Agent Earle wrote:
Seriously, though, I think S3 would cause major dramatic blunder if it avoided referencing him all together - it would only go to show that Lynch has grown weak in his elder years and is resorting to such cripple, trite comic book-adapting tactics as fan service.
I have to agree. To simply erase characters that are associated with bad plotting by fans is the worst route they could follow IMO.
I'm shocked that some people are considering (some even hoping) that Annie will be simply ignored in S3. Like it or not, these characters are part of the timeline. Unless there's a very good reason to erase them that concerns the plot (like alternate reality or whatever), they have to be acknowledged.
Why? It's 25 years later.
So you'd forget someone on account of whom you - for all intents and purposes - lost your mind (or was split in two ), just because it's been 25 years? Well, I can see that you would, seeing that you haven't been yourself for these 25 years, but I doubt everyone else around you would.
Agent Earle wrote:Which is why I think it's important for the creators, at least, to know and respect their show's narrative history so that they don't erase persons and plot points simply because they were buried under a pile of fan and critical manure for 25 years.
I doubt David Lynch gives a fuck about that. I just don't think he ever cared much for Windom Earle.
AnotherBlueRoseCase wrote:The Return is clearly guaranteed a future audience among stoners and other drug users.
Agent Earle wrote:Which is why I think it's important for the creators, at least, to know and respect their show's narrative history so that they don't erase persons and plot points simply because they were buried under a pile of fan and critical manure for 25 years.
I doubt David Lynch gives a fuck about that. I just don't think he ever cared much for Windom Earle.
Didn't he really (care), though? I have yet to hear a single word about the character come out of Lynch's mouth.
Rewatching the series in its entirety for the first time in many years. What strikes me first and foremost about Windom Earle: his laughter. It makes him come across as a character straight out of MacGyver...
I will point out that the one time Windom Earle is somewhat scary: the black lips/white face scene in ep 28, not by lynch, but that makeup associated with the black lodge was used in FWWM. I think he found a more disturbing aspect to the character. It does seem notable, though, that from the original script of ep 29 to the final version, the amount of Windom Earle was reduced by probably 90%.
Cooper probably will confront why he failed at the lodge and Annie and Windom Earle play a large part in that. I can't imagine they won't be mentioned as they're a huge part of Cooper's past.
Agent Earle wrote:Which is why I think it's important for the creators, at least, to know and respect their show's narrative history so that they don't erase persons and plot points simply because they were buried under a pile of fan and critical manure for 25 years.
I doubt David Lynch gives a fuck about that. I just don't think he ever cared much for Windom Earle.
Windom Earle was considered to appear in the subsequent films following FWWM in the Phillip Jeffries/Judy storyline so I'm sure Lynch is fine with him.
Agent Earle wrote:Which is why I think it's important for the creators, at least, to know and respect their show's narrative history so that they don't erase persons and plot points simply because they were buried under a pile of fan and critical manure for 25 years.
I doubt David Lynch gives a fuck about that. I just don't think he ever cared much for Windom Earle.
Windom Earle was considered to appear in the subsequent films following FWWM in the Phillip Jeffries/Judy storyline so I'm sure Lynch is fine with him.
Truly? That's the first time I'm hearing about it.
Agent Sam Stanley wrote:
Windom Earle was considered to appear in the subsequent films following FWWM in the Phillip Jeffries/Judy storyline so I'm sure Lynch is fine with him.
Truly? That's the first time I'm hearing about it.
Oh yeah, Robert Engels talked about it a few times. Earle was supposed to be in the Palm Deluxe making business deals with Judy at the same time Jeffries was there.
Agent Sam Stanley wrote:
Windom Earle was considered to appear in the subsequent films following FWWM in the Phillip Jeffries/Judy storyline so I'm sure Lynch is fine with him.
Truly? That's the first time I'm hearing about it.
Oh yeah, Robert Engels talked about it a few times. Earle was supposed to be in the Palm Deluxe making business deals with Judy at the same time Jeffries was there.
kitty666cats wrote: As I will always say, Windom Earle was a great idea conceptually (brilliant ex FBI partner gone absolutely mad), but DAMN was it ever poorly executed!
Yes. Although Twin Peaks was riffing on the supersoaps of the past decade, the Windom Earle material was shockingly badly played and cringeworthy after the dramas of the Laura
Palmer story.
kitty666cats wrote: As I will always say, Windom Earle was a great idea conceptually (brilliant ex FBI partner gone absolutely mad), but DAMN was it ever poorly executed!
Yes. Although Twin Peaks was riffing on the supersoaps of the past decade, the Windom Earle material was shockingly badly played and cringeworthy after the dramas of the Laura
Palmer story.
), just because it's been 25 years? Well, I can see that you would, seeing that you haven't been yourself for these 25 years, but I doubt everyone else around you would.
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