Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby Cappy » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:03 pm

Something about the audio in the Purple Room sequence rung a familiar bell to me. Specifically the ominous, low background sound as Cooper approached the no. 3 electrical outlet. Maybe this is just me, but that sound was very close to the slowed down version of Sarah Palmer saying "Laura" used at the beginning of Cooper's dream from the original series.

Did anyone else find these two sounds to be similar? It's really forced me to consider that American Girl's line "you'd better hurry/my mother's coming" might be some sort of reference to Sara & Laura somehow. I'm still not sure what to make of the whole Purple Room sequence, aside from it being sort of a call center of the astral plane, where souls are re-routed and re-directed to bodies on earth. I think so, anyway.
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby kafa81 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:28 pm

Coop got 5 dollars in change for gambling at the casino....how exactly did he win 29 jackpots if he received 20 quarters(5 dollars) if he doesn't ever take any of the winnings with him? At least I didn't notice him taking any of the winnings with him, he just gets up and leaves the machine and heads to another one....and the machines say 25c ..... Just thinking if there is more to this DOUGIECOOP Dream/Manufactured Reality etc... scenario that people are discussing on podcasts... :?:
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby Skip Bittman » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:20 pm

kafa81 wrote:Coop got 5 dollars in change for gambling at the casino....how exactly did he win 29 jackpots if he received 20 quarters(5 dollars) if he doesn't ever take any of the winnings with him? At least I didn't notice him taking any of the winnings with him, he just gets up and leaves the machine and heads to another one....and the machines say 25c ..... Just thinking if there is more to this DOUGIECOOP Dream/Manufactured Reality etc... scenario that people are discussing on podcasts... :?:


Because as one of the mgmt mentioned, the jackpots he's winning are WAY more money than a pile of quarters and are paid out by the casino staff.
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:32 pm

kafa81 wrote:Coop got 5 dollars in change for gambling at the casino....how exactly did he win 29 jackpots if he received 20 quarters(5 dollars) if he doesn't ever take any of the winnings with him? At least I didn't notice him taking any of the winnings with him, he just gets up and leaves the machine and heads to another one....and the machines say 25c ..... Just thinking if there is more to this DOUGIECOOP Dream/Manufactured Reality etc... scenario that people are discussing on podcasts... :?:


We don't know how many of the 30 jackpots were actually won by the slot-addict woman--at least two (we know the floor attendant played by Sabrina Sutherland was counting her wins as part of Coop's spree). It's also totally possibly that Coop grabbed a handful of quarters at some point. It's even possible that a few quarters landed in his bucket by accident as they were flying around. Many options before a dream/manufactured reality option becomes the most likely.
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby MrSmith » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:18 am

Apologies if this has bought up before but has anyone noticed that Andy points at and is about to say something about the ripped pages from Laura's diary before Hawk cuts him off? 'Don't say a thing.'
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby claaa7 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:43 am

MrSmith wrote:Apologies if this has bought up before but has anyone noticed that Andy points at and is about to say something about the ripped pages from Laura's diary before Hawk cuts him off? 'Don't say a thing.'


in which scene is that? didn't catch that
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby MrSmith » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:56 am

claaa7 wrote:
MrSmith wrote:Apologies if this has bought up before but has anyone noticed that Andy points at and is about to say something about the ripped pages from Laura's diary before Hawk cuts him off? 'Don't say a thing.'


in which scene is that? didn't catch that



10 seconds or so before the bunny freakout.
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby claaa7 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:53 am

a random thought that popped in my head..

Albert, at the end of Pt. 4, says about his phone call with Jeffries something along the lines of "He said it was urgent. He said he need the information urgently".. could it be that the first line (unknown to Albert) is actually "He said it was ARGENT", again connecting Jeffries with Buenos Aires and that strange metallic box?
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby KyleRickards » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:42 am

claaa7 wrote:a random thought that popped in my head..

Albert, at the end of Pt. 4, says about his phone call with Jeffries something along the lines of "He said it was urgent. He said he need the information urgently".. could it be that the first line (unknown to Albert) is actually "He said it was ARGENT", again connecting Jeffries with Buenos Aires and that strange metallic box?


Hmm I can't see that. I do think Albert has suffered a massive lack of judgement or he knows more than he's letting on...


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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby ManBehindWinkies » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:13 pm

raltenbach wrote:
Skip Bittman wrote:I think only the beginning syncs up - the rest in the purple world is just coincidence and the usual magic that takes place when you combine unrelated video/audio and our brains try to make sense of it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go dig out "Dark Side of the Moon"

Saturn's child wrote:I assumed that Mother's banging was her heart beat; Coop being in a womb-like pre-rebirth vestibule & all.


SO I was simply going to post "Wouldn't 'Atom Heart Mother' be more appropriate?", but I figured I'd try it first. If you start the song when the "SHOWTIME PRESENTS" is at its brightest, you end up with quite a few "holy cow that was perfect" moments. Worth a try if you have 23 minutes to spare. If you get a "wow" moment when Cooper lands you'll know you have it synced correctly. Please someone try this, I don't want to be the only one.


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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby AgentEcho » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:03 am

The name Atom Heart Mother kinda takes on a new meaning after Part 8 doesn't it?
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Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)

Postby BigEd » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:15 pm

Thanks Manbehindwinkies!!!! I'm accepting that the show was edited in a way to "play" with the song. Knowing Lynch's fondness for Wizard of Oz, and the history with Dark Side of the Moon (which I consider indisputable); it is very possible, if not likely, that they would slip something like this in. The album title is just icing on the cake.

I don't understand the text at the beginning though. Shouldn't it read "are not UNintentional."
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby raltenbach » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:11 pm

ManBehindWinkies wrote:


Glad to see someone find a way to post this and not have it taken down within the first 5 minutes of uploading. Equally glad to see it's from a new member here! Thanks for the credit as well. Maybe now less people will think I'm nuts for suggesting this. After seeing Part 8 a few more things jump out at me like the horse sounds.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby BigEd » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:24 pm

raltenbach wrote:
Glad to see someone find a way to post this and not have it taken down within the first 5 minutes of uploading. Equally glad to see it's from a new member here! Thanks for the credit as well. Maybe now less people will think I'm nuts for suggesting this. After seeing Part 8 a few more things jump out at me like the horse sounds.


Well then I'm nuts for agreeing with you! Welcome to the "nut" club. Some folks will simply disagree because a) it wasn't their idea/discovery, b) they understand nothing about the history of Wizard of Oz with Dark Side of the Moon, c) they haven't a clue who Pink Floyd is and/or d) they just like to argue/disagree with everything.
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Re: Parts 3 + 4 (SPOILERS)

Postby ManBehindWinkies » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:30 pm

BigEd wrote:Thanks Manbehindwinkies!!!! I'm accepting that the show was edited in a way to "play" with the song. Knowing Lynch's fondness for Wizard of Oz, and the history with Dark Side of the Moon (which I consider indisputable); it is very possible, if not likely, that they would slip something like this in. The album title is just icing on the cake.

I don't understand the text at the beginning though. Shouldn't it read "are not UNintentional."


Well, I've long been of the belief that the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz thing was not intentional, but it's just an example of synchronicity that may have some kind of mysterious, cosmic origin, or simply a random coincidence. I may be strange but I find the former theory that some unrelated works may have some kind of cosmic synergistic alliance more plausible than a group of artists deciding they want to make one of the greatest albums in the history of rock that just happens to work as a soundtrack for an old children's film.

BigEd wrote:
Well then I'm nuts for agreeing with you! Welcome to the "nut" club. Some folks will simply disagree because a) it wasn't their idea/discovery, b) they understand nothing about the history of Wizard of Oz with Dark Side of the Moon, c) they haven't a clue who Pink Floyd is and/or d) they just like to argue/disagree with everything.


Okay, as far as not having a clue who Pink Floyd is, I'm pretty sure I can go toe to toe with anyone with my knowledge of the band and their music! :D I haven't heard anything concrete to suggest there's intention behind the Dark Side of the Moon/Wizard of Oz synchronicity. Members of the band have ridiculed the notion when they've been asked about it, granted it could be some secret but I don't see why they wouldn't admit it if that was their intention. But I'm open minded, feel free to educate me about the history of WoOz with DSotM, preferably with some credible links! But you know, if I was them, and I poured my heart and soul into creating something amazing, and a bunch of people started suggesting that one of my creative inspirations was to create a secret soundtrack to a film that might be discovered many years into the future when people actually have playback technology that allows them to sync it to the film, I'd probably ridicule it too.

As far as this Part 3/AHM thing, I actually started putting this video together a while back not long after I saw raltenbach's post. I didn't have time to actually upload it until this 4th of July weekend. I had that text there before, and my thought process was, there's no way David Lynch is going to take the time to edit this monumental set piece to Atom Heart Mother then take the music out and add in his sound design. Like why? He's got so many things on his plate directing editing and creating the sound design for an 18 hour long piece.

But of course, I really didn't think about the name Atom Heart Mother suddenly having more relevance after Part 8 until people brought it up in response to the video. Which has admittedly given me a Hawk Chocolate Bunnies moment about this whole thing. I might have left that line out if I'd realized it. Still, I have to be convinced. You are free to try!

Maybe I don't know as much as you about Pink Floyd (I probably do) and don't know much about the history of Oz/Dark Side (I know something about it), but I do understand something of the creative process that goes into creating an album or creating a film, and the idea that either Pink Floyd or David Lynch would want to intentionally synchronize their work to something else doesn't make much sense. Go back and look how this was discovered, raltenbach was just spitballing. Probably nobody would have discovered this otherwise.

I'm not ridiculing these synchronicities, BTW, obviously I took the time to put this together. I think it's a lot of fun, and I do like thinking about the potential mystical explanations. I bet if someone showed this to Lynch (which I hope no one does because it would probably get taken down), him being a practitioner of TM, he'd probably suggest he tapped into the same unified field of creative inspiration that Floyd did when they created AHM. And really, that actually makes more sense to me.

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