Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby mine » Sun May 28, 2017 8:59 am

The card looks like some sort of a shade of a Joker's head. I wonder what meaning it has. A Joker drawn on a regular card is a paradox in a way.
I wonder if the number on the back of the socket means that there is a right and wrong one to travel through.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Sun May 28, 2017 9:06 am

Leebob wrote:
Sergey wrote:1-1-9 = 911 (help, SOS) pin, playing cards.
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playing cards - Trail of a pin.
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Very interesting - amazing you picked this out! Seems to be another indicator that Good Coop my be in an earlier timeline than Bad Coop.

Sergey - I see you can obtain some screen caps with pretty high resolution - any chance you can get a better image of the DUGE LV licens plate to help confirm it has a 2003 sticker?.

Image I previously posted:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3400&p=81794#p81794
Some of my additional thoughts on the 2003 timeline theory.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3400&p=81811#p81811


I second the request for the plates' screen caps in high definition.



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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby twin-b » Sun May 28, 2017 9:16 am

crash_and_burn wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:
crash_and_burn wrote:
This is exactly the point I was trying to make. I think Gordon knows that Albert is still hiding something. The first time he says "Albert" it's shock, the second time it's disappointment, the third time, it's almost as if he has added his name to a list of those that can't be trusted.

He says "Albert" with what seems to be reluctant acceptance of where they both stand, yet Gordon also knows he can't let Albert know that he suspects him of anything, he will probably share this only with Tammy and only insinuate that she needs to keep her eyes on EVERYONE from here on out.

I'll stand by this, Albert is up to no good.


But based on what Albert is seemingly confessing to here, Gordon should have suspended him on the spot pending investigation. I sort of feel the opposite of you -- that Albert and Gordon have more information than the audience, and there's some reason the behavior Albert is confessing to isn't as serious a breach of security as it appears.


That's a valid point. Frankly, I hope you're right, because I love Albert and don't want to see him go bad.

I don't want Albert to be bad either. But I just watched the prison scene again and definitely see how people susepct it. Bad Coop only acknowledges Albert when he said, "I've left messages." And then when he continues and says, "Messages so Phillip knows it's safe" Albert looks down. Is he just showing guilt about the Columbia incident or does it have something to do with the communications between Bad Coop/ Jeffries/voice on the phone in teh hotel room?

I don't know what Albert mouths when he first sees Bad Coop but it didn't look like "Bob" to me.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby OneEyedJack » Sun May 28, 2017 9:48 am

Gordon meets Denise at the FBI office. He sits down and while he waits he sees a bouquet of flowers in the chair beside him.

Who brought the flowers to Denise's office? While Gordon was waiting was Denise's meeting in the office with the person who brought flowers? Was it sexual (and hence Denise fanning off at the end of scene)?

Denise also knows Tammy is joining Gordon on the trip to SD but has to ask if Albert is joining him. Any reason why?
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby droolcup » Sun May 28, 2017 10:13 am

Leebob wrote:Some of my additional thoughts on the 2003 timeline theory.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3400&p=81811#p81811


Very interesting. I wonder if the lever in the mauve world is what causes time to alter to 2003? If that is the case, then maybe 'American Girl' is the past version of Naido? Naido's mother gets through the door after Cooper goes through the #3 electrical machine, and cuts out American Girl's eyes as punishment for helping Cooper?

Sorry if this has been previously discussed!
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby wxray » Sun May 28, 2017 10:35 am

I so very much love the 2003 theory, and I am NOT going to stomp on it. I'm going to assume a bad job by the prop/set dressers for now. But I do have to throw some caution into it. This time, prepared with some screen shots.

1) VAPING. No vaping in 2003. But maybe it is a "hollywood trick" and hope we don't notice. Find Vapeman at 50:30 in the stream:
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2) Jeep Wrangler. The round vents appeared in 2006. That's the earliest we can assume Jade's car is (other cues such as the larger size of the circle vents actually hint at a much newer model). Find Jade's Jeep at 31:26:
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Compare with 2005(left) and 2006(right) models:

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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Gordon » Sun May 28, 2017 11:10 am

Maybe someone has a better screenshot, but it sure looks like a "03" to me...
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Sun May 28, 2017 11:12 am

Gordon wrote:Maybe someone has a better screenshot, but it sure looks like a "03" to me...


That's the month.
The year is on the right side, vertical


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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Gordon » Sun May 28, 2017 11:14 am

yaxomoxay wrote:
Gordon wrote:Maybe someone has a better screenshot, but it sure looks like a "03" to me...


That's the month.
The year is on the right side, vertical


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Ah, crap, you're right... Is that the best shot of the license plate? Or is there a better closeup? I took it from the scene where Jade and Coop leave...
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Sun May 28, 2017 11:18 am

Gordon wrote:
yaxomoxay wrote:
Gordon wrote:Maybe someone has a better screenshot, but it sure looks like a "03" to me...


That's the month.
The year is on the right side, vertical


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Ah, crap, you're right... Is that the best shot of the license plate? Or is there a better closeup? I took it from the scene where Jade and Coop leave...


Can't find any HD picture of the plate :(


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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Sergey » Sun May 28, 2017 11:21 am

Leebob wrote:
Sergey wrote:
Sergey - I see you can obtain some screen caps with pretty high resolution - any chance you can get a better image of the DUGE LV licens plate to help confirm it has a 2003 sticker?.

Leebob - Sorry, no chance for a better image of the license plate.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Soolsma » Sun May 28, 2017 11:25 am

Not buying the 2003 thing. I like to think that if Coop went through the 15 machine there would have been 15 Coopers.
I believe all these phenomena that our putted-up egos and busy ant minds persist in trying to label, categorize, penetrate, and comphrehend, all spring from this same uncanny source. This is the mother of all "others".
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Jerry Horne » Sun May 28, 2017 11:28 am

During the original run, Lynch said in an interview that the official beer of the Roadhouse is Leinenkugel's. You can see boxes and bottles in a few scenes but it's tough to spot.

Edit - Just remembered that it was a member of the Prop Dept. that told me that was what Lynch said.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby Sergey » Sun May 28, 2017 11:30 am

StrangerDanger wrote:Wow that's a good one. What do you think it means, about the card, is that a Donnie Darko silhouette of an evil rabbit? Who is that crazy woman? Is the white powder on her table = drugs?



The cards and the pin are somehow connected to the evil rabbit card. Possibly the image of the evil rabbit is connected to this one :

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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby krishnanspace » Sun May 28, 2017 11:32 am

What has happened to Annie?The Book has omitted her,the show has made no mention of her.Even Heather Graham wanted to be in the new season.What happened to Annie?

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