Part 5 - Case files (SPOILERS)

[N. Needleman]

AFAIC the ladies are there. Simply filmed separately. Wait and see, I suppose.

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you really watched the scene? if they are supose to be REALLY there, then, there's an awfull error in the editing, because they are NOT in there with the rest,.... and i dont think this is at all a mistake

Yes. I watched the scene and disagree with your assessment. I guess we'll see.

[polishq]

AFAIC the ladies are there. Simply filmed separately. Wait and see, I suppose.

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you really watched the scene? if they are supose to be REALLY there, then, there's an awfull error in the editing, because they are NOT in there with the rest,.... and i dont think this is at all a mistake

Couldn't the girls be standing against the wall opposite from the door? We never see that wall in the shots of Belushi & co.

[N. Needleman]

Yep.

[Cappy]

Don't tell me we're going to be discussing what's in Harvey's black bag 25 years from now?

Is it the dossier? If so, do they realize it's importance?

Harvey might some sort of One-Armed Man type figure, collecting garmonbozia (or something Lodge-related) from near the scene of the murder.

The way he complained to Chip on the phone, over the ownership of the bag, it really reminded me of Phillip Gerard pulling beside Leland's car in FWWM and shouting at him...

Either way I loved Harvey and hope he pops up again.

[Leebob]

AFAIC the ladies are there. Simply filmed separately. Wait and see, I suppose.

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you really watched the scene? if they are supose to be REALLY there, then, there's an awfull error in the editing, because they are NOT in there with the rest,.... and i dont think this is at all a mistake

Yes. I watched the scene and disagree with your assessment. I guess we'll see.

If forced to weigh in at this point in time, I tend to agree with Needleman's interpretation - but as he said - "I guess we'll see".

[Cappy]

Couldn't the girls be standing against the wall opposite from the door? We never see that wall in the shots of Belushi & co.

That is one weird thing that Lynch always does -- he frequently doesn't use establishing shots for scenes, so often times you can't tell where different people and elements are in relation to one another.

It's like in the pilot, when Lucy first gets Pete's phone call, and starts talking to Truman about it. Lucy is going on and on about something to Harry, and you never even know if they are in the same room or a whole hallway apart (until Harry walks into Lucy's shot, anyway). I can't think of another director that doesn't this. It's a pretty small detail, but it can really work to heighten tension and increase comedic effect.

[Jerry Horne]

Don't tell me we're going to be discussing what's in Harvey's black bag 25 years from now?

Is it the dossier? If so, do they realize it's importance?

Harvey might some sort of One-Armed Man type figure, collecting garmonbozia (or something Lodge-related) from near the scene of the murder.

The way he complained to Chip on the phone, over the ownership of the bag, it really reminded me of Phillip Gerard pulling beside Leland's car in FWWM and shouting at him...

Either way I loved Harvey and hope he pops up again.

Agree, great character! Love how Lynch ends that scene with the phone cutting out...or something? Electricity?

[secretlettermkr]

Couldn't the girls be standing against the wall opposite from the door? We never see that wall in the shots of Belushi & co.

That is one weird thing that Lynch always does -- he frequently doesn't use establishing shots for scenes, so often times you can't tell where different people and elements are in relation to one another.

It's like in the pilot, when Lucy first gets Pete's phone call, and starts talking to Truman about it. Lucy is going on and on about something to Harry, and you never even know if they are in the same room or a whole hallway apart (until Harry walks into Lucy's shot, anyway). I can't think of another director that doesn't this. It's a pretty small detail, but it can really work to heighten tension and increase comedic effect.

And the guards by the door?

[Leebob]

...And the guards by the door?

yea - the lack of any guards by the door as the showgirl enters is a pretty stark continuity error. But I think it's possible, after the initial scene was filmed, Lynch thought something akin to "..gee, I should add in some showgirls who seem oblivious to the violence and one waves a hand mysteriously." And the guards were unavailable at the time of filming the showgirl material.

[counterpaul]

AFAIC the ladies are there. Simply filmed separately. Wait and see, I suppose.

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you really watched the scene? if they are supose to be REALLY there, then, there's an awfull error in the editing, because they are NOT in there with the rest,.... and i dont think this is at all a mistake

It's beautifully unsettling, from the moment Candie opens the door of what appears to be an otherwise empty room. It's not a plot thing--I'll eat my hat if we end up finding out that the women in pink are spirits or some such--it's a mood thing. They act as counterpoint to the violence and posturing going on in the scene and add an air of the uncanny. Why try to rationalize it? Twin Peaks isn't rational. What a scrumptious thing those cut-aways are!

[KyleRickards]

What were those shady characters looking for at the apartment building in Buckhorn?

Why did Ruth have a book called Indian Heritage on her bookshelf?

Is Bad Coop looking for the Dossier?

Shelly is involved with Red?

Which shady characters?


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Harvey. I should have said character not characters.

Ah thank you!


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[secretlettermkr]

AFAIC the ladies are there. Simply filmed separately. Wait and see, I suppose.

???
you really watched the scene? if they are supose to be REALLY there, then, there's an awfull error in the editing, because they are NOT in there with the rest,.... and i dont think this is at all a mistake

It's beautifully unsettling, from the moment Candie opens the door of what appears to be an otherwise empty room. It's not a plot thing--I'll eat my hat if we end up finding out that the women in pink are spirits or some such--it's a mood thing. They act as counterpoint to the violence and posturing going on in the scene and add an air of the uncanny. Why try to rationalize it? Twin Peaks isn't rational. What a scrumptious thing those cut-aways are!

this is not "rationalize",,, its an observation of a very obvious thing, if the intention wasnt to imply something off w these girls,... Lynch could have shot it or edited diferently,
Again, i dont think for SURE im right, i only think its heading more that way, a friend of mine notice this, i didnt, he dont even mentioned what he saw, only point me too look at the scene again, and there it was, i cant unseen it now.... we'll see or maybe not,.... we'll see who candy is.... I dont think linch just trowed Amy Shields character in there at the last minute

[Twink Peaks]

TWIN PEAKS PART 5 - PERFECT BLUE

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love satoshi kon!!!!!!

[secretlettermkr]

TWIN PEAKS PART 5 - PERFECT BLUE

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love satoshi kon!!!!!!

me too, PARANOIA AGENT! WHAT A SERIES!!!

[counterpaul]

It's beautifully unsettling, from the moment Candie opens the door of what appears to be an otherwise empty room. It's not a plot thing--I'll eat my hat if we end up finding out that the women in pink are spirits or some such--it's a mood thing. They act as counterpoint to the violence and posturing going on in the scene and add an air of the uncanny. Why try to rationalize it? Twin Peaks isn't rational. What a scrumptious thing those cut-aways are!

this is not "rationalize",,, its an observation of a very obvious thing, if the intention wasnt to imply something off w these girls,... Lynch could have shot it or edited diferently

I'm not saying it was accidental on Lynch's part--of course, it was completely intentional. It's a meticulously constructed scene. And, yes, absolutely something is off. The observation that the women in pink seem to be in an empty room, and that their coverage doesn't jibe with any of the other shots in the scene is 100% accurate.

What I'm saying is that creating this feeling of things being off is the entire point of shooting and cutting the scene this way. It's about creating mood. It needs no plot justification. That's the rationalizing I was referring to--trying to come up with ways to take something beautifully uncanny and force it to make "sense." That, I maintain, is completely missing the point.