One year later - how are we feeling?

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One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby TheArm » Thu May 31, 2018 11:42 am

I'm curious, now that it's a year since TP:TR aired, has anyone's feelings changed? Now that we're a ways away from all of hype, the excitement and the anticipation, has the time and distance made you love it more? Hate it more? See it in a different light? I only ask because I know that I certainly had to go through my own process when I first saw FWWM, and how my feelings changed the more I watched and digested it. I was really thrown by the film and how shockingly different and tonally dissonant it was from the series, but I gradually came to understand what Lynch was doing with that film and I grew to love it with time (though I certainly didn't when I first watched it). Is anyone having that experience here?

I just ask because I still find all of the disparate feelings on TP:TR interesting, and I'm curious to see how they evolve over time. It's interesting to me how very much the critics embraced it wholeheartedly and named it one of the best shows of 2017 across the board (it's #2 on Metacritic's end-of-the-year aggregate of all of the critics' Top 10 lists, 2nd only to The Leftovers S3), how unhappy and disappointed so many die-hard fans of the original series were when it first aired, and the fact that it was otherwise mostly ignored by the general public. And even now as we approach the Emmys, despite all of the critical acclaim, it feels like it has a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything, or even being nominated for much.

Is the passage of time changing anyone's feelings/opinions on the series?
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby N. Needleman » Thu May 31, 2018 12:01 pm

A-OK.

I didn't get everything I wanted, but I got what I needed and then some. That's what I expected from David Lynch. It was, once again, like nothing I've ever seen. I never thought I'd have that experience again, but that first night alone - man. It shattered every expectation and I was jolted many times, but what I got I loved.

Fans will come around, or not, just like FWWM. I love it and I'm very happy. And it's now a TV legend all its own. The rest of the public will come to it again too, just as they have with Seasons 1-2 and FWWM over the years.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby Soolsma » Thu May 31, 2018 12:05 pm

TheArm wrote:I only ask because I know that I certainly had to go through my own process when I first saw FWWM, and how my feelings changed the more I watched and digested it. I was really thrown by the film and how shockingly different and tonally dissonant it was from the series, but I gradually came to understand what Lynch was doing with that film and I grew to love it with time (though I certainly didn't when I first watched it). Is anyone having that experience here?


Yep, that pretty much sums it up for me. I started another re-watch, which I plan to take slow, by watching parts 1+2 yesterday evening. Though I initially already really liked it, I have now become more used to this completely new style and appreciate it even more. This appreciation indeed partially stems from the deeper understanding I have of the series as a whole (both aesthetically and storywise) but watching it again also has hints of nostalgia now, a constant feeling of wanderlust to keep rediscovering this beautiful and strange world even more (I don't think I would ever have described s3 as such upon initial viewing.), like the originals always could did so well for me.
This probably also has something to do with the fact it's that time of year again.
(Watching TP on a cool summer evening, not too cool, the open windows bringing a delightful scent of nature only just washed by a heavy thunderstorm. What a delight!!)
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby Jerry Horne » Thu May 31, 2018 12:15 pm

I'm only half way through my first re-watch right now. I wanted to take some time to let the series linger in my mind before diving back in. I'm glad I did. If I was on the fence at any point, I'm not now. I love it, and for me, I see the light.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby N. Needleman » Thu May 31, 2018 12:21 pm

I might go back this weekend too. What the hell. And I still need to buy the Blu-Ray.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby Poiuyt » Thu May 31, 2018 1:31 pm

I've warmed up to it. Being able to watch all 18 hours at one's own pace I think releases the stress from those weeklong waits last year.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby madeleineferguson » Thu May 31, 2018 4:16 pm

There was a lot about Season 3 of Twin Peaks that I just didn't understand, and still don't. And it's taken these past few months to come to terms with the fact that probably, I will never understand it all. But today, I'm ok with that. I'm frustrated by some things, sure. But I'm hopeful that someday, after many viewings and countless discussions (mostly on here!), I will have a much better understanding of it.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby baxter » Thu May 31, 2018 9:04 pm

I remain totally obsessed with it, think about it every day trying to puzzle it out, and even dream about it on occasion. That must mean that I like it!

I've been trying to find time to start a rewatch, and I might start this weekend (FWWM -> S1 pilot -> S2 finale -> S3). Watching the whole of the original series again would just be odd to me now, since it is a completely different show, most of which now seems irrelevant. Of course, there are other important episodes in the original series, but I want to focus on S3 and have limited time (plus I rewatched the original series twice last year anyway!).

There is a huge amout that I love about the new series, and other parts still haven't quite clicked. Two examples: on a first viewing, that casino scene in E3 seemed to go on for far too long with no payoff, and the "is it about the bunny?" scene had a really odd rhythm (maybe not helped by the lack of music). Maybe with the casino, it had been such a crazy journey up to that point that something relatively straightforward seemed boring! The series was full of moments like that, almost like the editing was off somehow. I did do a partial rewatch late last year and found it much pacier though, which is interesting. I also have no problem with slow cinema in general, there is just something funny about the tone of the new show in places.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby N. Needleman » Thu May 31, 2018 9:10 pm

Listening to the unused Johnny Jewel score makes me even more obsessed. It's beautiful work and while I'm happy with the music situation as is and am not a fan of most fan edits (at least when it comes to David Lynch), I do wonder what it'd have been like to hear all of this in Season 3. It makes me remember and relive.

baxter wrote:I've been trying to find time to start a rewatch, and I might start this weekend (FWWM -> S1 pilot -> S2 finale -> S3).


I think you'd be better off watching FWWM last before S3. They're the most similar tonally and most relevant, IMO.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby baxter » Thu May 31, 2018 9:41 pm

I did think about that. But I wanted to watch things in series chronology order, since I've never done it.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby baxter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:09 am

hmmmm- maybe I'll do the missing pieces last before S3. I completely forgot about those, and I think they are almost the pilot episode of S3.

I must check out that Johnny Jewel album.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby Soolsma » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:35 am

TMP are possibly even more tonally similar.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby TheArm » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:46 am

Soolsma wrote:TMP are possibly even more tonally similar.


Agreed, also in the way that they're structured. How it's all meant to be its own "movie" of sorts, but it also feels sort of disparate and disconnected, like TP:TR feels.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby Trudy Chelgren » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:47 am

I love it, and will forever. After distance, and a lot of thought, the show just sings.
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Re: One year later - how are we feeling?

Postby baxter » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:47 pm

You are definitely right on the missing pieces. TPTR seems to owe a huge amount to it. It's almost like Lynch edited TMP together to form the blueprint for S3. Makes sense I suppose- if you saturate yourself in that material, you immediately start thinking about where it would have gone next.

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