Part 16 - No knock, no doorbell (SPOILERS)

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DangerMo wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:Something weird about the tulpa concept...
Suddenly, a thought crossed my mind... What is Tulpa almost an anagram of?
PAUL!
And David Lynch is friends with MacCartney. Coincidence? I think not...
"The" Paul MacCartney on Abbey Road's cover is a Tulpa, and Paul actually IS dead! :wink:

Great episode, so f****ing pumped for the big finale. Already looking forward to whatever Lynch has to offer in terms of movie or TV stuff next, there has to be more of something, I'm afraid of going cold turkey sometime next month....
McCartney's name is also shared with Paul Atreides of Dune (directed by Lynch), father of Leto Atreides II, which is the God Emperor of Dune.
In other words, Paul McCartney is Shai Hulud.



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yaxomoxay wrote: McCartney's name is also shared with Paul Atreides of Dune (directed by Lynch), father of Leto Atreides II, which is the God Emperor of Dune.
In other words, Paul McCartney is Shai Hulud.
AAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDD Fake Paul went on to form a band called WINGS! And what has got wings, hum?





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Pauls are not what they seem.
I start having some doubts about Ringo, too.... I already know for a fact that he is a tulpa drummer...
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DangerMo wrote:
yaxomoxay wrote: McCartney's name is also shared with Paul Atreides of Dune (directed by Lynch), father of Leto Atreides II, which is the God Emperor of Dune.
In other words, Paul McCartney is Shai Hulud.
AAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDD Fake Paul went on to form a band called WINGS! And what has got wings, hum?





OWLS!!!!!

Pauls are not what they seem.
I start having some doubts about Ringo, too.... I already know for a fact that he is a tulpa drummer...
And John Lennon was killed by Mark Chapman..."Mark" as in the Owl Cave symbol that Major Briggs had on his skin? And I think Briggs's lips were kind of chapped in one of the original series episodes. So perhaps a tulpa of Briggs was created when he disappeared at the end of Episode 17, and the tulpa traveled back in time to kill John Lennon as part of an initiation ritual to infiltrate the Knights Templar, who secretly inscribed the location of the Holy Grail into Hawk's map to prevent Windom Earle from giving it to Elvis!
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Curious how the part ended with Audrey looking into a mirror. It made me think of the first episode of season two where Shelly visits Leo. Leo is in a coma but they have a mirror up close just a few inches from his face.
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I don't think this is gonna happen, but it would definitely be quite a shock to have it revealed that we've not been in the real Roadhouse all along - we finally see Julee Cruise perform, and she's totally off key, the building is in disrepair, and the crowd is pitifully small.
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Small venues that have developed a reputation for having good bands or for helping to get good bands started often have no trouble pulling in big bands.

That people object to this just shows they've never gone to one of these venues before. When I lived in San Diego a small place called the Casbah brought in big acts like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Chili Peppers, etc. And these days I'm right down the street from a place in SLC called the Urban Lounge that regularly books big and small bands.

Often I find the people claiming something isn't realistic or is impossible just don't really have any knowledge of what they're talking about. And yet they continue to talk.

This especially applies to critics of The Return.
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Wonderful & Strange wrote:Small venues that have developed a reputation for having good bands or for helping to get good bands started often have no trouble pulling in big bands.

That people object to this just shows they've never gone to one of these venues before. When I lived in San Diego a small place called the Casbah brought in big acts like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Chili Peppers, etc. And these days I'm right down the street from a place in SLC called the Urban Lounge that regularly books big and small bands.

Often I find the people claiming something isn't realistic or is impossible just don't really have any knowledge of what they're talking about. And yet they continue to talk.

This especially applies to critics of The Return.
Yes, but SD and SLC are much bigger cities.
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FlyingSquirrel wrote:
BigEd wrote:
thedarktrees wrote:Holy, it's damn tulpa mania in here now. Cooper's a tulpa! Laura's a tulpa! Audrey's a tulpa! Richard's a tulpa! The whole town is a tulpa! The entire SHOW is a tulpa! Yikes. I hope the show itself doesn't go down any absurd paths with this. I thought the Diane tulpa was an interesting twist, but this could get silly fast.
Amen. We've seen the first (Dougie) and last (Diane) tulpas. Lynch/Frost aren't going to allow this thing to become silly.
"This started out as a perfectly reasonable story about alternate dimensions, supernatural serial killers, doppelgangers, and dreams about a man from another place. Now, it's just got silly."

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-Coop mentions the exact location of the .38 Bushnell carries, he IS 100%. He is using those borderline supernatural perception skills that are so remarkable in season 1, I have no doubt he knows the kind of people the Mitchums are AND have been on all sides.
I thought this was a nod to Breaking Bad (a good lawman being able to spot a concealed weapon). This helped to reinforce that the Good Dale is fully back.
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BigEd wrote:
TheGum wrote:
-Coop mentions the exact location of the .38 Bushnell carries, he IS 100%. He is using those borderline supernatural perception skills that are so remarkable in season 1, I have no doubt he knows the kind of people the Mitchums are AND have been on all sides.
I thought this was a nod to Breaking Bad (a good lawman being able to spot a concealed weapon). This helped to reinforce that the Good Dale is fully back.
It was clearly a nod to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

The reason Lynch has Gordon Cole's FBI offices in Philadelphia is so that Cooper and the other agents can receive specialist training in the art of the 'ocular pat down'.
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Denise's Pieces wrote:
Wonderful & Strange wrote:Small venues that have developed a reputation for having good bands or for helping to get good bands started often have no trouble pulling in big bands.

That people object to this just shows they've never gone to one of these venues before. When I lived in San Diego a small place called the Casbah brought in big acts like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Chili Peppers, etc. And these days I'm right down the street from a place in SLC called the Urban Lounge that regularly books big and small bands.

Often I find the people claiming something isn't realistic or is impossible just don't really have any knowledge of what they're talking about. And yet they continue to talk.

This especially applies to critics of The Return.
Yes, but SD and SLC are much bigger cities.
Okay, but the venues are tiny. The argument has been that large acts don't play small venues and it's simply not true.

Perhaps the Roadhouse earned respect by starting "Julee Cruise" out and since then others bands like to stop in Twin Peaks for its reputation and local color? Bands tour all across the states and often make pit stops in surprising places.
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With all these big acts at the roadhouse, shouldn't they have some big security requirements? So far we've seen at least 1 (or 2?) fights, unpermitted smoking, a guy starting to choke a girl while threatening to rape her, and a small woman being picked up by 2 large men and forcibly removed from her booth. I guess that the guy that told Richard to stop smoking was part of the security team? He looked more like a bartender though.

Will Julee cruised be announced as "Julee Cruise"? That would be the weirdest one yet.
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shouldn't they have some big security requirements? So far we've seen at least 1 (or 2?) fights, unpermitted smoking, a guy starting to choke a girl while threatening to rape her, and a small woman being picked up by 2 large men and forcibly removed from her booth
ha, i detect a city dweller. This is what small towns are like :)
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I'm sure this has been discussed a lot, but humor me as someone who only watched this episode once and didn't much like it. Mr. Cooper said that he received coordinates from three people. One would be Ray, whose coordinates obviously led to the rock. The other would be Jeffries, whose probably led to that as well. However, Diane hadn't yet relayed the coordinates from Ruth's arm, correct? Is this just lazy plotting (not unusual for this show), or am I missing something?
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IcedOver wrote:I'm sure this has been discussed a lot, but humor me as someone who only watched this episode once and didn't much like it. Mr. Cooper said that he received coordinates from three people. One would be Ray, whose coordinates obviously led to the rock. The other would be Jeffries, whose probably led to that as well. However, Diane hadn't yet relayed the coordinates from Ruth's arm, correct? Is this just lazy plotting (not unusual for this show), or am I missing something?
Lazy plotting, oh har har. That's a joke, right? It's safe to say you are missing something.
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