Actually, TP made me want to fight violence and crime. And that's what I do every day. I hope that my kids, one day will do the same.


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To answer the very questions answered by the topic, I've rewatched almost every episodes of the new season and actually think they were all better on the second viewing. I have to say that I felt the same for every Lynch's work. It may have to deal with his sense of narration, his style. That's also why his work never gets old in my view.

A lot is happening in TP:TR. It is not, in my view, a slow paced show. Some people may think it is. After a 25 year long wait for new TP material, fans had a lot of time to build all kinds of expectations that obviously can't all be matched. In this case, it's easy to focus on what we think the show should be and not on what the show really is (a masterpiece imo). On second viewing, I personnally feel more relax and less impatient for the story to move on.
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I've made effort to re-watch each episode at least once. The first surprise was, as someone said, the pacing. With some exceptions I didn't find it as slow, for example when I rewatched Part 10 a few nights ago. THe scene with Richard robbing Sylvia didn't feel as protracted and I braced myself to get annoyed by the "Hello, Johnny how-are-you-today?" repetition but I was more focused on the drama. Even the continual cutting to show Johnny writhing on the floor, which seemed on first viewing excessive and redundant, didn't strike me as much gratuitous this 2nd time. I noticed things not discerned before like Sylvia saying "Ohhh... we can't make him mad" while Richard was away emptying the safe.

The term "Easter egg" was new to me when this season came along so I'm finding that looking for things in the 2nd and 3rd viewings yields more than a few (with the help of contributors on these boards of course). I just can't think of another show that I'd get that sort of unpuzzling/ decoding satsfaction from~
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I've rewatched all the eps, because I watch them early in the week for myself and then I watch with a friend on the weekend. I also find it better on the second viewing. Slow bits don't seem so slow, and that might be why the disturbing parts (like Richard's intro, the Sylvia scene) don't rattle me as much on the second viewing. And every time I rewatch I find myself getting more from McLachlan's performance. There's more nuance to Dale (in the first 3 eps) and Dougie's growth the more you watch it. You start to notice how he's reacting differently to different people.
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“Man is a creature that can get accustomed to anything" - Dostoyevsky

Not sure if I enjoy it because of investment, or because it's been so long since a new DL thing I'm a sponge for it.

The first viewing is the best for me, then I'm largely desensitized. Rabidly re-watched 1-7 to wear the tread of the new picture and places into my head, 8- 10 didn't give a whole lot to chew on or regurge to chew again, The more I watch, the more I skip it's so spare and easy to memorize I can just re-call the whole episode. Screwing about is fun and all but ready for the reacharound.

Also 11 is a great age for Twin Peaks. Glad I got hooked on cinema around that age. Good childrearing, yaxomoxay they'll thank you later
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