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Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby dugpa » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:52 pm

This was just posted in FB.... Update - confirmed subtitles were incorrect.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Novalis » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:04 pm

Super interesting -- haven't seen this [text in brackets] before.

I always wondered if Jeffries was identified with someone at the convenience store shindig, since he does after all confirm having been there. Maybe he was identified with the monkey behind Pierre Tremond's facemask. Whatever that entails.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby alreadygoneplaces » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:14 pm

Ok... *scratches head* :?
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Soolsma » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:32 pm

Jeffries recast? Now a monkey?

Check it out, from 2:33
https://youtu.be/pi6NNCb9rLg?t=2m33s
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby BigEd » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:29 pm

dugpa wrote:This was just posted in FB...


Great catch!

btw: what time does Showtime release the new episodes for somebody accessing through the Showtime Anywhere App? (I.e. can they be accessed at 9:00 PM Eastern time when the first time zone plays the episode?) I'll be traveling tomorrow, but in a hotel with wifi tomorrow night. I have the Showtime Anywhere App installed on both an iPad and an Amazon Fire Stick, so hoping I'll be able to watch it using one of them. Thanks.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Soolsma » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:49 pm

First a new voice for Jeffries in part 14 and now this.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:09 pm

So, the upshot is, we're totally getting a capuchin monkey voiced by Nathan Frizzell.

I have to say, while it's heartbreaking that we just-barely missed out on a Bowie reprise as Jeffries, I'm happy with this solution. And, based on the one line we've heard, the impersonator is spot on.

BigEd wrote:btw: what time does Showtime release the new episodes for somebody accessing through the Showtime Anywhere App? (I.e. can they be accessed at 9:00 PM Eastern time when the first time zone plays the episode?) I'll be traveling tomorrow, but in a hotel with wifi tomorrow night. I have the Showtime Anywhere App installed on both an iPad and an Amazon Fire Stick, so hoping I'll be able to watch it using one of them. Thanks.


It becomes available the second the show starts airing in your time zone (i.e., 9pm). This is true for HBO shows as well. So, in theory, you can skip to the end of Game of Thrones at 9:01 and spoil it for all your TV-viewing friends!
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Snailhead » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:20 pm

What a delicious development!

Can't wait for what I assume is an inevitable appearance of the monkey in The Return.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:23 pm

Just so I have all this straight: Frizzell said he did the dub to correct something regarding "'this' vs. 'that.'" In FWWM, the line is, "Who do you think this is there?" In TMP, the line changes "this" to "that." Part 14 reuses the take from TMP and redubs it...with Frizzell reading the SAME version of the line ("that"). So he didn't actually change anything from the original version of the take. Am I missing something?
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Manwith » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:33 pm

dugpa wrote:This was just posted in FB...


The idea that Lynch was personally handling closed captions seems questionable.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Mr. Jackpots » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:42 pm

I think it's been theorized before that the monkey and Jefferies are one in the same. This discovery certainly supports this.

Jefferies attended the meeting above the Convenience Store as the monkey.

And you can speculate that Jefferies speaks the word "Judy" as the monkey at the end of FWWM because he's the only one who mentions "Judy" to begin with.

I am loving the treatment Jefferies is getting in The Return. For me Jefferies and The box experiment are the 2 best mysteries the new series has offered us.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Wonderful & Strange » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:04 pm

Fans who have been longing for romantic scenes full of swelling music and kisses will be profoundly disappointed by Jeffries the Monkey, particularly when he takes ten minutes to play with his shit. :mrgreen:
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby frahm9 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:07 pm

Sabrina Sutherland cleared up some stuff before, so I asked her on Twitter with the subreddit handle (dugpa just retweeted it).

An user replied that his bluray says the same thing. I don't have one, can anyone check that?

Mr. Reindeer wrote:Just so I have all this straight: Frizzell said he did the dub to correct something regarding "'this' vs. 'that.'" In FWWM, the line is, "Who do you think this is there?" In TMP, the line changes "this" to "that." Part 14 reuses the take from TMP and redubs it...with Frizzell reading the SAME version of the line ("that"). So he didn't actually change anything from the original version of the take. Am I missing something?


Yeah that seems to be the case. The funny thing is that the "meet the long lost Philip Jeffries" part is from FWWM, so he mixed two different takes.
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby Jasper » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:54 pm

Mr. Reindeer wrote:Just so I have all this straight: Frizzell said he did the dub to correct something regarding "'this' vs. 'that.'" In FWWM, the line is, "Who do you think this is there?" In TMP, the line changes "this" to "that." Part 14 reuses the take from TMP and redubs it...with Frizzell reading the SAME version of the line ("that"). So he didn't actually change anything from the original version of the take. Am I missing something?


I have a theory that Frizzell watched FWWM at some point after having done the voice work for The Return. He may have noticed that the line was different in FWWM, and therefor rationalized the incongruity by deciding that he might have been tasked with dubbing it so as to replace "this" with "that", but either didn't notice at the time or forgot about it in the interim. Most people wouldn't be aware that there's a different version of the Bowie scene in The Missing Pieces.

In other words, when it comes to this overdubbing he may have been thinking "I sure as hell wanna tell you everything, but I ain't got a whole lot to go on."
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Re: Jeffries and the Monkey

Postby BigEd » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:54 pm

Mr. Reindeer wrote:
BigEd wrote:btw: what time does Showtime release the new episodes for somebody accessing through the Showtime Anywhere App? (I.e. can they be accessed at 9:00 PM Eastern time when the first time zone plays the episode?) I'll be traveling tomorrow, but in a hotel with wifi tomorrow night. I have the Showtime Anywhere App installed on both an iPad and an Amazon Fire Stick, so hoping I'll be able to watch it using one of them. Thanks.


It becomes available the second the show starts airing in your time zone (i.e., 9pm). This is true for HBO shows as well. So, in theory, you can skip to the end of Game of Thrones at 9:01 and spoil it for all your TV-viewing friends!


Thanks!! Looks like I'll be watching at or close to air time tomorrow.

So, Jeffries declares that "we're not going to talk about Judy," and then makes a monkey out of himself by doing just that?? :lol:

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