Jasper wrote:
"Dougie" was like a numb, transparent shell of Coop, and a fully-aware Cooper was trapped on the inside of this shell, able to observe everything, but only able to lightly influence the actions of "Dougie". Cooper's goodness was able to permeate the shell, but for the most part his wit was not, except for in extreme instances (like the attack by Ike).
It's kind of like being stuck in a dream where you know it's a dream, but you can't seem to wake up. Your sleeping body might stir a bit in response to your awareness, but your conscious mind is essentially trapped in a sleeping body. In Cooper's case Cole's name stirred "Dougie" sufficiently for Cooper to seize a certain level of control, and engineer a way out.
Prior to Part 16, I didn't exactly know how DougieCoop worked. Now I know that there were two layers of consciousness of one person. The outer layer being barely conscious, and the hidden inner layer being fully conscious.
yeah, thanks for that. exactly this.
That for me ( your words in bold above) is where the 'Dougie' plotline hooks in with the rest of the show, why it is there, and central, and not as so many people say, a Las Vegas irrelevance, and i didn't see how the Dougie plot links with the rest, until a couple of days ago, when i had this...er...dream, a repetitive loop dream, being in the same place where the same events kept happening, half way between where i set out from and where i was going to ( on foot) and not being able to snap out of it or go forward or back, or speak properly, or move my limbs properly .... even though everything round me was happening ' normally eg at a normal speed, i was...not able to be fully present, and even though i was fully conscious of this and knew how stupid it looked to other people, who were understandably quite impatient about it.... and i woke up and went downstairs still carrying the residue of this dream-image/feeling, and suddenly thought:
Shit!!
Dougie!!
Then of course i totally forgot about it, until your comment reminded me of it just now. Of course is just random nonsense, but:
i love the way TP/ Lynch can make connections on these kinds of levels, by retaining the ' purity' of the idea, even though the result might appear ( at first glance ) to be totally fucking crass or stupid or annoying, and even though it might not click for a few days or even weeks, when it connects, it really connects. And it makes PEOPLE connect because they have both seen the same thing, and try and find ways of saying it to each other, revoice what lynch has already shown. This is a great level for film to work on, I think.
I remember reading an interview with someone who worked with Lynch on a record, and at one point, the guy said to Lynch, '' I dunno whether this is any good or not'', and Lynch said, '' don't worry about that. We're making things that other people can USE''
Cooper waking and the audrey mirror ending...are they different versions of the same thing?