LateReg wrote: Nighthawk wrote:
LateReg wrote:First, I get that Cooper knew what he was trying to do - changing the past, which would result in things being different - but I don't know that we can take that Odessa world to mean that it changed in the ways he meant to change it.
To that end, why did Cooper and Diane travel to another reality? They knew things could be very different where they were going, but had no control over what would happen. It seems like a huge risk. Cooper had already prevented Laura from dying in 1989. This should have become a retroactive change in reality when he came out at Glastonbury Grove.
Putting a spoiler for those who did not read The Final Dossier:
I've wondered if, since she got sucked away, Cooper knew he prevented her death. That's a major question. He may have not even known whether he succeeded at that point. Is he surprised she got sucked away, or not? I think he was, as I believe he was trying to lead her to the Fireman. Does that mean the opening conversation in Part 1 between he and the Fireman takes place after she gets sucked away?
I guess as far as why they went to Odessa, it's because yes he prevented her death, but she was missing, and possibly in another world. It wasn't like she just woke up at home, in which case everything would have been more or less normal and Cooper wouldn't have had to travel to Odessa. So they had to take the risk, it seems. Is my take.
Part of the mystery is what happens to Cooper after Laura is grabbed away from him. He looks down to his left, there is a brief glow, and he is suddenly in the Red Room again replaying out a different version of events from what we saw earlier in the show. How did he get back to the Red Room? Was he transported there by the Fireman or Judy, or is the Cooper we see in the Red Room a Cooper from a different timeline, a duplicate Cooper? If Cooper has gone back to 1989, there are essentially two Coopers existing in the same timeline.
I think the Cooper we know in the timeline where Laura died and where he went back to save her ended up with the Giant after Laura was grabbed away, and this is maybe where he and the Giant have the conversation about 430 and Richard and Linda. The Cooper we see in the Red Room in Ep. 18 is the Cooper from the timeline where Laura went missing. This Cooper perhaps knows nothing of Laura's murder in this reality. His goal has been to find Laura all of these years and return her home, which is why the events play out differently in the Red Room. When we see the replay of Laura in the Lodge, I don't think that actually happens in this version of events. It happens right after the Arm asks Cooper if this is the story of the little girl who lived down the lane, which seems to imply that Laura is that story, and seems to be replayed more for the audience as opposed to something that is actually occurring in this sequence of events. The only thing that doesn't make sense is how this Cooper would know about 430, unless this was a different conversation that he had with the Giant or came about this information in a different way. He doesn't seem to know about Richard and Linda as he's surprised by Diane's note and continues to function as Cooper and not Richard, even though he has clearly changed and is not acting like the Cooper we know.
- Don't know if any of this makes sense as I have confused myself, but basically I think the trip to Odessa was maybe the goal of a Cooper from a different timeline and the goal of our Cooper from this timeline merging - finding Laura to return her home and defeating Judy. Two birds with one stone.