Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby Josh » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:13 pm

That was excruciating.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby Pinky » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:16 pm

Sey wrote:
Pinky wrote:wow, that motel scene made me feel sick.


Why?


It felt evil, I don't know. The Coop scene in Judy's cafe, too.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby djsunyc » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:17 pm

Pinky wrote:
Sey wrote:
Pinky wrote:wow, that motel scene made me feel sick.


Why?


It felt evil, I don't know. The Coop scene in Judy's cafe, too.


the sex scene gave me SERIOUS club silencio vibes.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby RainingPostToasties » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:25 pm

Did I catch this right? The Experiment, also known as Mother, was christened Jao Dai (spelling TBD), and that somehow became the code name "Judy"?
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby Sey » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:25 pm

Wait what? That was Episode 18...
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby Jonah » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:39 pm

Quick Thoughts on Part 17 -

Pretty good.

I thought the Bob battle was a bit cheesy and OTT.

I liked much of the rest of it.

The Laura retconning intrigues me as a writer. I think it would have been more touching and powerful had it not been for that hideous wig. People complained about the wig in FWMM, but it's nothing compared to this one. It was just awful. But I like the idea here overall - Cooper stepping into the past to save Laura the night she was going to be murdered. I think this was an idea that probably looked better on paper - and even though retconning (especially to this extreme) is always controversial - I was intrigued by all of this.

Disappointing that we got so little of Julee Cruise. They played full songs for the others but here we only got a brief snippet.
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Actually, now that some time has passed, I like "The full blossom of the evening".
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby dronerstone » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:40 pm

Too many posts spoiling part 18 in here it seems... Please, mods. Be quick. ;)

About pt. 17, I literally had GOOSEBUMPS for the whole hour. And that SONG. WOW. Can't really say more, I'm STUNNED. Crazy, sad, beautiful, surprising, etc etc etc.
Lynch has definitely done it again.

I'll probably wait until tomorrow to watch pt. 18 though. I'm having a hard time watching it just like that, feels like wasting it. I know I'm gonna feel all empty when it dawns on me that there won't be any more. Phew...

WHAT A RIDE.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby dronerstone » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:42 pm

Jonah wrote:Quick Thoughts:

17 -

18 -

Oh well.


PLEASE.

DON'T.

POST.

ABOUT.

PART 18.

HERE.

some of us have only seen 17 parts and are coming to this yrev very thread to discuss.

thanks a bunch.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby AgentEcho » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:45 pm

I bet this thread is going to get neglected, but there was some amazing and spellbinding stuff in Part 17. Honestly if this had been the end of it, it might have been even less perplexing.

The incorporation of secret FWWM footage was pretty mind blowing, as was whatever was going on in that walk in the woods. Old footage? CGI new footage? I couldn't tell if it was old or young Cooper with a lot of it.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby dronerstone » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:47 pm

AgentEcho wrote:
The incorporation of secret FWWM footage was pretty mind blowing, as was whatever was going on in that walk in the woods. Old footage? CGI new footage? I couldn't tell if it was old or young Cooper with a lot of it.


Yup, totally so.

I'm not even sure if that's Sheryl Lee or another certain actress NOT listed in the credits. Anything is possible.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby Jonah » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:49 pm

dronerstone wrote:
Jonah wrote:Quick Thoughts:

17 -

18 -

Oh well.


PLEASE.

DON'T.

POST.

ABOUT.

PART 18.

HERE.

some of us have only seen 17 parts and are coming to this yrev very thread to discuss.

thanks a bunch.


Edited!
Actually, now that some time has passed, I like "The full blossom of the evening".
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby BigEd » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:52 pm

Probably prudent for anybody who has seen both 17 and 18 to just post in the 18 thread. I watched them both and really can't remember where one ended and the other began.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby squealy » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:53 pm

I can't believe they didn't write Julee a new song to sing.

All the questions that arose later dwarfed this question in my mind but still... why was something as important as the destruction of Bob (if that's what we saw) placed in the hands of a character we barely knew?
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby asmahan » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:55 pm

squealy wrote:I can't believe they didn't write Julee a new song to sing.

All the questions that arose later dwarfed this question in my mind but still... why was something as important as the destruction of Bob (if that's what we saw) placed in the hands of a character we barely knew?

I feel like Freddie's destiny involved fending off BOB (I don't think he was truly destroyed) thus saving the lives of everyone in the station.
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Re: Part 17 - The past dictates the future (SPOILERS)

Postby TwinsPeak » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:57 pm

asmahan wrote:The repeated Fire Walk With Me scene broke my heart all over again, but even harder if possible.
How the hell did Lynch do the young Laura following coop scenes? CGI? Fucking insane.


I'm pretty sure in the woods is new footage with Sheryl Lee in a wig dressed as young Laura.

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