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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:11 am
by Audrey Horne
sorry, didn't have time to check out the first season episodes yet. I'll let you know tonight.

The second season episodes are in the same format at the previous release -no previously on, and no freeze frame stills for next time on. Also, full introduction for the opening credits, where the original ones towards the end were abbreviated.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:32 am
by KahlanMnel
I'm about ready to pass out from anticipation of this box set. LOL At first I wasn't too hot on it...more like "Oh, yeah, complete set. I'll buy." But now hearing about how cool the documentaries and interviews are, I'm starting to get anxious for my copy!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:04 am
by Ross
Anyone know of a list of known deleted scenes from the series? I know the FWWM ones. I'm aware of a few- James & his mom, Andy & Lucy buying donuts, and the ones included in the set. (And the alternate Maddy getting killed by Ben scene). I had read once that there really wasn't a whole lot that was shot that didn't make it to the screen. A little in the first season, but after that the writers and crew had pretty much figured out how much material to shoot.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:02 pm
by Audrey Horne
Ross, there's a thread around here somewhere with all the known deleted scenes. Jerry has seen a lot of them I think.

Also, dugpa -there aren't any previously on Twin Peaks or next on Twin Peaks on any of the episodes. *I personally would keep the first season set that was released.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:06 pm
by Jerry Horne
Ross wrote:Anyone know of a list of known deleted scenes from the series? I know the FWWM ones. I'm aware of a few- James & his mom, Andy & Lucy buying donuts, and the ones included in the set. (And the alternate Maddy getting killed by Ben scene). I had read once that there really wasn't a whole lot that was shot that didn't make it to the screen. A little in the first season, but after that the writers and crew had pretty much figured out how much material to shoot.


Does the James & his mom scene exist? Or the Ben kills Maddy scene? I thought these were 'gone' forever?

- Johnny/Audrey/Sylvia/Jacoby scene 'You pushed him down the stairs'
- Johnny/Jacoby 'Shooting Buffalo'
- Shelly/Norma talking by truck (2 angles)
- Leland talks to funeral people on phone
- Lucy/Andy buy donuts
- Donna/James 'The Haywood Light Show'
- Invitation To Love uncut sequence
- Jerry/Heba at roulette
- Jerry/Heba on stairs
- Outside of Palmer residence. Maddy is heard screaming 'Somebody Help Me'
- Jacoby does dance inside office
- Outside shot of Briggs' home w/tank in yard
- Leo jumping off truck
- Cooper/Truman getting out of car and then 'Ducks on the lake'
- Blackie/Audrey at OEJ - 'Just Like Highschool'
- Big Ed and friend inspect Exercise bike
- Leo smashing lightbulb
- Nadine - 'I'm gonna get a good lawyer'
- Pete serves Truman and Josie trout (I can't remember if this a deleted scene or outtake)
- Lucy/Andy in RR talking about raccoons

- At least 20 hrs of bloopers and out-takes

Anyone know of anymore deleted scenes or ones i missed?

I see that Charles de Lauzirika has joined the board. Perhaps he can tell everyone the true story surrounding the deleted scenes issue?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:15 pm
by Ross
Hey Jerry, thanks a lot for posting the scenes! Have you actually seen all these? Have any idea which episodes they belong to?

You should add the James & his mom scene to the list. Seems like its one of the most famous because they tried using it twice, AND its the only deleted scene that's directly mentioned on the show. I really thought this one would be on the DVD.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:12 pm
by Charles de Lauzirika
Jerry Horne wrote:I see that Charles de Lauzirika has joined the board. Perhaps he can tell everyone the true story surrounding the deleted scenes issue?


Soon. :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:22 pm
by Jerry Horne
Charles de Lauzirika wrote:
Jerry Horne wrote:I see that Charles de Lauzirika has joined the board. Perhaps he can tell everyone the true story surrounding the deleted scenes issue?


Soon. :wink:


Right on Charles! Good to have you here. I look foward to it!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:24 pm
by Ross
Jerry Horne wrote:Does the James & his mom scene exist? Or the Ben kills Maddy scene? I thought these were 'gone' forever?


I wouldn't be surprosed if the Ben footage was gone for good at this point- I mean I'm sure the footage of Ben was never edited together into any sort of a scene. (Well, I'm not SURE, but why would it have been?) As for the James scene, it was shot for certain- never heard anyone say that the footage was "lost".

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:36 pm
by Audrey Horne
The Ben scene was edited, color corrected and everything -right up until the end of the due date for delivering the episode to the network. The real ending was given at the last possible moment.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:47 pm
by Ross
Audrey Horne wrote:The Ben scene was edited, color corrected and everything -right up until the end of the due date for delivering the episode to the network. The real ending was given at the last possible moment.


Really? I never knew that (or I've forgotten reading that). Seems like a pretty strange (time-wasting) thing to do since by the time they had to deliver the episode, they would have been well into shooting later episodes where you could see that the killer obviuosly wasn't Ben.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:11 pm
by kingsoprano718
correct me if i am wrong but there were a few weeks of hiatus after the murderer was revealed over holidays that year, also after leland died, there was another month hiatus and Ben was NOT in the two episodes after the murder wrapped up. so they easily could have played it off and had three months of shooting until Ben reappered

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:13 pm
by Ross
kingsoprano718 wrote:correct me if i am wrong but there were a few weeks of hiatus after the murderer was revealed over holidays that year, also after leland died, there was another month hiatus and Ben was NOT in the two episodes after the murder wrapped up. so they easily could have played it off and had three months of shooting until Ben reappered


Yeah, but I don't think those "hiatuses" were actually planned. The show just kept getting preempted it because of low ratings (or whatever reason ABC had).

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:33 pm
by Audrey Horne
okay, I'm a big nerd.

The Audrey rescue through the death of Maddy episodes were aired at the start of November sweeps (it started at the end of October that season) -that's a time when you have you're more explosive storylines for viewers. The Maddy death was followed by the episode where her body is found the next week. Then there was a few weeks until Leland's death in December. This is the norm for television, it isn't a hiatus. Twin Peaks however, never aired repeats during the second season. It followed the normal schedule for television until it was put on hiatus in February. This is when it was uncertain is they would show the last six episodes ordered for the series, some of which had not finished shooting.

*I only know about the Ben Horne finished product because it's on THE NEW DVD (whoo hoo!!)
*I don't know how they were able to do this since most likely that was filmed in late september/early October and following episodes had to have been shot as well. I know the scripts had decoys like Big Ed being the erratic driver instead of Leland (complete with BOB reflection) but don't know if any of these were shot to continue fooling cast and crew.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:35 pm
by Audrey Horne
king, Ben was in all the episodes.