Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Agent Earle » Thu May 25, 2017 2:30 pm

mtwentz wrote:
Agent Earle wrote:Come on. It was like watching a couple of dimwits blabbering nonsense to fritter the (run)time away. I know it's Lynch but it's also supposed to be Peaks. Yeah, yeah, I get it, this is not some nostalgic rehash, but I still find the scene AWFUL. So shoot me.


They were not blathering nonsense. They were setting up the characters as to where they are today. To summarize:

-Ben is till running the great hotel and has hired an attractive assistant. He denies having sex with her, but there may be something there.

-Jerry is running a marijuana edibles company.

-There is a customer form New York who has lodged a complain, and is comped by Ben for two days. This may or may not be connected to the mysterious billionaire in New York.

It did not stick out to me as good a scene as the brie sandwiches or smoked cheese pig scene, but it was mildly amusing. Certainly not awful in my opinion. The real test is where it leads next.


Okay, I admit you might be on to something here. It's too early to tell. I didn't like the scene at all but will reappraise it if the series gives me reason(s) to do so. Same thing with the New York City scene(s) and that horrible (and I don't mean it in a good way) CGI-ed alien-like thingamy - I've seen better effects in a third-rate, bottom-of-the-barrel, direct-to-video horror flick...
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Thu May 25, 2017 2:50 pm

Agent Earle wrote:
mtwentz wrote:
Agent Earle wrote:Come on. It was like watching a couple of dimwits blabbering nonsense to fritter the (run)time away. I know it's Lynch but it's also supposed to be Peaks. Yeah, yeah, I get it, this is not some nostalgic rehash, but I still find the scene AWFUL. So shoot me.


They were not blathering nonsense. They were setting up the characters as to where they are today. To summarize:

-Ben is till running the great hotel and has hired an attractive assistant. He denies having sex with her, but there may be something there.

-Jerry is running a marijuana edibles company.

-There is a customer form New York who has lodged a complain, and is comped by Ben for two days. This may or may not be connected to the mysterious billionaire in New York.

It did not stick out to me as good a scene as the brie sandwiches or smoked cheese pig scene, but it was mildly amusing. Certainly not awful in my opinion. The real test is where it leads next.


Okay, I admit you might be on to something here. It's too early to tell. I didn't like the scene at all but will reappraise it if the series gives me reason(s) to do so. Same thing with the New York City scene(s) and that horrible (and I don't mean it in a good way) CGI-ed alien-like thingamy - I've seen better effects in a third-rate, bottom-of-the-barrel, direct-to-video horror flick...


It's Lynch... he ain't famous for CGI :)


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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (Spoilers)

Postby windh » Thu May 25, 2017 2:52 pm

adl345 wrote:
happyrat98 wrote:But then I read a theory, watched episode 4, and suddenly I think I'm in love.

The doppelganger stated that he had a plan to avoid the lodge. Dougie Jones is a second doppelganger created by the first doppelganger. Instead of the doppelganger, Dougie ends up going back to the lodge. The doppelganger created Dougie Jones, who presumably was leading an actual life, in order to avoid returning to the lodge. Mike tells Dougie that he is created for a purpose that has failed. Dougie then ceases to exist and the real Dale returns to reality, but he is not whole because the real doppelganger still exists. Hence, Mike tells Cooper that one of them must die and that he had been tricked.

That's meant to be a theory? I think it's pretty much explicitly explained, in-show story at this point.


My thought exactly..
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Elric99 » Thu May 25, 2017 3:41 pm

The dog leg they found in bad Coop's car - is it by chance a front-left leg? Similar to the numb left arm phenomena?
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Deep Thought » Thu May 25, 2017 3:56 pm

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Dom834 wrote:
firefly2193 wrote:Hi guys, I just read this (great) article on the new Twin Peaks, and at the end it has this bit on how Audrey turns up at the end of episode 4?


He wrote that episode 4 concluded without Audrey making an appearance.


Amazing how you can read something multiple times and still read what you *think* is written and not what's actually there! Idiot me.


"Can you leave us please?" . . .

"Uh, Jim."

An excellent summation of an important aspect of all 3 seasons. Did you have this planned out? :wink: :wink:

I'm guessing you would look at Dougie and see a normal (if slightly off) suburban dork. Or maybe you would be more like the old woman in the casino who sees what is in front of her eyes.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby rocketsan22 » Thu May 25, 2017 4:39 pm

What's up with the handyman the cops go to find for the keys?

That actor looks familiar...
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby John Justice Wheeler » Thu May 25, 2017 5:07 pm

rocketsan22 wrote:What's up with the handyman the cops go to find for the keys?

That actor looks familiar...

That's Max Perlich, a character actor who has been in many things.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby GhostyTMRS » Thu May 25, 2017 5:12 pm

N. Needleman wrote:
bob_wooler wrote:
Odnetnin wrote:Literally my favorite scene set in the town thus far. R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Is that mother's hat? :lol: priceless.


I fucking loved it. They sounded the same as ever - speechifying as always.


Indeed!

Longtime lurker. First time poster (I think).

I can understand and sympathize with others who feel that there are elements to the new show that are not in the spirit of the original Twin Peaks, are poorly realized, etc.
Personally, I'm loving it. Everything that I heard about beforehand and dreaded (Las Vegas, casting choices) I am totally on board with.
But to me that scene with Ben and Jerry was classic Twin Peaks, and so far it was the scene most reminiscent of the writing and acting in the original show. The only crime here is that it wasn't longer.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (Spoilers)

Postby ThumbsUp » Thu May 25, 2017 5:13 pm

Ubermensch33 wrote:I do think something is going on with Lucy - some kind of mental disorder/dementia.


Same. Especially with Andy saying that she forgets that cell phones exist over and over again and neither of them understands why, and he kinda makes it sound like it's a semi-recent development.

For the Cera thing, everyone I was in the room with was laughing. I thought it was funny and bought Wally as a character and Cera fits. This is the same show that had people like Nadine Hurley and Dick Tremayne after all.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby ThumbsUp » Thu May 25, 2017 5:17 pm

Oh, one thing I had a hard time believing was that apparently barely anyone in town, even the law enforcement, knew that Cooper was the last person Briggs saw alive. And then he dies in a fire the next day? Fishy, and I was surprised that Hawk was surprised, or that Bobby had never told anyone.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby wxray » Thu May 25, 2017 5:44 pm

ThumbsUp wrote:Oh, one thing I had a hard time believing was that apparently barely anyone in town, even the law enforcement, knew that Cooper was the last person Briggs saw alive. And then he dies in a fire the next day? Fishy, and I was surprised that Hawk was surprised, or that Bobby had never told anyone.

Bobby was laying low, after all, he just killed a guy*.

And perhaps the rest of the town just had so much trauma, things got lost. You know, teens dying in various and sundry ways, including being encased in a chess piece, mills burning, Miss Twin Peaks pageant chaos, Robin Lively distracting every man on earth, etc.

* - HOW did Bobby get a law enforcement job after his crime? Will we find out? Was the body never found? After all, they guy is from Oregon, so that's all the way across WA state. Or maybe he was charged with manslaughter and got a good lawyer?
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby ThumbsUp » Thu May 25, 2017 6:12 pm

God, these episodes are even better the second time. Just finished my re-watch... I found Preston less annoying this go-around, and that scene with her, Gordon, Albert and Evil Coop way more terrifying for some reason. Props to MacLachlan, who's doing a great job anchoring this piece, swinging between Evil Coop, Catatonic Coop and who knows what else in coming eps.

Also, did we decide who the "1-1-9" woman is? Reddit is saying that she's supposed to mirror the events in the Purple Room in the prior scene.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby rocketsan22 » Thu May 25, 2017 6:22 pm

John Justice Wheeler wrote:
rocketsan22 wrote:What's up with the handyman the cops go to find for the keys?

That actor looks familiar...

That's Max Perlich, a character actor who has been in many things.

K, so what's up with that character? Sketchy...

And why does Renault look like a holographic image at the Roadhouse?
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Thu May 25, 2017 7:29 pm

ThumbsUp wrote:God, these episodes are even better the second time. Just finished my re-watch... I found Preston less annoying this go-around, and that scene with her, Gordon, Albert and Evil Coop way more terrifying for some reason. Props to MacLachlan, who's doing a great job anchoring this piece, swinging between Evil Coop, Catatonic Coop and who knows what else in coming eps.

Also, did we decide who the "1-1-9" woman is? Reddit is saying that she's supposed to mirror the events in the Purple Room in the prior scene.


From wiki:
"119 in France is a free emergency number for beaten children."

Considering the scene, with an addict and a poor kid it might make sense. I also read somewhere that France is somewhat in the story.


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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Smiling Bag » Thu May 25, 2017 7:36 pm

This may have been mentioned but regarding the "3" and the "15". If we take 1991 as the starting point (When Laura gave cooper the 25 years later message in real world time). Maybe there is a thing that every 25 years you can go in or/out BUT in half that cycle (every 12 iish) years you can go back to that. SO, he wanted to go out in "15", (2015), but the blind lady either is malevolent or did now want him showing up "born again" with Evil Coop as clearly Evil Coop would take out DroolCoop. SO, there is a rule that you can go "back" half the cycle which would be 200"3".

I have had wine and am making this shit up, but roughly if you assume there are full 25 year cycles and some "tricks" at the halfway point, that would make 2003 an important possibility. (Jupiter and Saturn in the opposite of conjunction etc.).


Like someone else said, by the end of Episode 5 this may all be moot.

How blessed we are to "anticipate" what hasn't occurred yet vs. 26 years of over analyzing what had occurred already.

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