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Theories Including Season 3 SPOILERS Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:30 am
by Hawk's Poem
Hey guys. I wanted to be able to talk about the book in relation to Season 3 spoilers and there really wasn't a good place to do it, hence this new topic.

A few things: In the book, the nuclear plant near Twin Peaks is mentioned several times and seems to be tied to the supernatural. With it being rumored that the new season involves a nuclear explosion what do you think this could mean? Could this be Dopple-Coop or another Lodge inhabitant trying to "bridge the two worlds" so to speak?

In FWWM, Annie tells Laura to write in her diary that the good Dale is in the Lodge. Now in the new book, there are no mentions of Annie. Frost publicly is being coy, saying he can't talk about Annie and that Lana won the pageant at the end of Season 2. This combined with the book changing Norma's family backstory makes me wonder if Dopple-Coop made edits to the dossier so that no one would dig more into Annie's story and find Laura's diary entry about him in the Lodge.

Would love to hear your thoughts as well as other theories based on all of the information we have (both spoiler and non). Damn I'm excited to be talking new Twin Peaks.

Re: Theories Including Season 3 Spoilers Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:36 am
by N. Needleman
It isn't enough to try and obscure mention of Annie from someone's homemade archive. Gordon Cole, various folks at the Bureau (Diane, probably Albert) and everyone in Twin Peaks would know about Annie Blackburn and what happened to her, her relationship to Cooper. All Agent Preston would have to do is run the facts of the case by Cole and Annie's name would come up. Unless something else has stepped in to remove people's knowledge of her, in which case Cole might not recall.

Re: Theories Including Season 3 Spoilers Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:52 am
by StealThisCorn
(Cross post from the SPOILERS: TSHOTP thread)

It occurs to me that the stuff with Lana, Norma's family history and the hush hush surrounding Annie may be the result of an entire plot point which spiraled out of David and Mark choosing to expand on the significance of the show's final ominous closing line, where the Bad Dale (and BOB) ask with mocking laughter, "How's Annie?"

Perhaps Annie's off-camera ordeal in the Red Room and BOB's powers over time and space is what has somehow resulted in this mysterious temporal weirdness and the fate Annie suffered is having ramifications throughout the entire timeline, altering events and people surrounding her. She was able to get that message back in time to Laura at least. Something is definitely happening with this. No one is crazy. It could be taken too far, but Mark Frost's statements that "All will be revealed in time" and that he "isn't supposed to discuss Annie" are very telling.

So, after thinking about it, I'm pretty well convinced that this may all be the result of Mark and David wanting to give more weight to the "How's Annie?" wham line and make the answer far more interesting than anyone would've expected previously. Like Annie's entire ontological existence is in jeopardy, not just her life.

Re: Theories Including Season 3 Spoilers Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:22 am
by Yasdnil
I don't think it's a mistake. Mark Frost is being deliberately coy about Annie for a reason. Personally, I'm with M. Needleman and StealThisCorn above--things are being altered temporally. I think the inclusion of conflicting documents within the dossier itself suggests that someone is knowingly compiling information from an alternate timeline in order to tip someone off that things are not what they seem (I'm thinking here of the strange inconsistencies such as re: Robert Jacoby, where there's no info to conflict with from the show itself but the documents in the dossier conflict with each other, or possibly the two versions of the postcard we've seen--one from the trailer and the one included in the book.)

So I'm thinking these conflicts are the work of someone involved in the creation or collation of the dossier, and their purpose has been to alert someone (possibly Gordon Cole and his team of Blue Rose specialists) that something else is at play here. Unfortunately, he passed it along to Special Agent Tamara Preston who didn't catch any of it...

Does that make sense?

Re: Theories Including Season 3 Spoilers Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:29 pm
by laughingpinecone
Apropos nothing, but what's the deal with Jacoby? I can't remember the details - was he spotted in Washington last year? If so, do you think it contradicts his ending segment in the book?

Re: Theories Including Season 3 Spoilers Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by andrewlion19
laughingpinecone wrote:Apropos nothing, but what's the deal with Jacoby? I can't remember the details - was he spotted in Washington last year? If so, do you think it contradicts his ending segment in the book?
He lost his license to practice, but there's nothing stopping him from being in the state.

Re: Theories Including Season 3 SPOILERS Plus TSHOTP

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:37 am
by laughingpinecone
What are your opinions on the status of the characters who were, in a way, left behind by TSHOTP? The ones who barely got a mention of their terrible fate - or who conspicuously didn't get mentioned at all - and aren't in the cast list. I'm mostly thinking about Annie, Sam, Chet and even Harry. Do you think we'll get to know what happened to them? Through a surprise appearance? Recounted by some other character? No mention at all?

andrewlion19 wrote: He lost his license to practice, but there's nothing stopping him from being in the state.
Yeah but he'd need a reason to be back in Washington, wouldn't he? With no relatives and no job there, I wonder what might draw him back!