Part 13 - What story is that, Charlie? (SPOILERS)

[boske]

Wasnt he also downstairs on the game floor when "Mr Jackpots" was having his winning streak. They were standing there watching him, and asking how many jackpots he had won. Sabrina was in the scene as one of the casino staff.

No, that was a different character: that was the old casino manager that got his crap kicked out of him by the Mitchum brothers.

[dronerstone]

I believe Ed's reflecction has NO deeper meaning. That said, I could still be wrong, and the airplane windows could've been screwed with for no apparent reason as well. Maybe Lynch just liked how it looked in postpro and kept it that way? Who cares. I'll start the all-too-heavy overanalyzing once I've seen S3 as a WHOLE, but I'll definitely try not to go TOO deep into it before that.

[Nighthawk]

I believe Ed's reflecction has NO deeper meaning. That said, I could still be wrong, and the airplane windows could've been screwed with for no apparent reason as well. Maybe Lynch just liked how it looked in postpro and kept it that way? Who cares. I'll start the all-too-heavy overanalyzing once I've seen S3 as a WHOLE, but I'll definitely try not to go TOO deep into it before that.

I don't think it has a deeper meaning in and of itself. It's just one element of accumulating strange events happening in TP (Palmer house spooky stuff, road rage/shooting incident near the double R with the vomiting zombie kid, Ed and his out of phase reflection).

[sycamore]

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[sylvia_north]

I believe Ed's reflecction has NO deeper meaning. That said, I could still be wrong, and the airplane windows could've been screwed with for no apparent reason as well. Maybe Lynch just liked how it looked in postpro and kept it that way? Who cares. I'll start the all-too-heavy overanalyzing once I've seen S3 as a WHOLE, but I'll definitely try not to go TOO deep into it before that.

I don't think it has a deeper meaning in and of itself. It's just one element of accumulating strange events happening in TP (Palmer house spooky stuff, road rage/shooting incident near the double R with the vomiting zombie kid, Ed and his out of phase reflection).

Like that Deming/Lynch whacking the lens thing they invented by accident or like the Red Room stuff was created on the fly with no meaning (with a BOB) for the Euro ending. And all the little people out in TV land like get distracted by it like cats with random bits of refuse. Season 1 people were jumping all over the old film references, and the ensemble of directors imitated these style markers. but screwing with technical stuff is fun, too. I can't wait for the Did You Notice Compendiums for Return.

http://www.lostinthemovies.com/2014/11/ ... vtwin.html the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Everett's performance there was devastating on its own.

[boske]

I think there may be something to that scene, I did not initially notice that the refection is not following the source (the reflection of the cup being lifted when the original rests firmly on the desk). But pay attention to the second car too: we first see it leaving the scene, then nothing and finally it is entering the scene. So it looks reversed and missing the middle section of the movement. Is it a result of Lynch wanting to have a second car pass by? It could be, but then he'd show you the complete sequence of the second car, and not reversed either. So that is why I think there is more to it then meets the eye. Add to the fact that it is the ending scene obscured by the credits and that Big Ed has definitely noticed something and is taking a deeper look.

[writersblock]

Everybody stop saying "trolling", or define what you mean by that. I thought that was someone who went on the Internet just to stir up shit. Would one of the 67 people on here who claim Lynch is trolling explain what they mean? Because none of you have. Because he plays with audience expectations or because he returns to things most viewers hate, like that song? I don't really understand how that defines as trolling. This is HIS forum, you know. He didn't get on your website and start making trouble.

Whereas I don't agree that David Lynch is "trolling" - I am always amazed that people think they can just pop onto a forum and demand people stop doing what they are doing. Why should you decide what these 67 people are thinking or want to convey. Trolling is a word that has taken on a different meaning - like meme - for the internet age. An internet troll is a subset of a troll if you will. A troll is defined as someone who deliberately sets out to antagonise someone using a grossly differing viewpoint to elicit a (usually negtative) response.

Now I don't think that is what David Lynch is doing. But I totally get that some people might think that. I have no problem with a three minute sweeping scene - some people do. Or find it hilarious that some people do.

Did David Lynch and Mark Frost set Twin Peaks up as an elaborate joke to annoy the people at showtime who were good enough to finance this? Of course not.

Are some people seeing this as "The Emperor's New Clothes"? Of course they are.

It's not to everyone's taste - clearly. Love it or hate it, though, I don't think David Lynch set out to piss anyone off.

[Rik Renault]

I'm staying in the "there's nothing to the final Big Ed scene except a guy who's mulling over his life and losses" group. People are looking for (and apparently finding) something that isnt there.

But how can that reflection be an editing mistake?

How? I don't know. How were the airplane windows and the motel door and the head of the woman who was just shot and the envelope with the wrong and everything else that people keep saying has Cosmic Significance and HAVE NEVER BEEN MENTIONED AGAIN? Were those mistakes, or were those INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS that are all going to ve revealed in the final five episodes? People are going nuts about a couple of seconds of Ed's reflection when there is zero history in the show that you need to freeze frame to catch significant events. People want to show how incredibly clever they are, but I really don't think Lynch and Frost have any interest in the freeze-frame game.

It definitely isn't the sort of game L/F would play in the original run but I'm increasingly accepting that this series is an entirely different beast. The whole Audrey thing felt out of character for the style too, but we were proved wrong about that.

Wrt the aeroplane flashes i thought that was just a Lynchian motif to suggest something supernatural was on board. I think that's still in play. We also don't know how law enforcement solved the Richard case, so the letter can still be in play too. Now they may well be be airballs like the majority of fan theories, but i think enough doubt has been shed for people to discuss these theories and get as excited about them as they feel necessary.

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[docLEXfisti]

I don't think that reflection in the Big Ed scene has any significance, maybe Lynch just wanted the best take from the Bokeh with Ed in the foreground and the cars in the background and they merged it digitally, nothing more. We know according to Everett McGill's interview that Lynch mostly does two takes and that's it

[dronerstone]

I don't think that reflection in the Big Ed scene has any significance, maybe Lynch just wanted the best take from the Bokeh with Ed in the foreground and the cars in the background and they merged it digitally, nothing more. We know according to Everett McGill's interview that Lynch mostly does two takes and that's it

Thx, that exactly!

[boske]

I don't think that reflection in the Big Ed scene has any significance, maybe Lynch just wanted the best take from the Bokeh with Ed in the foreground and the cars in the background and they merged it digitally, nothing more. We know according to Everett McGill's interview that Lynch mostly does two takes and that's it

That's a possibiluty for sure, but then the question becomes at what level do these inaccuracies stop.

[sycamore]

I'm staying in the "there's nothing to the final Big Ed scene except a guy who's mulling over his life and losses" group. People are looking for (and apparently finding) something that isnt there.

i watched the big ed final scene again and again tonight. i took multiple screenshots and adjusted the exposure, shadows, and black point. maybe it's his reflection or a road sign or something - but i sure couldn't see anything at all. i'm exhausted and done with looking for something. and then, i heard what i was looking for: one single note slowed down from beethovens moonlight sonata - just like in part 8 when the woodsmen were gathered around me c after ray shot him. one single note. listen to the sounds. 'men are coming'.

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/music/woo ... ght-sonata

[docLEXfisti]

That's a possibiluty for sure, but then the question becomes at what level do these inaccuracies stop.

Well, they are just humans after all. Sometimes you just want to get on with it

And I bet the Twin Peaks community is probably the most investigative when it comes to analyzing these scenes or TV-shows in general. We are used to guessing

[Rik Renault]

‘Twin Peaks’: No Talks For Another Season But “Door’s Always Open To David Lynch,” Showtime Bosses Say

http://deadline.com/2017/08/twin-peaks- ... 202144491/


Interesting for those speculating a S4.

[hopesfall]

‘Twin Peaks’: No Talks For Another Season But “Door’s Always Open To David Lynch,” Showtime Bosses Say

http://deadline.com/2017/08/twin-peaks- ... 202144491/


Interesting for those speculating a S4.

"was written by the original series’ creators Lynch and Mark Frost and entirely directed by Lynch, with Kyle MacLachlan reprising his role."

Are they taking the piss?