In light of the Sad News about the loss of Miguel Ferrier, I was reminded that before S3 was announced I like many other fans had my own continuation of the story playing around in my head… in my mind Albert Rosenfeld would have played a big part in the retrieval of Cooper and would have returned to Twin Peaks to investigate Coopers doppelganger/ Coopers disappearance and would continue to Form a bond with Truman and Twin Peaks…
What was everyone else’s (now alternate) S3?...
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Mine was similar, but included Major Briggs and Sheriff Harry S. Truman.
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I would love for that to be the case. Though in theory, it is still possible for this to be the case as I assume the show is completely filmed already and he'd still be in it in the same capacity as before despite Miguel Ferrer's passing.
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I'm pretty sure at one point I was imagining 25 years later to look something like this:
- Cooper now has one arm, having severed it to partially free himself from Bob's influence a la The One Armed Man. He has been missing for some time.
- Bobby is completely reformed and now the Sheriff of Twin Peaks
- Shelly is a school teacher or a guidance counselor, and is happily married to Bobby.
- James is a brooding criminal, all purpose thug for hire type. He still wears the half heart necklace.
- Catherine has knocked down most of the forest and built an ugly mall (or other drab modern development) on top of it
- The Glastonberry Grove entrance to the Lodges is gone, a mall escalator stands in the approximate location where the portal used to be. So now an escalator is used to enter the lodges.
- Hawk becomes a mall cop after a leg injury forces him to retire from the police department
- Ben is a down on his luck small business owner struggling to keep The Great Northern and Horne's Department Store afloat
- The Great Northern falls into a Grey Gardens-esque state of disrepair, with wild animals running afoot, Johnny Horne performing "Indian raids" on unsuspecting guests and a wheelchair bound Audrey Horne flirting with male guests and telling over-exaggerated tales of her past glory
- Josie and Andrew Packard's secret child that was birthed in Hong Kong appears and stakes a claim in Catherine's business holdings
- Nadine has invented silent drape runners and they become massively successful. She begins a lifestyle brand and America falls in love with her unique look. Nadine publishes cookbooks, and some of the recipes she passes off as her own are in fact lifted directly from the Double R's menu. A celebrity, she is constantly asked for autographs everywhere she goes. She buys the Double R from Norma, divorces Ed, and is on her fourth husband. She has her eye on purchasing the Great Northern next...
- With the sawmill gone, Twin Peaks has become a tourist town, with countless out-of-towners visiting every year to see the sites and eat the food popularized by Nadine. Visitors hear rumors about what happened in the past, but tour guides like Dick Tremayne are quick to change the topic.
- Norma is a politcal wife to the mayor of Twin Peaks (one of the Milfords).
- Ed is still operating his gas farm and is a loyal Bookhouse Boy. He and Norma pine for each other still, but are kept apart by Norma's husbands career, which is almost entirely contingent upon his wife's charm, as she offsets all of the negative press brought on by his financial ties to Catherine Martell.
- Mike Nelson is a Bookhouse Boy and high school wrestling/football coach
- Andy and Lucy's son is actually a very competent police officer
- Andy is retired and does Bob Ross style scenic paintings at a kiosk in the mall. Has daily lunches with Hawk in the food court. They keep an eye out for evil forces and strange happenings on the escalator or in the mall at large.
- Lucy is still the receptionist and frequently embarrasses her son
- Albert and Truman are retired and live together in a cabin in the woods
- Donna lives in California and is a failed actress. She avoids Twin Peaks, but when her checks from Ben Horne run out she ends up broke and back home, trying to help the Horne's become fiscally solvent again.
- Leo is an idiot savant now, having (somehow) been given intelligence from Earle's spiders. He is really good at chess and spends his spare time sitting at the counter of the Double R explaining the science behind everything that happens, from the carbonation in customers' soda to the movements of the clouds outside.
- Sarah Palmer is possessed by Wyndham Earle, but has become diluted by Sarah's drug and emotional problems. S/he is basically reduced to offering up vague warnings about Lodge phenomena during commercial breaks for Invitation to Love.
- Annie is a shut-in
- Alicia Witt (Donna's sister) is the new Dr. Hayward
And I guess maybe a new killing happens, which would start the plot moving again.
- Cooper now has one arm, having severed it to partially free himself from Bob's influence a la The One Armed Man. He has been missing for some time.
- Bobby is completely reformed and now the Sheriff of Twin Peaks
- Shelly is a school teacher or a guidance counselor, and is happily married to Bobby.
- James is a brooding criminal, all purpose thug for hire type. He still wears the half heart necklace.
- Catherine has knocked down most of the forest and built an ugly mall (or other drab modern development) on top of it
- The Glastonberry Grove entrance to the Lodges is gone, a mall escalator stands in the approximate location where the portal used to be. So now an escalator is used to enter the lodges.
- Hawk becomes a mall cop after a leg injury forces him to retire from the police department
- Ben is a down on his luck small business owner struggling to keep The Great Northern and Horne's Department Store afloat
- The Great Northern falls into a Grey Gardens-esque state of disrepair, with wild animals running afoot, Johnny Horne performing "Indian raids" on unsuspecting guests and a wheelchair bound Audrey Horne flirting with male guests and telling over-exaggerated tales of her past glory
- Josie and Andrew Packard's secret child that was birthed in Hong Kong appears and stakes a claim in Catherine's business holdings
- Nadine has invented silent drape runners and they become massively successful. She begins a lifestyle brand and America falls in love with her unique look. Nadine publishes cookbooks, and some of the recipes she passes off as her own are in fact lifted directly from the Double R's menu. A celebrity, she is constantly asked for autographs everywhere she goes. She buys the Double R from Norma, divorces Ed, and is on her fourth husband. She has her eye on purchasing the Great Northern next...
- With the sawmill gone, Twin Peaks has become a tourist town, with countless out-of-towners visiting every year to see the sites and eat the food popularized by Nadine. Visitors hear rumors about what happened in the past, but tour guides like Dick Tremayne are quick to change the topic.
- Norma is a politcal wife to the mayor of Twin Peaks (one of the Milfords).
- Ed is still operating his gas farm and is a loyal Bookhouse Boy. He and Norma pine for each other still, but are kept apart by Norma's husbands career, which is almost entirely contingent upon his wife's charm, as she offsets all of the negative press brought on by his financial ties to Catherine Martell.
- Mike Nelson is a Bookhouse Boy and high school wrestling/football coach
- Andy and Lucy's son is actually a very competent police officer
- Andy is retired and does Bob Ross style scenic paintings at a kiosk in the mall. Has daily lunches with Hawk in the food court. They keep an eye out for evil forces and strange happenings on the escalator or in the mall at large.
- Lucy is still the receptionist and frequently embarrasses her son
- Albert and Truman are retired and live together in a cabin in the woods
- Donna lives in California and is a failed actress. She avoids Twin Peaks, but when her checks from Ben Horne run out she ends up broke and back home, trying to help the Horne's become fiscally solvent again.
- Leo is an idiot savant now, having (somehow) been given intelligence from Earle's spiders. He is really good at chess and spends his spare time sitting at the counter of the Double R explaining the science behind everything that happens, from the carbonation in customers' soda to the movements of the clouds outside.
- Sarah Palmer is possessed by Wyndham Earle, but has become diluted by Sarah's drug and emotional problems. S/he is basically reduced to offering up vague warnings about Lodge phenomena during commercial breaks for Invitation to Love.
- Annie is a shut-in
- Alicia Witt (Donna's sister) is the new Dr. Hayward
And I guess maybe a new killing happens, which would start the plot moving again.
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There is that little tidbit of information out there about how a plan for S3 was Briggs and Truman leading a rescue mission into the Black Lodge to save Cooper. I have no idea where that info originally came from, seems to be lost to time. I think it was in an interview with Don Davis somewhere?Dead Dog wrote:Mine was similar, but included Major Briggs and Sheriff Harry S. Truman.
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I kind of love Cappy's take and wish to hear more.
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Since N. Needleman asked... Here are some elaborations on what I think the characters would/should be like 25 years later.
- Hawk is a mall cop in the new mall. Officially he retired from the police following a leg injury, but he later reveals he left to be in the mall full time to keep an eye on "the evil from the woods". Since Glastonbury Grove was torn down as well, and the mall is built on top of it, the mall tends to exhibit random strange occurrences that Hawk tries to steer customers away from. An escalator exists in the exact spot where the original lodge entrance originally was, and is suspected to be the lodge's new entrance. Maybe Hawk's first scene can be him delivering a beautiful monologue about the sublime majesty of mountains and the forest in front of a mall water fountain, then the camera cuts to an impatient mall-goer who says "...but I asked where Yankee Candle is."
He takes long breaks where he stands on the top most floor of the parking garage and stares out at the mountains.
- Andy does caricature paintings/drawings at a kiosk in the mall, and has daily lunches with Hawk in the food court. He is married to Lucy and the father of Andy Jr. He spends his time musing over the hidden meaning of CInnabon's name, mistaking Barnes and Noble for a farm supply store, and make wide-eyed reactions when looking at provocative t-shirts in the window of Hot Topic (or Spencer's). Andy is not consciously aware of "the evil from the wood", but he can depict it in his drawings. His paintings of locations in the mall look like the inside of the Black Lodge, and he can't account for why. He also tries to do paintings of some individuals possessed by Lodge spirits, and he can only paint their inhabiting spirit and not them. Andy's paintings also transform long after he has finished working on them, sometimes reflecting the fate of the subjects. Unbeknownst to Andy, he himself is the new host of The Giant.
In Andy's down time he paints the woods and misses them.
- Shelly is happily married to Bobby, and they have a daughter, Judy Garland Briggs. Shelly is the guidance counselor at Twin Peaks High School, which puts her in a position to have a considerable amount of insight into the kids' lives. She draws upon her own experiences with domestic abuse (and her master's degree in counseling) to to identify troubled students and help them out. When a new murder occurs, she finds herself in the thick of the investigation, as the victim spent a lot of time with her, and the victim was best friends with her daughter Judy. She interviews a lot of students that were affected by the new murder, maybe uncovering some new clues in the process. Shelly is torn between protecting her students and sharing their secrets with Bobby, who is the Sheriff of Twin Peaks.
During lunch Shelly goes into the teacher's lounge, makes instant coffee in the microwave, and holds the mug up to her nose and tries to conjure up memories of Norma and the Double R.
- James is a career criminal. Catherine calls him in for favors when she needs muscle, and he works part time as a ski instructor at Catherine's new ski resort and hotel. He ski instructions are filled with vague, emotional appeals, such as: "sometimes your flying along, and everything just feels perfect, and you don't wanna stop, but sometimes you've gotta stop, before it's too late". He still is a biker, maybe with some tattoos now. He doesn't talk to Ed anymore, harboring resentment towards everyone he used to know. He wears the half heart necklace under his shirt, and pulls it out and looks at it before committing crimes or skiing down a double black diamond slope.
James also runs drugs for the Pend Oreille County sheriffs department (or maybe Washington state police?). He would like to get out of drugs, but the evil sheriff is blackmailing James, threatening to lock him up for a murder that he didn't even commit. James sleeps with Ronnette Pulaski, who works at the Canadian border, and uses her to move drugs in from Canada. After sex, he asks her about the night Laura died, and she kicks him out. James and Sheriff Briggs occasionally cross paths and exchange hateful stares.
James rides his bike at night and stops at a red light. When it turns green, he just parks and waits for it to turn red again.
I might post more later.
- Hawk is a mall cop in the new mall. Officially he retired from the police following a leg injury, but he later reveals he left to be in the mall full time to keep an eye on "the evil from the woods". Since Glastonbury Grove was torn down as well, and the mall is built on top of it, the mall tends to exhibit random strange occurrences that Hawk tries to steer customers away from. An escalator exists in the exact spot where the original lodge entrance originally was, and is suspected to be the lodge's new entrance. Maybe Hawk's first scene can be him delivering a beautiful monologue about the sublime majesty of mountains and the forest in front of a mall water fountain, then the camera cuts to an impatient mall-goer who says "...but I asked where Yankee Candle is."
He takes long breaks where he stands on the top most floor of the parking garage and stares out at the mountains.
- Andy does caricature paintings/drawings at a kiosk in the mall, and has daily lunches with Hawk in the food court. He is married to Lucy and the father of Andy Jr. He spends his time musing over the hidden meaning of CInnabon's name, mistaking Barnes and Noble for a farm supply store, and make wide-eyed reactions when looking at provocative t-shirts in the window of Hot Topic (or Spencer's). Andy is not consciously aware of "the evil from the wood", but he can depict it in his drawings. His paintings of locations in the mall look like the inside of the Black Lodge, and he can't account for why. He also tries to do paintings of some individuals possessed by Lodge spirits, and he can only paint their inhabiting spirit and not them. Andy's paintings also transform long after he has finished working on them, sometimes reflecting the fate of the subjects. Unbeknownst to Andy, he himself is the new host of The Giant.
In Andy's down time he paints the woods and misses them.
- Shelly is happily married to Bobby, and they have a daughter, Judy Garland Briggs. Shelly is the guidance counselor at Twin Peaks High School, which puts her in a position to have a considerable amount of insight into the kids' lives. She draws upon her own experiences with domestic abuse (and her master's degree in counseling) to to identify troubled students and help them out. When a new murder occurs, she finds herself in the thick of the investigation, as the victim spent a lot of time with her, and the victim was best friends with her daughter Judy. She interviews a lot of students that were affected by the new murder, maybe uncovering some new clues in the process. Shelly is torn between protecting her students and sharing their secrets with Bobby, who is the Sheriff of Twin Peaks.
During lunch Shelly goes into the teacher's lounge, makes instant coffee in the microwave, and holds the mug up to her nose and tries to conjure up memories of Norma and the Double R.
- James is a career criminal. Catherine calls him in for favors when she needs muscle, and he works part time as a ski instructor at Catherine's new ski resort and hotel. He ski instructions are filled with vague, emotional appeals, such as: "sometimes your flying along, and everything just feels perfect, and you don't wanna stop, but sometimes you've gotta stop, before it's too late". He still is a biker, maybe with some tattoos now. He doesn't talk to Ed anymore, harboring resentment towards everyone he used to know. He wears the half heart necklace under his shirt, and pulls it out and looks at it before committing crimes or skiing down a double black diamond slope.
James also runs drugs for the Pend Oreille County sheriffs department (or maybe Washington state police?). He would like to get out of drugs, but the evil sheriff is blackmailing James, threatening to lock him up for a murder that he didn't even commit. James sleeps with Ronnette Pulaski, who works at the Canadian border, and uses her to move drugs in from Canada. After sex, he asks her about the night Laura died, and she kicks him out. James and Sheriff Briggs occasionally cross paths and exchange hateful stares.
James rides his bike at night and stops at a red light. When it turns green, he just parks and waits for it to turn red again.
I might post more later.
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Judy Garland Briggs... 
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I'm not sure I get the original post. Ferrer is in the new series and allegedly has a big role.
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--continued from my late post--
- Bobby Briggs is now the Sheriff of Twin Peaks and married to Shelly Johnson Briggs. They have a daughter together, Judy Garland Briggs, whose name pays tribute to Bobby's late father. Bobby is a street smart cop that can speak to criminals on their own level. He is particularly skilled at breaking criminals down during interrogations and getting them to confess.
Before joining the Twin Peaks police force, Bobby had a brief stint in the Air Force, where he attempted to follow in his father's footsteps. He was a successful pilot, but was discharged for attempting to continue his father's classified work without proper authorization. Sheriff Truman then gave Bobby a job as a deputy out of respect for the deceased Major Briggs. Truman's retirement, coupled with Andy and Hawk's, left Bobby as the most qualified candidate to take over as Sheriff.
Bobby makes a point to always tell his wife and daughter how much he loves them, as his father rarely did that to him.
The Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department is underfunded and understaffed, due in part to Twin Peaks dwindling population in the aftermath of the mill's closing. As such, the Pend Oreille County Sheriff's Department (or maybe it could be the Washington State Police) has taken over the jurisdiction of Twin Peaks' few major crimes that occur, leaving Bobby and his deputies dealing with domestic violence disputes, cats stuck in trees and writing speeding tickets. Every time a potentially big case or major crime occurs in Twin Peaks, the county police take the case away from him. He loves his family, and genuinely enjoys helping out the people of Twin Peaks, but feels stifled by the evil sheriff of Pend Oreille County constantly interfering in his investigations.
Bobby leads the investigation into the new murder. And inevitably, he and James have to team up to take down the evil Pend Oreille County Sheriff.
Sheriff Bobby's first scene could be him and his partner attempting to politely escort an out of control drunk from the Roadhouse. The drunk is belligerent, but Bobby keeps a cool head. Then "Falling" by Julee Cruise comes on the jukebox, and Bobby fights back the tears. The drunk makes a comment about Bobby's mother and Bobby slams his head into the bar, then stomps on him relentlessly until his deputies can restrain him.
- Deputy Andy Brennan Jr. is the son of Andy and Lucy Brennan. A rookie, Sheriff Briggs has taken him under his wing, but Andy Jr. already exhibits a natural policeman's intuition. Whereas Sheriff Briggs is streetwise and impulsive, Deputy Brennan is analytical and can read a crime scene like a dime store romance novel. He is far more calm, composed and confident than either of his parents.
Andy loves his parents, even though his mother, police receptionist Lucy, frequently babies him in front of the other cops. Every time Andy Jr. responds to a call, he has to radio the station to let his mother know he is okay. If anyone teases him about his mother, he shows no embarrassment, and plainly states that at least he has a mother who loves him. In private however, he bickers with Lucy about her treatment of him, constantly reminding her that he's a grown man.
Andy loves his father too, even though he knows that Andy Sr. is not his biological father. Andy Jr. is of mixed race, so neither Andy nor Dick Tremayne is his father. (Maybe Lucy just got some dates wrong in her calendar, and forgot about a quick fling? Either way, Andy Jr. is clearly not Andy Sr.'s son.) Andy Jr. worries that his father doesn't love him because of this, although they have never discussed the topic. Later, Andy Sr. reveals to Andy Jr. that he retired from the force to allow him to develop as a cop on his own, that he didn't want his son to make the same mistakes he made. He tells Andy Jr. that he realized when he was born that he wasn't his, but that it didn't matter, because he knew that he loved him and his mother anyway. This moment where Andy embraces love is the moment he has a vague White Lodge experience and becomes the new host for the Giant.
As Pend Oreille snatches away what few interesting crimes crop up in Twin Peaks, Andy Jr. grows bored with the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department. He is contemplating applying for the FBI. That is, until the new murder occurs...
- Lucy is largely the same and has the same job as she did in the original series. Her son is a deputy, and she makes him bag lunches everyday, and eavesdrops in on his interrogations of female suspects. She incorrectly edits wikipedia articles in her spare time, and catches episodes of Invitation to Love when she can.
I'm thinking Lucy gets to have a big scene where a suspect is being brought in for questioning but steals a deputy's gun and points it at Andy Jr., and she smashes a coffee pot on his head from behind.
- Dr. Jacoby is no longer allowed to legally practice therapy. He now is a distributor of medical marijuana. He makes lots of house visits, and usually ends up smoking most of the medicine. His patients include Sarah Palmer and Johnny Horne, among others.
He visits Laura Palmer's grave, and wonders if he could've anything to save her.
- Harry Truman is retired from the Sheriff's Department and has taken up residence in the Bookhouse with Albert Rosenfield, who has retired from the FBI. They are romantically involved, and have adopted a homeless gay Puerto Rican boy, Oscar Collazo. Truman spends his time reading by the fireplace while Albert applies his scientific knowledge towards making artisinal soaps he sells online or at the Twin Peaks Farmers Market. On occasion Truman ventures into town to check up on older residents, like the Log Lady, who resides in a retirement home and is paranoid that nurses are attempting to take her log. But for the most, Truman has a fairly dull life. He and Albert have found happiness together, and Albert has largely mellowed out, even though his trademark witty anger will pour out if Harry doesn't do the dishes or tracks dirt on the rug. Albert helps Oscar with his math and science homework, and Truman shows Oscar how to go fishing.
The Bookhouse Boys have disbanded, as "the evil in the woods" has seemingly disappeared with the creation of Catherine's mall.
Truman is now diabetic, and Albert closely watches his partner's diet. Harry looks through a bakery's window at fresh donuts, and craves sugar, but mainly he craves the thrill of detective work.
- Audrey Horne is in a wheelchair and believes herself to be a high school girl. She has been this way ever since the bank explosion that killed Andrew Packard and Pete Martell 25 years ago. She still lives in the Great Northern. Every morning Audrey rolls into the lobby and corners a male guest, telling exaggerated tales of her past exploits and positioning her wheelchair directly in his path, not allowing him to escape.
The Great Northern doesn't have as many guests as it used to, as Catherine's new ski resort hotel just outside of town has taken a lot of their business. Also, Ben Horne has been devastated by how his family has turned out, and lost much of his business acumen. Ben's wife and Audrey's mother, Sylvia, left town and divorced Ben after discovering that he fathered Donna Hayward.
Ben spends most of his time being a good father to his young daughter, Laura Horne. Ben attends all of her school functions and does everything he can to be a hands on and loving father, as an attempt to correct the mistakes he made with Johnny and Audrey.
Audrey resents her 'sister' Laura Horne on a deep level. She envies Laura and Ben's relationship. Unbeknownst to anyone but Ben, Laura is Audrey's (and John Wheeler's) daughter. She gave birth to her during the year she was comatose following the bank explosion. When Audrey came to, paralyzed and delusional, Ben thought she was in no state to raise a child, so Ben took it upon himself to raise Laura as his own. Ben also viewed Laura as his redemption.
Occasionally Audrey will hear a jazz song on the radio, and instinctively try to stand up and dance, but she cannot.
And Ben sometimes gazes into the brilliant glow of his fireplace, the urge to do bad boiling inside of him always.
- The Great Northern is in a state of decay. Ben is consumed with being there for his (grand)daughter Laura, Audrey is wheelchair bound and deluded, Johnny Horne regularly performs Indian raids on sleeping guests, and Jerry Horne is as irresponsible and flighty as ever. Animals roam the hallways. Deer, squirrels, possums and pine weasels are all regular fixtures of a night in the Great Northern. The city is constantly trying to get the Great Northern condemned. The Great Northern and Horne's Department Store are on the verge of going out of business, and entrepreneurial homemaker Nadine Hurley is looking to buy them out.
Josie Packard is trapped in the walls of the Great Northern. Female guests see her in the mirror, she walks up behind them and combs their hair and applies their makeup. Anxiety and fear about one's appearance draw her image forth. She gives beauty tips and warnings about BOB-related happenings. She gestures towards male guests with an inviting, 'come hither' gesture, and asks them to save her, but they smash the mirror trying to leap after her.
- Bobby Briggs is now the Sheriff of Twin Peaks and married to Shelly Johnson Briggs. They have a daughter together, Judy Garland Briggs, whose name pays tribute to Bobby's late father. Bobby is a street smart cop that can speak to criminals on their own level. He is particularly skilled at breaking criminals down during interrogations and getting them to confess.
Before joining the Twin Peaks police force, Bobby had a brief stint in the Air Force, where he attempted to follow in his father's footsteps. He was a successful pilot, but was discharged for attempting to continue his father's classified work without proper authorization. Sheriff Truman then gave Bobby a job as a deputy out of respect for the deceased Major Briggs. Truman's retirement, coupled with Andy and Hawk's, left Bobby as the most qualified candidate to take over as Sheriff.
Bobby makes a point to always tell his wife and daughter how much he loves them, as his father rarely did that to him.
The Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department is underfunded and understaffed, due in part to Twin Peaks dwindling population in the aftermath of the mill's closing. As such, the Pend Oreille County Sheriff's Department (or maybe it could be the Washington State Police) has taken over the jurisdiction of Twin Peaks' few major crimes that occur, leaving Bobby and his deputies dealing with domestic violence disputes, cats stuck in trees and writing speeding tickets. Every time a potentially big case or major crime occurs in Twin Peaks, the county police take the case away from him. He loves his family, and genuinely enjoys helping out the people of Twin Peaks, but feels stifled by the evil sheriff of Pend Oreille County constantly interfering in his investigations.
Bobby leads the investigation into the new murder. And inevitably, he and James have to team up to take down the evil Pend Oreille County Sheriff.
Sheriff Bobby's first scene could be him and his partner attempting to politely escort an out of control drunk from the Roadhouse. The drunk is belligerent, but Bobby keeps a cool head. Then "Falling" by Julee Cruise comes on the jukebox, and Bobby fights back the tears. The drunk makes a comment about Bobby's mother and Bobby slams his head into the bar, then stomps on him relentlessly until his deputies can restrain him.
- Deputy Andy Brennan Jr. is the son of Andy and Lucy Brennan. A rookie, Sheriff Briggs has taken him under his wing, but Andy Jr. already exhibits a natural policeman's intuition. Whereas Sheriff Briggs is streetwise and impulsive, Deputy Brennan is analytical and can read a crime scene like a dime store romance novel. He is far more calm, composed and confident than either of his parents.
Andy loves his parents, even though his mother, police receptionist Lucy, frequently babies him in front of the other cops. Every time Andy Jr. responds to a call, he has to radio the station to let his mother know he is okay. If anyone teases him about his mother, he shows no embarrassment, and plainly states that at least he has a mother who loves him. In private however, he bickers with Lucy about her treatment of him, constantly reminding her that he's a grown man.
Andy loves his father too, even though he knows that Andy Sr. is not his biological father. Andy Jr. is of mixed race, so neither Andy nor Dick Tremayne is his father. (Maybe Lucy just got some dates wrong in her calendar, and forgot about a quick fling? Either way, Andy Jr. is clearly not Andy Sr.'s son.) Andy Jr. worries that his father doesn't love him because of this, although they have never discussed the topic. Later, Andy Sr. reveals to Andy Jr. that he retired from the force to allow him to develop as a cop on his own, that he didn't want his son to make the same mistakes he made. He tells Andy Jr. that he realized when he was born that he wasn't his, but that it didn't matter, because he knew that he loved him and his mother anyway. This moment where Andy embraces love is the moment he has a vague White Lodge experience and becomes the new host for the Giant.
As Pend Oreille snatches away what few interesting crimes crop up in Twin Peaks, Andy Jr. grows bored with the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department. He is contemplating applying for the FBI. That is, until the new murder occurs...
- Lucy is largely the same and has the same job as she did in the original series. Her son is a deputy, and she makes him bag lunches everyday, and eavesdrops in on his interrogations of female suspects. She incorrectly edits wikipedia articles in her spare time, and catches episodes of Invitation to Love when she can.
I'm thinking Lucy gets to have a big scene where a suspect is being brought in for questioning but steals a deputy's gun and points it at Andy Jr., and she smashes a coffee pot on his head from behind.
- Dr. Jacoby is no longer allowed to legally practice therapy. He now is a distributor of medical marijuana. He makes lots of house visits, and usually ends up smoking most of the medicine. His patients include Sarah Palmer and Johnny Horne, among others.
He visits Laura Palmer's grave, and wonders if he could've anything to save her.
- Harry Truman is retired from the Sheriff's Department and has taken up residence in the Bookhouse with Albert Rosenfield, who has retired from the FBI. They are romantically involved, and have adopted a homeless gay Puerto Rican boy, Oscar Collazo. Truman spends his time reading by the fireplace while Albert applies his scientific knowledge towards making artisinal soaps he sells online or at the Twin Peaks Farmers Market. On occasion Truman ventures into town to check up on older residents, like the Log Lady, who resides in a retirement home and is paranoid that nurses are attempting to take her log. But for the most, Truman has a fairly dull life. He and Albert have found happiness together, and Albert has largely mellowed out, even though his trademark witty anger will pour out if Harry doesn't do the dishes or tracks dirt on the rug. Albert helps Oscar with his math and science homework, and Truman shows Oscar how to go fishing.
The Bookhouse Boys have disbanded, as "the evil in the woods" has seemingly disappeared with the creation of Catherine's mall.
Truman is now diabetic, and Albert closely watches his partner's diet. Harry looks through a bakery's window at fresh donuts, and craves sugar, but mainly he craves the thrill of detective work.
- Audrey Horne is in a wheelchair and believes herself to be a high school girl. She has been this way ever since the bank explosion that killed Andrew Packard and Pete Martell 25 years ago. She still lives in the Great Northern. Every morning Audrey rolls into the lobby and corners a male guest, telling exaggerated tales of her past exploits and positioning her wheelchair directly in his path, not allowing him to escape.
The Great Northern doesn't have as many guests as it used to, as Catherine's new ski resort hotel just outside of town has taken a lot of their business. Also, Ben Horne has been devastated by how his family has turned out, and lost much of his business acumen. Ben's wife and Audrey's mother, Sylvia, left town and divorced Ben after discovering that he fathered Donna Hayward.
Ben spends most of his time being a good father to his young daughter, Laura Horne. Ben attends all of her school functions and does everything he can to be a hands on and loving father, as an attempt to correct the mistakes he made with Johnny and Audrey.
Audrey resents her 'sister' Laura Horne on a deep level. She envies Laura and Ben's relationship. Unbeknownst to anyone but Ben, Laura is Audrey's (and John Wheeler's) daughter. She gave birth to her during the year she was comatose following the bank explosion. When Audrey came to, paralyzed and delusional, Ben thought she was in no state to raise a child, so Ben took it upon himself to raise Laura as his own. Ben also viewed Laura as his redemption.
Occasionally Audrey will hear a jazz song on the radio, and instinctively try to stand up and dance, but she cannot.
And Ben sometimes gazes into the brilliant glow of his fireplace, the urge to do bad boiling inside of him always.
- The Great Northern is in a state of decay. Ben is consumed with being there for his (grand)daughter Laura, Audrey is wheelchair bound and deluded, Johnny Horne regularly performs Indian raids on sleeping guests, and Jerry Horne is as irresponsible and flighty as ever. Animals roam the hallways. Deer, squirrels, possums and pine weasels are all regular fixtures of a night in the Great Northern. The city is constantly trying to get the Great Northern condemned. The Great Northern and Horne's Department Store are on the verge of going out of business, and entrepreneurial homemaker Nadine Hurley is looking to buy them out.
Josie Packard is trapped in the walls of the Great Northern. Female guests see her in the mirror, she walks up behind them and combs their hair and applies their makeup. Anxiety and fear about one's appearance draw her image forth. She gives beauty tips and warnings about BOB-related happenings. She gestures towards male guests with an inviting, 'come hither' gesture, and asks them to save her, but they smash the mirror trying to leap after her.
Re: Alternate Twin Peaks S3
Damn! That would be a great scene, and so fucked up. Keeping in line with James falling for everyone who looks like or was close to Laura...Cappy wrote:James sleeps with Ronnette Pulaski, who works at the Canadian border, and uses her to move drugs in from Canada. After sex, he asks her about the night Laura died, and she kicks him out.
I also really enjoy the bit about the Great Northern becoming a Grey Gardens esque scene, however Audrey thinking she's in high school is very reminiscent of the Nadine plot in S2.
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Re: Alternate Twin Peaks S3
Love the Ghostwood development! And anything that ends in domestic Harry and Albert works for me 
(although I rather suspect that if they ever got anywhere, they'd burn themselves out over Coop's disappearance much like James and Donna built and destroyed their relationship over Laura's)
I daresay the most unrealistic part of your scenario, Cappy, is that we could have not one but several happy non-dysfunctional couples in a David Lynch work I'm holding out the smallest of hopes for Lucy and Andy come May 21st but I fear for them too...
(although I rather suspect that if they ever got anywhere, they'd burn themselves out over Coop's disappearance much like James and Donna built and destroyed their relationship over Laura's)I daresay the most unrealistic part of your scenario, Cappy, is that we could have not one but several happy non-dysfunctional couples in a David Lynch work
I'm holding out the smallest of hopes for Lucy and Andy come May 21st but I fear for them too...] The gathered are known by their faces of stone.
Re: Alternate Twin Peaks S3
Yeah, maybe her thinking she's in high school is a bit much, and too much like the Nadine thing. I just imagine Audrey to be stuck in the past, trying to re-live her past glory. So maybe she doesn't literally believe she's a high school student.Snailhead wrote: I also really enjoy the bit about the Great Northern becoming a Grey Gardens esque scene, however Audrey thinking she's in high school is very reminiscent of the Nadine plot in S2.
I can totally see her as being a sort of Norma Desmond in a wheelchair type though.
Re: Alternate Twin Peaks S3
laughingpinecone wrote:Love the Ghostwood development! And anything that ends in domestic Harry and Albert works for me
I daresay the most unrealistic part of your scenario, Cappy, is that we could have not one but several happy non-dysfunctional couples in a David Lynch work
That's a good observation about Truman and Albert. Their dynamic might be more interesting if they do get together and adopt a child at some point in time, but circumstances do tear them apart and Truman goes off into the woods and hits the bottle, leaving Albert stuck in Twin Peaks raising a child by himself.
I just really like the idea of Albert being a vocal townie. I imagine he's the loudest concerned citizen at every town hall meeting, and the loudest parent at every PTA meeting. He frequently complains about tourists and out-of-towners, but he himself has only lived there about 20 years at this point.
Maybe Truman lives alone in the Bookhouse. He and Albert's dynamic might actually work better as an on-again-off-again sort of thing. Realistically, I don't know how comfortable Truman's character would be in a relationship with Albert, so I could actually see it taking many years for him to become OK with it and himself.
And maybe Andy and Lucy might be more interesting apart, it would create a more conflicted dynamic for the calm and collected Andy Jr. Maybe Lucy pushes Andy out of the picture entirely, leaving Andy Jr. feeling like his father hates him.
Ultimately I am just a fanboy whose first instinct is to make the characters happy. At the same time though, I do want to see them in situations that really stretch them to their limits and advance their individual arcs.
Re: Alternate Twin Peaks S3
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- Nadine finally invented perfectly silent drape runners, and they are a huge hit. She turned her fortune from that into cookbooks, work out videos, and eventually her own lifestyle brand, One-Eyed Jill's. Confident for the first time in her life, she divorces Ed and buys the Double R from Norma, completely transforming it, making it a health-conscious farm to table restaurant The Northwest Passage. Tourists love it but locals can't afford it, and even if they could, they would not would want to eat "brussel sprouts al dente" and "beet broth". Nadine owns several other pricey restaurants, coffee shops and art galleries around town. One-Eyed Jill products are sold all over the Ghostwood Mall and Horne's Department Store, and across the nation as well. Nadine's goal is to build Nadinewood, a 1950's / rural northwest theme park where female employees all have red hair and eyepatches and male employees all dress like James Dean with Davy Crockett coonskin caps. However, she is having difficulty obtaining a building permit for her park, which might have something to do with Catherine Martell and her political connections.
Nadine is on her fourth husband, Jun Packard, the alleged secret child of Andrew and Josie Packard.
- Catherine is the de facto queen of Twin Peaks, owning most of it's land and wealth. She owns Ghostwood Mall, Ghostwood Estates, Ghostwood Slopes, Ghostwood Country Club, and is in clandestine negotiations with State Senator Milford to acquire state owned land with the intent of mountaintop removal mining on Twin Peaks two most prominent peaks. Having won all of her battles and bested all of her foes, she worries there isn't much left to accomplish. She misses Pete, her brother, and sometimes even Josie. She watches the sunset from the porch of the Blue Pine Lodge. Catherine employs James as muscle when she needs to acquire land or break up a strike on a building project, but she requires his services less and less as the years go by.
With Ben playing (grand)dad of the year, her only enemy left is the newly ascendant Nadine Hurley Packard, who has recently married a man who claims to be the Packards' rightful heir. Catherine wants to believe that Jun Packard is her nephew, but she is too smart to fall for it, and has James look into what his old aunt is planning.
- Ed lives alone and stills runs his Gas Farm. There are things he misses about Nadine, and he still carries a torch for Norma. He hasn't spoken to James in years, but still worries about his nephew. He and Catherine strike up a friendship after her car breaks down near his shop. They went out on a few dates, but had no romantic connection whatsoever. They give each other pertinent life advice on their situations. Ed instructs Catherine on how to deal with Nadine and loneliness, Catherine tells Ed to "grow a pair" and go after Norma. Ed and also fights Catherine over her negative influence on James.
Ed's dalliance with Catherine is enough to push James into Nadine's camp, and he conspires with his aunt to burn down the mall with Catherine and Ed in it. (a big recurring trope/gag is the fact that Nadine makes terrible schemes. She creates this elaborate Jun Packard facade that is obviously false, she thinks that burning down the mall will allow her to build Nadinewood, etc. Her success has gone to her head and lead her to believe that she is a brilliant schemer a la Catherine, but she is not. Nadine makes big plans, they backfire, then she destroys furniture or other random objects with her freakish strength. She's just this big chaotic force that wreaks havoc everywhere she goes. Or maybe there's something about the Black Lodge escalator in the mall that attracts chaos, calls out for fire..?)
- Norma is married to State Senator Dwayne Millford III. After the events of the final episode, where Nadine reverted back to normal and Ed was trapped in his marriage again, Norma began an affair with Dwayne, and when his wife walked in on them one day the original Mrs. Millford had a heart attack and died on the spot. Guilt wracked over having widowed Dwayne and left his children without a mother, she agreed to marry him. Norma lives the life of a politcal wife, photo-ops and speeches at charity events. She charms donors and detractors alike, winning her husband new allies everywhere she goes. Norma enjoys her role at first, but grows to hate having to put a smile on when she feels no joy inside. She occasionally walks in on her husband having phone calls about illegal campaign contributions or selling the state owned mountains to Catherine Martell. Dwayne splits his time between Twin Peaks, the state legislature in Olympia, and his district at large, leaving Norma alone in a big house with a kitchen staff whose cooking stinks. Dwayne's children are all in college or prep schools at this point.
Once, during a campaign fundraiser for her husband's re-election campaign, she got a burst of energy and rushed into the kitchen, pushing the paid catering crew aside and prepared a plethora of pies, donuts, and breakfast food for the six-figure attendees, which sent her husband into a frenzy. She regrets selling the Double R more and more each day.
Dwayne is now running for U.S. Sentate, until his connection to a new murder puts him under scrutiny. Shaken up by the recent tragedy, Norma calls Ed for the first time in years...
- Jun Packard is not really Catherine Martell's nephew. He is just a muscular factory worker from a plant that manufactured Nadine's silent drape runners in rural China. Nadine was impressed by his physique during a factory visit, and had to have him. It was her idea for him to pose as Catherine's nephew. However, Nadine is not a brilliant schemer, and had to marry Jun before she brought him back to Twin Peaks to deceive Catherine. Catherine is not fooled, but her loneliness allows Jun to creep into her life.
Nadine wants to use Jun to somehow get leverage over Catherine so she can get Nadinewood approved and built.
Unknown to Nadine, Jun is having an affair with Audrey Horne, who can stand up and walk around just fine behind closed doors. Audrey plans to wed Jun and take over the whole town, reclaiming the Horne clan's lost glory. She pushes Jun to betray Nadine and place her in the mall fire along with Catherine, but makes sure her guilt wracked father Ben catches wind of the plot, compelling him rush to the mall to save his old nemesis and atone for past sins...
- Nadine finally invented perfectly silent drape runners, and they are a huge hit. She turned her fortune from that into cookbooks, work out videos, and eventually her own lifestyle brand, One-Eyed Jill's. Confident for the first time in her life, she divorces Ed and buys the Double R from Norma, completely transforming it, making it a health-conscious farm to table restaurant The Northwest Passage. Tourists love it but locals can't afford it, and even if they could, they would not would want to eat "brussel sprouts al dente" and "beet broth". Nadine owns several other pricey restaurants, coffee shops and art galleries around town. One-Eyed Jill products are sold all over the Ghostwood Mall and Horne's Department Store, and across the nation as well. Nadine's goal is to build Nadinewood, a 1950's / rural northwest theme park where female employees all have red hair and eyepatches and male employees all dress like James Dean with Davy Crockett coonskin caps. However, she is having difficulty obtaining a building permit for her park, which might have something to do with Catherine Martell and her political connections.
Nadine is on her fourth husband, Jun Packard, the alleged secret child of Andrew and Josie Packard.
- Catherine is the de facto queen of Twin Peaks, owning most of it's land and wealth. She owns Ghostwood Mall, Ghostwood Estates, Ghostwood Slopes, Ghostwood Country Club, and is in clandestine negotiations with State Senator Milford to acquire state owned land with the intent of mountaintop removal mining on Twin Peaks two most prominent peaks. Having won all of her battles and bested all of her foes, she worries there isn't much left to accomplish. She misses Pete, her brother, and sometimes even Josie. She watches the sunset from the porch of the Blue Pine Lodge. Catherine employs James as muscle when she needs to acquire land or break up a strike on a building project, but she requires his services less and less as the years go by.
With Ben playing (grand)dad of the year, her only enemy left is the newly ascendant Nadine Hurley Packard, who has recently married a man who claims to be the Packards' rightful heir. Catherine wants to believe that Jun Packard is her nephew, but she is too smart to fall for it, and has James look into what his old aunt is planning.
- Ed lives alone and stills runs his Gas Farm. There are things he misses about Nadine, and he still carries a torch for Norma. He hasn't spoken to James in years, but still worries about his nephew. He and Catherine strike up a friendship after her car breaks down near his shop. They went out on a few dates, but had no romantic connection whatsoever. They give each other pertinent life advice on their situations. Ed instructs Catherine on how to deal with Nadine and loneliness, Catherine tells Ed to "grow a pair" and go after Norma. Ed and also fights Catherine over her negative influence on James.
Ed's dalliance with Catherine is enough to push James into Nadine's camp, and he conspires with his aunt to burn down the mall with Catherine and Ed in it. (a big recurring trope/gag is the fact that Nadine makes terrible schemes. She creates this elaborate Jun Packard facade that is obviously false, she thinks that burning down the mall will allow her to build Nadinewood, etc. Her success has gone to her head and lead her to believe that she is a brilliant schemer a la Catherine, but she is not. Nadine makes big plans, they backfire, then she destroys furniture or other random objects with her freakish strength. She's just this big chaotic force that wreaks havoc everywhere she goes. Or maybe there's something about the Black Lodge escalator in the mall that attracts chaos, calls out for fire..?)
- Norma is married to State Senator Dwayne Millford III. After the events of the final episode, where Nadine reverted back to normal and Ed was trapped in his marriage again, Norma began an affair with Dwayne, and when his wife walked in on them one day the original Mrs. Millford had a heart attack and died on the spot. Guilt wracked over having widowed Dwayne and left his children without a mother, she agreed to marry him. Norma lives the life of a politcal wife, photo-ops and speeches at charity events. She charms donors and detractors alike, winning her husband new allies everywhere she goes. Norma enjoys her role at first, but grows to hate having to put a smile on when she feels no joy inside. She occasionally walks in on her husband having phone calls about illegal campaign contributions or selling the state owned mountains to Catherine Martell. Dwayne splits his time between Twin Peaks, the state legislature in Olympia, and his district at large, leaving Norma alone in a big house with a kitchen staff whose cooking stinks. Dwayne's children are all in college or prep schools at this point.
Once, during a campaign fundraiser for her husband's re-election campaign, she got a burst of energy and rushed into the kitchen, pushing the paid catering crew aside and prepared a plethora of pies, donuts, and breakfast food for the six-figure attendees, which sent her husband into a frenzy. She regrets selling the Double R more and more each day.
Dwayne is now running for U.S. Sentate, until his connection to a new murder puts him under scrutiny. Shaken up by the recent tragedy, Norma calls Ed for the first time in years...
- Jun Packard is not really Catherine Martell's nephew. He is just a muscular factory worker from a plant that manufactured Nadine's silent drape runners in rural China. Nadine was impressed by his physique during a factory visit, and had to have him. It was her idea for him to pose as Catherine's nephew. However, Nadine is not a brilliant schemer, and had to marry Jun before she brought him back to Twin Peaks to deceive Catherine. Catherine is not fooled, but her loneliness allows Jun to creep into her life.
Nadine wants to use Jun to somehow get leverage over Catherine so she can get Nadinewood approved and built.
Unknown to Nadine, Jun is having an affair with Audrey Horne, who can stand up and walk around just fine behind closed doors. Audrey plans to wed Jun and take over the whole town, reclaiming the Horne clan's lost glory. She pushes Jun to betray Nadine and place her in the mall fire along with Catherine, but makes sure her guilt wracked father Ben catches wind of the plot, compelling him rush to the mall to save his old nemesis and atone for past sins...