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Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:00 am
by Here Comes That Bob
Ugh, Michael Cera ...

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:04 am
by Trudy Chelgren
I remember reading on the forum a while ago about there apparently being a scene between Andy and Hawk, which was partly improvised, that was supposedly unbelievably funny. I have no doubts about there being a lack of humour. If anything, I imagine the contrasts between the two sides of Twin Peaks will have heightened. We already know it's going to be very dark, violent and disturbing in some places, but I'm sure there will be uplifting moments, funny asides, and emotional levity.

I think the nature of Twin Peaks as a 'TV show' is that it is inherently unbalanced. It's not easy to quantify what makes it what it is; I am of the opinion that FWWM is a profoundly moving masterpiece, some can't stand it. But what I think makes Lynch so special to me, is that I struggle knowing when to laugh. I must have found something funny in every Lynch film, be it a hesitancy in delivering dialogue, or an unexpected moment of light slapstick. I'm absolutely convinced that at some point in S3 I will laugh at something without knowing if the humour was intentional, and I believe that's just as valid as laughing at Andy falling down, or Cooper pinching Harry's nose.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:09 am
by Here Comes That Bob
Snailhead wrote:I find FWWM charming... there's humour there. And Lynch contributed a lot of the humour to the original series. I love Frost but he wasn't the only part of the equation responsible for levity.

So, yeah, there's a good number of fun parts to balance the darkness, I find:

- DEER MEADOW. Carl Rodd, Irene, the awkward interactions between Chet and Sam, lotsa fun stuff.
- Albert.
- Bobby walking around the high school.
- Jacques in the pink room.
- Laura getting into that outfit while on the phone with James.
- Laura laughing after Bobby kills the guy. (ok maybe I have a twisted sense of humour...)
Don't forget my personal favourites...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNEhVHL ... e=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8_1H4Z ... e=youtu.be

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:20 am
by NightTimeMyTime
Trudy Chelgren wrote:But what I think makes Lynch so special to me, is that I struggle knowing when to laugh. I must have found something funny in every Lynch film, be it a hesitancy in delivering dialogue, or an unexpected moment of light slapstick. I'm absolutely convinced that at some point in S3 I will laugh at something without knowing if the humour was intentional, and I believe that's just as valid as laughing at Andy falling down, or Cooper pinching Harry's nose.
What you're explaining is the absurdism of Lynch, which I also love, a lot more than the humor. Those moments when you don't know what to feel. It's both sad or dark and funny at the same time. Like the scene in Eraserhead with the chickens. It's horrifying and funny at the same time. You feel uncomfortable but with a smile on your face.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:32 am
by Rainwater
Gabriel wrote:It's always a danger you'll profoundly dislike a belated continuation of a series. I detest modern Doctor Who. I detest all non-Kirk/TOS Star Trek. If I hate the new Twin Peaks, so be it. I'll be massively disappointed, but it won't be the first time. I've got my battle scars! ;)
Honestly, I don't think I'm entirely prepared for it. I've immersed myself in the hype too much, which would, of course, add all that much more to the disappointment. I bet I'm not alone in that.
Gabriel wrote:While I understand a lot of people are married to the 'dark' side of a Twin Peaks, a lot of people love it for something more: charm. The original show was charming and witty. No matter how dark things got, there was something quirky that would happen, be it a fish in a percolator or a barbershop quartet in the Great Northern. Indeed, I think the horror was enhanced by the presence of the humour, 'black as midnight on a moonless night' coffee and damn fine cherry pie.
I wholeheartedly agree. The contrast is not a small part of what made Twin Peaks so special - and, as Snailhead says, FWWM has it as well, albeit the darkness comes in proportionately larger doses.
Snailhead wrote:- Laura laughing after Bobby kills the guy. (ok maybe I have a twisted sense of humour...)
I always found that scene hilarious.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:41 am
by The Jumping Man
Don't forget Kyle saying "there's a lightness to it" in the behind-the-scenes promo, which wouldn't make much sense if it's unrelentingly dark.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:54 am
by eyeboogers
TvinPiks wrote:
Dalai Cooper wrote:I'm sure your taste is great, just great, but um are you sure you didn't accidentally watch a jodorovsky film instead of mulholland dr cause otherwise I can't see where this quasireligious claptrap comes from
Let me reply in polite, noncondescending manner (since your post was doubtlessly as noncondescending as they get): Yes, I am sure.
TvinPiks, you and I have had no previous correspondance on this forum and it is perfectly fine to state your opinions. Sometimes it is hard to know how one's writing comes across on online forums, most of your posts seem very aggressive/hostile and I am sure you don't mean them to be that way. Basically what I am trying to say is, if you want other board members to be respectful and curious during debates, be sure to do the same.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:55 am
by mtwentz
The Jumping Man wrote:Don't forget Kyle saying "there's a lightness to it" in the behind-the-scenes promo, which wouldn't make much sense if it's unrelentingly dark.
It's really hard to read too much into that statement, because it's taken out of context. You don't know what Kyle was referring to- the new show, the original show, the camraderie with his fellow actors, etc.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:58 am
by mtwentz
Has anybody considered the possibility that Good Dale gets out of the Lodge early in the series, only to discover his doppelganger has caused mayhem on Planet Earth, which creates all kind of dilemmas for him?

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:52 am
by eyeboogers
mtwentz wrote:Has anybody considered the possibility that Good Dale gets out of the Lodge early in the series, only to discover his doppelganger has caused mayhem on Planet Earth, which creates all kind of dilemmas for him?
Could be interesting, as long as it doesn't get too "Superman III" :-)

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:59 am
by mtwentz
eyeboogers wrote:
mtwentz wrote:Has anybody considered the possibility that Good Dale gets out of the Lodge early in the series, only to discover his doppelganger has caused mayhem on Planet Earth, which creates all kind of dilemmas for him?
Could be interesting, as long as it doesn't get too "Superman III" :-)
Hey that battle between Clark Kent and Superman was classic :-)

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:43 am
by DirkG
mtwentz wrote:
The Jumping Man wrote:Don't forget Kyle saying "there's a lightness to it" in the behind-the-scenes promo, which wouldn't make much sense if it's unrelentingly dark.
It's really hard to read too much into that statement, because it's taken out of context. You don't know what Kyle was referring to- the new show, the original show, the camraderie with his fellow actors, etc.
Isn't the new show implied? It would be borderline fake news if it wasn't.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:46 am
by eyeboogers
DirkG wrote:
mtwentz wrote:
The Jumping Man wrote:Don't forget Kyle saying "there's a lightness to it" in the behind-the-scenes promo, which wouldn't make much sense if it's unrelentingly dark.
It's really hard to read too much into that statement, because it's taken out of context. You don't know what Kyle was referring to- the new show, the original show, the camraderie with his fellow actors, etc.
Isn't the new show implied? It would be borderline fake news if it wasn't.
I perceived it as being about the nature of the working collaboration and in no way to be about the tone of the content.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:57 am
by Rainwater
eyeboogers wrote:
DirkG wrote:
mtwentz wrote:
It's really hard to read too much into that statement, because it's taken out of context. You don't know what Kyle was referring to- the new show, the original show, the camraderie with his fellow actors, etc.
Isn't the new show implied? It would be borderline fake news if it wasn't.
I perceived it as being about the nature of the working collaboration and in no way to be about the tone of the content.
Same.

Re: NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:23 am
by mtwentz
eyeboogers wrote:
DirkG wrote:
mtwentz wrote:
It's really hard to read too much into that statement, because it's taken out of context. You don't know what Kyle was referring to- the new show, the original show, the camraderie with his fellow actors, etc.
Isn't the new show implied? It would be borderline fake news if it wasn't.
I perceived it as being about the nature of the working collaboration and in no way to be about the tone of the content.
That's what I think is most likely too as being the context of Kyle's 'lightness' statement.