Part 5 - Case files (SPOILERS)

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Re: Part 5 - Case files (SPOILERS)

Postby claaa7 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:05 pm

ThumbsUp wrote:I just rewatched this episode and need help.

Spoiler:
1. Why was Briggs' prints found 16 times ("where this time?")? Did he physically teleport a lot while in the Lodge?

2. The Laura/Fireman creation music plays while Dougie is crying at Sonny Jim. It played when Coop says goodbye to them in part 16 as well. Maybe it's a family theme? (Coop/Janey-E/Sonny Jim and Fireman/Senortia Dido/Laura?)

3. Steven didn't have a blue rose on his tie did he?

4. I think it's suggested that Norma would often shell out money to Shelly back in the day.

5. Still don't understand the Argentina box.


mods - do we really need the spoilers at this point? the sub-forum is called "Season 3: The Return (Spoilers)".. anyway here are my thoughts on your first two questions.

Spoiler:
1. my interpretation is that shortly after the events of TSHoTP and Mister C visting Briggs at his station he returned to The White Lodge / The Zone to hide out or "hibernate" as he called it. time moves differently in there which is why he hadn't aged for all those years when the Woodsmen finally catched up to him and killed him after Ruth Davenport and Bill accidentally had led them to him... remember that Briggs, Cooper and Cole had formulated a plan where they were going to find JUDY and destroy it. as someone else here suggested perhaps Briggs left his fingerprints on known crime scenes during this time as a message to Gordon Cole to let him know that he was still A-OK. it could also be that his work to find JUDY led him to these crime scenes.

2. i haven't rewatched Part 5 in some time but i'm pretty positive that it's actually the "Accident / Farewell Theme" that is being played over that scene with Sonny Jim in the car. as you say it is also played in the farewell scene at the casino, but also during the child dying in front of his mother in ep. 6 and the death of, and eulogy for, Margaret Lanterman. as such it is a theme of deep loss, grief and departure, so in this scene it works as foreshadowing the moment to come in ep. 16. it's like Cooper knows that this is not his real child and family and knows that he must leave them behind.
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Re: Part 5 - Case files (SPOILERS)

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:34 pm

kuprin82 wrote:
Qubism wrote:Anyone able to say more about the statue?

It really reminds me of a giant version of a 1 32nd scale green plastic soldier that I used to play with in the 1970s..... that exact pose...

The uniform seems to be the US army Vietnam era OG 107 Cotton Sateen Utility Uniform:
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I WISH OG 107 stood for Original Gangster, but in this context it is Olive Green!
So why is this seemingly Vietnam era statue at Dougie's workplace and why is Coop so struck by it?
Anyone remember anything about Coop's father from My Life My Tapes?


))))))) This is James Stewart from the movie "The FBI Story" (1959)!)
(John Michael ('Chip') Hardesty (James Stewart) narrates the story of a murder, which the viewer sees in a....(!)FLASHBACK(!). Young Jack Graham (Nick Adams), takes out life insurance on his mother and plants a bomb in her luggage for a flight that she was taking from Denver, Colorado, to Portland, Oregon, November 1, 1955)
P.S.:
The Autobiography - of - F.B.I. Special Agent Dale Cooper My Life, My Tapes
As heard by Scott Frost
"...Above my bed on the wall is my most important personal item, a poster of.......(!) Jimmy Stewart......(!)... in the movie The FBI Story which only I can touch. I am talking into a Norelco B2000 reel-to-reel tape-playing recorder that I received as a Christmas present. I gave Dad a bottle of Old Spice and a pair of Totes, and Mom a nonstick spatula set..."



DKL appears to have shut this theory down in a recent interview: http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/dougies- ... nd-it.html

He says the statue was inspired by a “selfie” his dad took, and he expresses disappointment that the statue didn’t look more like his dad.

Maybe a rogue propmaker/TP fanatic was responsible for the FBI Story parallel without DKL’s blessing or knowledge?
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Re: Part 5 - Case files (SPOILERS)

Postby Xavi » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:00 pm

Mr. Reindeer wrote:DKL appears to have shut this theory down in a recent interview: http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/dougies- ... nd-it.html

He says the statue was inspired by a “selfie” his dad took, and he expresses disappointment that the statue didn’t look more like his dad.

Maybe a rogue propmaker/TP fanatic was responsible for the FBI Story parallel without DKL’s blessing or knowledge?


So, what's the meaning now we know that it had to look like his dad?

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