Rough/Blurry Footage and Differences (TV x DVD)

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Re: Rough/Blurry Footage and Differences (TV x DVD)

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thegreatnorthern wrote: I will add some screen shots, especially from the scenes in question
Please do, I never saw any screencaps from the LDs.
Did you get the Japanese set? I don't know about the sound/image but the package is one of the best TP had so far
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Yes i am starting the japanese boxset tranfers next week, the image quality is a little tighter than the us worldvision releases, the coloring is slightly improved an sharper, only drawback is the bottom centered japanese subtitles are not removable but this can be overcome by cropping in your preferred player, i will post some delicious screen captures tonight .. There is just something more authentic about the original broadcast versions
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@thegreatnorthern

Can you post screenshots from Episode 1 to compare this two shots from the hospital:

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qbin2001, C-07. [Episode 21] 43:11-43:13 (Woods & FX owl) was fixed as well
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Can you get a screencap of the reverse shot of Window stabbing Cooper in the lodge? That's also rough
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thegreatnorthern wrote:.
Great, thanks for that. Is that from the Worldvision US set or the Japanese?
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these are from the US set, I will post the japanese set soon, qbin posted the alternate screen cap from ep.1 hawk pursuing the one armed man scene, The sign however is different, I will post some more screen images ..


The Ep.1 alternate scene was posted here:
http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... k&start=75

Also, strangely the room numbers change as hawk looks at the sign in front of him and to his right, while pursuing the one armed man
the morgue, room 205, becomes, 241
and the oxygen storage, room 203, becomes 231
these are from the itunes 1080p
I think the 720 and gold box edition are consistent
[ left image laserdisc and vhs / right image itunes 720p ]
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I meant Laserdisc screenshots ;-)
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All Windom flash frames from the last episode (during Laura's scream).

This are 2 frames digitally changed to 5 frames with different effects.

This are taken from unused material filmed while Windom talks with Cooper later in the episode (You can see Cooper's arm on one of this).

This shot is probably lost, so don't expect fix on Bluray.
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Stabbing reverse over fire.

The fire shots (from WAH) are gone for good, so there's no chance to get it fixed on Bluray.

All fire shots used in few last episodes are from WAH and gone.
So, all fire shots and shots that dissolves with fire shots, are not fixed and will never be. Very sad.
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Re: Rough/Blurry Footage and Differences (TV x DVD)

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Great summary so far! As for differences, don't forget the lack of the "To be Continued" title card at the end of Episode 7.

Other shots that were redone in Episode 22 (29) for the DVD sets are when Windom and Annie enter the lodge - the original effect had at least Annie in transparency when she enters, in the DVD version she only seem to be transparent for a brief moment (only when the drapes fade in). And I assume they also went back to the negative in the later similar shot when Cooper enters.

Another shot that was redone for the DVD version is when Cooper (Bob) & Annie appears outside the lodge at the end of the episode - the establishing shot of the drapes in the woods with the stage light is quite different in the original broadcast where the drapes are moving, in the DVD version the drapes are static IIRC. Don't know how they treated the end credits on other episodes but I'm pretty sure they digitally recomposited the end credits in the last episode.
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thegreatnorthern wrote:The Ep.1 alternate scene was posted here:
http://www.dugpa.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... k&start=75

Also, strangely the room numbers change as hawk looks at the sign in front of him and to his right, while pursuing the one armed man
the morgue, room 205, becomes, 241
and the oxygen storage, room 203, becomes 231
Well, the numbers doesn't actually change, they are two different signs after all (at least meant to be story wise). When Hawk enters the room and look at the wall in front of him we get the close-up shot of the sign that reads, OXYGEN STORAGE 203 and MORGUE 205. Next we cut to Hawk who turns and look to his right where he see another similar sign that says OXYGEN STORAGE 231 and MORGUE 241. Am I understanding it correctly that it was only the latter of the two shots that was replaced with an odd looking Exit sign or is it there in the close-up in the VHS and LD versions as well?

The question is, how is the original US broadcast of this scene? In the other thread Audrey Horne says she/he is pretty sure there is no Exit sign on her/his broadcast tape. At the same time qbin2001 says he/she is 100% sure that the original broadcast version has the Exit sign...
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