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FWWM sequels

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by dreamshake
My understanding is DL planned on making two sequels to fwwm to complete the story. have any story details made it to the public? I know bob engels has spoken about possible season 3 ideas like the planet of creamed corn or sheriff truman driving backwards through corn fields to rescue cooper.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:42 pm
by Valaquen
Don't quote me on this, but I'm sure I read somewhere, a long time ago, they were intended to explore Philip Jeffries and the Blue Rose unit. I think that's why Lynch included them in FWWM; he'd planned to take those threads and weave something larger. I suppose he eventually got to explore more of that in The Return (Jeffries, Judy, 'the Zone', etc.)

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:49 pm
by dreamshake
I've remember that too but I can't find a source for it.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:20 pm
by AXX°N N.
I'm pretty sure this is a long-standing myth. While it's true that Engels has referred to 'multiple ideas for movies being teased out' I don't think the context was initially alluding to a trilogy, or multiple movies, just that there were ideas thrown out there and what ended up being made was FWWM. I've never been able to track down a source for the supposed series of movies that were planned--I don't think they ever were. The closest I got was Frank Silva saying that if FWWM did well (and it didn't) then more would probably be on the way. So it was more organic than the myth supposes.

I think the idea of a trilogy came because of misinterpreting Lynch receiving a CIBY three pictures deal. That happened around FWWM time, and it was a big news piece. But that wasn't that he was doing three TP pictures--what happened with that was that many years later Lost Highway was the first of those pictures, then the studio took back its contract, and Lynch had to sue them.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:48 pm
by Mr. Reindeer
According to Room to Dream, Ronnie Rocket was initially intended to be the first film on DKL’s three-picture deal with Ciby-2000. DKL ultimately decided to do FWWM instead, then Francis Bouygues passed away. They made LH as number 2, and then they tried to renege on the contract, leading to the lawsuit.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:23 pm
by AXX°N N.
Mr. Reindeer wrote:According to Room to Dream, Ronnie Rocket was initially intended to be the first film on DKL’s three-picture deal with Ciby-2000. DKL ultimately decided to do FWWM instead, then Francis Bouygues passed away. They made LH as number 2, and then they tried to renege on the contract, leading to the lawsuit.

Thanks again for the clarification! I gotta read Room to Dream soon. :)

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:49 pm
by Mr. Reindeer
AXX°N N. wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:According to Room to Dream, Ronnie Rocket was initially intended to be the first film on DKL’s three-picture deal with Ciby-2000. DKL ultimately decided to do FWWM instead, then Francis Bouygues passed away. They made LH as number 2, and then they tried to renege on the contract, leading to the lawsuit.

Thanks again for the clarification! I gotta read Room to Dream soon. :)


Definitely! BTW, as Bowisneski (and the Twin Peaks Unwrapped podcast) have uncovered, Lynch’s chapters in the text book and audiobook are entirely different beasts. While they cover much of the same material and anecdotes, the audiobook was done off the cuff rather than reading from the page...so the wording and details are often different, and he occasionally wanders off and talks about stories that aren’t in the book (or skips over stories that ARE in the book!).

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:19 pm
by AXX°N N.
Mr. Reindeer wrote:
AXX°N N. wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:According to Room to Dream, Ronnie Rocket was initially intended to be the first film on DKL’s three-picture deal with Ciby-2000. DKL ultimately decided to do FWWM instead, then Francis Bouygues passed away. They made LH as number 2, and then they tried to renege on the contract, leading to the lawsuit.

Thanks again for the clarification! I gotta read Room to Dream soon. :)


Definitely! BTW, as Bowisneski (and the Twin Peaks Unwrapped podcast) have uncovered, Lynch’s chapters in the text book and audiobook are entirely different beasts. While they cover much of the same material and anecdotes, the audiobook was done off the cuff rather than reading from the page...so the wording and details are often different, and he occasionally wanders off and talks about stories that aren’t in the book (or skips over stories that ARE in the book!).

Woah! :o Thank you for that. I was going to listen to the audiobook anyway, because Lynch has such a way of saying things, so I'm excited that I'll be getting a whole different experience than a recitation.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:48 am
by dreamshake
thanks for the answers yall. gotta pick up room to dream.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 pm
by TheAlien
It would've been really interesting to see what Lynch and Frost would've produced back then, if they had the right support and funding. Going back to the point in time where The Return didn't exist, there was a lot on the table narrative-wise and much that still was never brought up again (both in the original series and FWWM)

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:40 pm
by krishnanspace
TheAlien wrote:It would've been really interesting to see what Lynch and Frost would've produced back then, if they had the right support and funding. Going back to the point in time where The Return didn't exist, there was a lot on the table narrative-wise and much that still was never brought up again (both in the original series and FWWM)

I would have loved to watch those, especially since FWWM expanded the Twin Peaks Universe

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:03 am
by eyeboogers
TheAlien wrote:It would've been really interesting to see what Lynch and Frost would've produced back then, if they had the right support and funding. Going back to the point in time where The Return didn't exist, there was a lot on the table narrative-wise and much that still was never brought up again (both in the original series and FWWM)


Would have been great with more films. But if I'd had the choice then waiting for the 25 year payoff and Lynch and Frost having reconciled in the "meanwhile" was the better alternative to keeping things going in the mid 90's.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:29 am
by Agent Earle
eyeboogers wrote:
TheAlien wrote:It would've been really interesting to see what Lynch and Frost would've produced back then, if they had the right support and funding. Going back to the point in time where The Return didn't exist, there was a lot on the table narrative-wise and much that still was never brought up again (both in the original series and FWWM)


Would have been great with more films. But if I'd had the choice then waiting for the 25 year payoff and Lynch and Frost having reconciled in the "meanwhile" was the better alternative to keeping things going in the mid 90's.


To each his own, I guess. Myself, I would kill (well, practically :) ) to have the continuation/expansion of the TP universe back then, coming from creators' mindsets as they were back in the first half of the 90's instead of the tepid mess that is The Return. Alas, it wasn't meant to be. Still, one can dream ...

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:41 pm
by baxter
I liked the return, but I still have the nagging feeling that a continuation in the 90s would have been great. Something about the style of the return still makes it hard to square with being in the same universe to me.

Of course, back in the day Kyle would have been out probably, so it would have been very different.

Re: FWWM sequels

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:45 pm
by TheAlien
Initially, the mysterious introduction of Jefferies (and Chester Desmond's disappearance too, to a lesser extent) really opened the floodgates in a way but the big gap between FWWM and The Return really closed off many possibilities, from my perception.
The movie sequels or even further seasons if FWWM had initially gotten a far more enthusiastic reaction when it premiered, would have really been something possibly more grander, as FWWM was really reaching for something it wanted to arrive at.
Regardless, what we got with The Return remains many of my favorite parts in all of David Lynch's career, so I can't really complain about that! :P

The looming question of 1991 Jefferies remains though (in alternative history, where S3 and many of Lynch's 90s films never happened...)