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that is a fancy way of saying lynch likes animating his paintings.When talking about the FX in Twin Peaks, it's important to understand that avant garde artists like surrealists and absurdists often don't value realistic representation. They intentionally value an artificial aesthetic because it challenges and subverts people's preconceptions of what realistic representation is or should be.
While we're at it, could somebody explain the coordinates and how the hell Hasting's secretary comes into play (besides being a plot device that I'm not even convinced was required to get Ray the coordinates)? I'd like to get some uniform agreement on this, too, prior to Sunday night!whoisalhedges wrote:I've found agreement to be pretty rare here... maybe the mods should lock this thread now to keep it safe.referendum wrote:quick, let's agree before someone else finds another way of saying exactly the same thing which someone else would have put differentlyYep, I'm buyin this.
What about the effects done for Sarah Palmer removing her face? That happened not in any lodge but in the real world and it was truly bad. It reminded me of the old music video by The Cars ("You Might Think") where he removed his face to reveal images inside his head and that was cheesy back in the mid-80s.Wonderful & Strange wrote:But these sorts of assumptions are obviously unjustified because who can say with any authority what looks realistic or "proper" in a fictional dimensional space like the Black Lodge? The closest authorities are Lynch and Frost.
And I honestly had never thought about the angle of the cocaine/dog leg/etc. being in place to frame good Coop if Mr C's plan had backfired. Makes sense, I like it.referendum wrote:quick, let's agree before someone else finds another way of saying exactly the same thing which someone else would have put differentlyYep, I'm buyin this.
What if Cooper asked Mike to create the second Dougie (this time out of goodCoop rather than badCoop) so that Dougie v.2 is pulled back together with badCoop (as they both have to go back, which is two birds with one stone!) so that he can live forever with Janey-E and Sonny Jim?cgs027 wrote:Yep, I could see interpreting that "purpose" to be having Dougie getting pulled back into the lodge instead or Mr. C, so that he could continue his shenanigans in the real world. Nothing to do with Coop swapping with either of them. Again, I don't agree that the switch-out wasn't a known angle of this plan, but I can see this POV. However, the assassins indicate that Mr. C expected someone to come out in Vegas. If he expected Dougie to get sucked in, period, then end of story, no reason for this hit to be scheduled for that time.referendum wrote:''someone manufactured you.... for a purpose... but i think now that's been fulfilled''I could see the argument that Dougie was solely created in order to go back into the lodge instead of Mr. C (ignoring the whole swap idea). However, the presence and timing of the assassins indicates otherwise
'' it has'' ?
AAAAAAAAGH
<disappears>
It's the same assumption -- that supernatural representation ought to fit your definition of "good" and "real."Esselgee wrote:What about the effects done for Sarah Palmer removing her face? That happened not in any lodge but in the real world and it was truly bad. It reminded me of the old music video by The Cars ("You Might Think") where he removed his face to reveal images inside his head and that was cheesy back in the mid-80s.Wonderful & Strange wrote:But these sorts of assumptions are obviously unjustified because who can say with any authority what looks realistic or "proper" in a fictional dimensional space like the Black Lodge? The closest authorities are Lynch and Frost.
I absolutely adored that effect, it made me feel all the right kinds of wrong inside, but -- as they say -- YMMV.Esselgee wrote:What about the effects done for Sarah Palmer removing her face? That happened not in any lodge but in the real world and it was truly bad. It reminded me of the old music video by The Cars ("You Might Think") where he removed his face to reveal images inside his head and that was cheesy back in the mid-80s.Wonderful & Strange wrote:But these sorts of assumptions are obviously unjustified because who can say with any authority what looks realistic or "proper" in a fictional dimensional space like the Black Lodge? The closest authorities are Lynch and Frost.
Here it is. You won't believe it, but it happens at the 2:53 timestamp!Saturn's child wrote:I absolutely adored that effect, it made me feel all the right kinds of wrong inside, but -- as they say -- YMMV.Esselgee wrote:What about the effects done for Sarah Palmer removing her face? That happened not in any lodge but in the real world and it was truly bad. It reminded me of the old music video by The Cars ("You Might Think") where he removed his face to reveal images inside his head and that was cheesy back in the mid-80s.Wonderful & Strange wrote:But these sorts of assumptions are obviously unjustified because who can say with any authority what looks realistic or "proper" in a fictional dimensional space like the Black Lodge? The closest authorities are Lynch and Frost.
Maybe I should check this Cars clip out.
Esselgee wrote: Here it is. You won't believe it, but it happens at the 2:53 timestamp!
Don't know if I understand that completely, but totally! "You shagged Janey-E / Audrey / Diane." Coop: "I did, but I wasn't myself at the time."referendum wrote:what if this whole series is really just a massive complicated excuse for male duplicity?
ep #18
annie: you shagged Janey- E.
<naomi watts swoons>
dale cooper: '' I did. But i wasn't myself at the time. Let's move on''
< heather graham swoons>
< lara flynn boyle hisses / flounces>
< everyone hugs>
all: tubby schmoo! tubby hug!
(voice over): the twin peakies wuv each other very much!
the noo noo : wtf? don't i get a look in?
<disappears and turns into teapot>
exactly, classic get out clause. The rest was just bollox to distract youDon't know if I understand that completely, but totally! "You shagged Janey-E / Audrey / Diane." Coop: "I did, but I wasn't myself at the time."
