Re: Parts 3 & 4 - Call for help & ...brings back some memories (SPOILERS)
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:03 pm
Yeah, this was very interesting, as was the side-by-side video from part 15.djsunyc wrote:
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Yeah, this was very interesting, as was the side-by-side video from part 15.djsunyc wrote:
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it's been noted that the mother and kid is likely squatters, crashing in one of the many vacant houses in the Rancho Rosa community.. much of the neighborhood looks deserted, there's at least one For sale sign close by, barely any cars in the houses around and most importantly the house where Dougie and Jade are having sex is a vacant house. Jade seems to know a real estate agent which lets her access houses to take her clients to.Firewalkwithme91 wrote: - The drugged out mother with the kid is really peculiar. If she´s high all day and presumably unemployed how can they live in such a nice neighbourhood? You expect her more in a ghetto. Also 119 read backwards is obviously 911, a call for help. Is does in anyway connected to Dougie?
also the FBI lapel pin which he has on in every scene up until he leaves the Mauve Room..- Still trying to figure out if there´s more to Cooper loosing his shoes than just having this amusing gag where they fall down on the floor in the Pink Room. Maybe Cooper stole the shoes from Lodge-shoes salesman Mike and he´s not having it. ^^
the whole Naido thing is confusing as hell.. but as far as her pulling the switch, i am completely buying the AC/DC electricity theory. and it corresponds nicely to explain why Mister C needed to be alone for a few days, and why he was out in the desert. and if you listen to the dialouge they make clear that he was driving in the opposite direction from the prison... so what he was there for has to do with his plan for escaping the Black Lodge which he told Darya about the night before. read more on that theory here, thanks to user SecretlyNotCool:- The scenes with Naido are more confusing to me than before. Why is she sacrifcing herself for Cooper? And why is American Girl taking her place in the room? It doesn´t get any bluer.
It's been said* that the whole Rancho Rosa housing estate is meant to represent one of the casualties of the global credit crunch that saw so many mortgaged properties foreclosed. As far as I can recall the analyses of the times, following the Lehman Brothers collapse and knock-on bursts, a wave of such mass foreclosures spread from southern states northward, with whole residential areas being emptied of people. Because modern economies are largely financialised, the collapse of credit default-swaps and other 'creative' financial products hit many economies hard.claaa7 wrote:it's been noted that the mother and kid is likely squatters, crashing in one of the many vacant houses in the Rancho Rosa community.. much of the neighborhood looks deserted, there's at least one For sale sign close by, barely any cars in the houses around and most importantly the house where Dougie and Jade are having sex is a vacant house. Jade seems to know a real estate agent which lets her access houses to take her clients to.Firewalkwithme91 wrote: - The drugged out mother with the kid is really peculiar. If she´s high all day and presumably unemployed how can they live in such a nice neighbourhood? You expect her more in a ghetto. Also 119 read backwards is obviously 911, a call for help. Is does in anyway connected to Dougie?
great points, there really was a contemporary feel to much of what we saw on screen this year.. Janey-E's speech about being part of the 99% and living in dark times, the seeming corruption and lack of care amongst each other spreading through Twin Peaks, were other examples that i thought were poignantNovalis wrote:It's been said* that the whole Rancho Rosa housing estate is meant to represent one of the casualties of the global credit crunch that saw so many mortgaged properties foreclosed. As far as I can recall the analyses of the times, following the Lehman Brothers collapse and knock-on bursts, a wave of such mass foreclosures spread from southern states northward, with whole residential areas being emptied of people. Because modern economies are largely financialised, the collapse of credit default-swaps and other 'creative' financial products hit many economies hard.claaa7 wrote:it's been noted that the mother and kid is likely squatters, crashing in one of the many vacant houses in the Rancho Rosa community.. much of the neighborhood looks deserted, there's at least one For sale sign close by, barely any cars in the houses around and most importantly the house where Dougie and Jade are having sex is a vacant house. Jade seems to know a real estate agent which lets her access houses to take her clients to.Firewalkwithme91 wrote: - The drugged out mother with the kid is really peculiar. If she´s high all day and presumably unemployed how can they live in such a nice neighbourhood? You expect her more in a ghetto. Also 119 read backwards is obviously 911, a call for help. Is does in anyway connected to Dougie?
It's interesting that the fall-out of all this made its way onscreen, if only tangentially, into Twin Peaks: The Return. It certainly helped set up the contemporary feel of the series, and marked a clear difference from the ethos of the old series, which in comparison unfolded very much in a bubble.
I loved the 119 woman and wish she could have appeared again in some other role. The extremely dramatic organ music that plays over her awakening from reverie in one scene certainly suggested that she might have greater significance than she was ultimately given.
*I know, I know, [citation needed] and all that, but I can't remember who said it or on what forum.
yes the beauty is that we all have our individual reactions to it.. to me i always felt that the 3/15 machine had to do with Cooper's switch with the Doppelganger and the elctricity in the car battery considering how the scene is intercut and the importance of electricity with the spirit realms of Twin Peaks, so when i read that theory along with the fact that Mister C was driving the opposite way from the prison it just felt like it all coming together for me.Firewalkwithme91 wrote:That´s pretty interesting especially the AC/DC-theory. I just feel like it´s too technical for me to really appreciate it instead of having a strong gut feeling about what´s going on in those scenes.
So that was the true source of the mysterious feeling of menace that hung over the town of Twin Peaks.Novalis wrote:It's interesting that the fall-out of all this made its way onscreen, if only tangentially, into Twin Peaks: The Return. It certainly helped set up the contemporary feel of the series, and marked a clear difference from the ethos of the old series, which in comparison unfolded very much in a bubble.
haha i had a laugh at that scene during my rewatch.. truly absurd! and the way Cole shouts - "THE CONGESSMAN's DILEMMA!"Firewalkwithme91 wrote:Defintely.
Another point that I wanted to mention was the Congressman´s dilemma. Does Gordon Cole present us what we can expect for this season when he looks at all the disparate clues on the table? There are a lot different things on the table that don´t seem so add up to a solution of the presented case but there is still a need of wanting to figure it all out even though some clues might lead to a dead end and are just ancillary to the feeling of mystery that they evoke.
i took it as that the otherwordly presences that materialized in the box was barely able to register on a camera.. doesn't Tammy says that the Experiment was visible on one or a couple of frames only?Oh, and another thing: It´s curious to me that we see the Experiment on the photos that Albert, Gordon and Tammy watch but no Cooper. If Mr. C is responsible for the glass box experiment it makes sense that they didn´t show the FBI those pictures otherwise Cole and co. would know that Cooper is back. But if Mr. C is behind it all why give the FBI any evidence at all? Just let the bodies disappear. Sounds like a job for Hutch and Chantal.
Yeah, she does.i took it as that the otherwordly presences that materialized in the box was barely able to register on a camera.. doesn't Tammy says that the Experiment was visible on one or a couple of frames only?
yes i think that Mister C is behind the glass box as we are explicitly shown a photo of him which Tammy says was taken from one of the earliest storage drives.. that would indicate that Mister C was around at the very beginning of the project being set up, so i feel that's the conclusion Lynch & Frost wants us to take away from being shown that photo. whether the point of the box is to capture Judy (or The Experiment/Mother) or somehow trap Cooper if the Dougie plans fail i'm not sure about though. perhaps both..Firewalkwithme91 wrote:Yeah, she does.i took it as that the otherwordly presences that materialized in the box was barely able to register on a camera.. doesn't Tammy says that the Experiment was visible on one or a couple of frames only?
So, do you think that Mr. C is behind the glass box experiment? Upon rewatching I realized that Sam is really the only one that talks about a mysterious billionaire that owns the place and he could´ve been easily lied to. Apart from that we just have the photo of Mr. C and the floating bald monk to tie him to this place. Sure, we know he´s looking for the thing on this card but in the rest of the show he´s looking for coordinates instead of conducting experiments. But then maybe after the glass box broke he decided to take matters into his own hands and not wait for something to materialize.
Yeah, Todd definitely seemed to be Mr. C´s bank and coordinator. He didn´t take a lot of action, he just sat in his office and waited to react. This just occured to me but when he tells Roger "tell her she got the job" who does he mean by that? Tracy? But she already died at this point. Chantal also seems to already have a long-term working relationship with Mr. C. Or is this a case of time being nonlinear again?as you mention the mysterious billionaire is Sam relaying a rumor to Tracy, but at the same time a penthouse of that size in the middle of NYC with all that equipment would cost LOADS.. perhaps Duncan Todd fronted the money as he seemed to do anything Mister C asked him to out of fear.
haha yeah, both Mr. Todd and Ben was practically glued to their seats this season.Firewalkwithme91 wrote:Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, Todd definitely seemed to be Mr. C´s bank and coordinator. He didn´t take a lot of action, he just sat in his office and waited to react. This just occured to me but when he tells Roger "tell her she got the job" who does he mean by that? Tracy? But she already died at this point. Chantal also seems to already have a long-term working relationship with Mr. C. Or is this a case of time being nonlinear again?