Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby KHAN Games » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:40 pm

Part 17 ended so perfectly that I thought I must have watched part 18 by mistake and maybe it was mislabeled.

Then I watched part 18 and was disappointed it wasn't true.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Ashok » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:41 pm

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Ashok wrote:I'm totally confused by the timeline after Cooper left the Sheriff station. Was everything at the end of Part 17 and 18 linear from Cooper's POV or were we seeing everything out of order? I honestly don't understand Part 18 at all.

I think what happened there was Cooper had to touch Mr. Cooper to put the ring on him. The ring made it back to the Black Lodge, but Mr. Cooper's body did not. I think old Bob jumped right back into Coop.


I thought we did see Mr. C's body in the Lodge. Wasn't he on fire? But yeah the ring did go thru first without him.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Tailsun » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:41 pm

richsmith wrote:Does anyone have any thoughts about the incredibly disturbing Sarah Palmer scene, in which she smashes and stabs at the iconic Laura prom queen photograph? I'm assuming it's not a coincidence that right after it Laura disappears from Cooper's sight?


I haven't gone back to look yet, but I'm pretty sure the photo started to bulge out of the frame towards the end, like something was about to burst out of it.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby TwinsPeak » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:42 pm

N. Needleman wrote:It really was LH and MD all over again.

For months I was fooled - I thought Lynch would go for the ultimate happy ending, have Laura resurrected because he could. Instead he did the Monkey's Paw with Dale. (And as I've always said, he was wrong about the ring in FWWM IMO. I've been telling people that for years - Cooper didn't know what he was talking about, he just wanted to save Laura.)

Transcendent in 17, vicious and terrifying in 18 - especially the sex scene - the best of David Lynch and of Twin Peaks.

I do pray there is more but if this is how it goes out, I'm okay. Like after watching MD, scarred but okay. Just masterful stuff.


Can you explain more what you mean by Cooper didnt know what he was talking about? I have also always thought Cooper told Laura the wrong thing, please explain how you interpret it.

multiple timelines,multiple realities, multiple Coopers.....Cooper always seems to be trying to save someone or solve the mystery whether he is Cooper or Richard....I wonder if Cooper is a spirit like BoB, and I wonder how may Coopers there are in how many realities.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Rex » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:42 pm

Jasper wrote:Since we have lots of visitors, I'd like to point out the final poll of reactions to The Return. Please vote!:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3798

I don't know when we'll have so many visitors again. I'd like lots of votes like the poll for parts 1-4.

The white horse (and blue plate) in Carrie/Laura's apartment:

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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Cooperscoffeecup » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:44 pm

I can't understand how Sherilyn was so happy with her part. I can see how James plot was is (indirectly) pivotal to the storyline. No resolution for so many characters it makes me wonder what half the scenes were about and if necessary now. Where was Red? I was sure we would see more of him. For those that followed the spoiler thread, wasn't there a Red scene that didn't make the cut of The Return?
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Mace » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:45 pm

The Silver Mustang Casino also mirrors the horse and horseshoe themes.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Jasper » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:46 pm

Rex wrote:
Jasper wrote:Since we have lots of visitors, I'd like to point out the final poll of reactions to The Return. Please vote!:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3798

I don't know when we'll have so many visitors again. I'd like lots of votes like the poll for parts 1-4.

The white horse (and blue plate) in Carrie/Laura's apartment:

white_horse.jpg


It's not a horse. It's a colt/filly.


Those are both horses.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby dugpa » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:47 pm

Was it my imagination or was there a scene that looked like a factory filled with Phillip Jeffries Teapot Pods?
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby SpookyDollhouse » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:47 pm

Rex wrote:
Jasper wrote:Since we have lots of visitors, I'd like to point out the final poll of reactions to The Return. Please vote!:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3798

I don't know when we'll have so many visitors again. I'd like lots of votes like the poll for parts 1-4.

The white horse (and blue plate) in Carrie/Laura's apartment:

white_horse.jpg


It's not a horse. It's a colt/filly.


Splitting hairs. :P
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Ross » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:47 pm

So basically Cooper failed and screwed himself, and we get an ending, but it's a downer ending.

Not sure how I feel.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Rex » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:48 pm

I just canceled my Showtime subscription on Amazon.

I was fully prepared to buy Season 3 as soon as it hit DVD.

I'm going to rewatch the first two seasons ad nauseum and forget Season 3 ever existed.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby Rex » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:49 pm

SpookyDollhouse wrote:
Rex wrote:
Jasper wrote:Since we have lots of visitors, I'd like to point out the final poll of reactions to The Return. Please vote!:

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3798

I don't know when we'll have so many visitors again. I'd like lots of votes like the poll for parts 1-4.

The white horse (and blue plate) in Carrie/Laura's apartment:

white_horse.jpg


It's not a horse. It's a colt/filly.


Splitting hairs. :P

Is it? With Lynch?

It's the difference between a young horse and an adult one.

Time has some significance here.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby N. Needleman » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:49 pm

TwinsPeak wrote:Can you explain more what you mean by Cooper didnt know what he was talking about? I have also always thought Cooper told Laura the wrong thing, please explain how you interpret it.


Cooper tells Laura not to take the ring because he is trying to save her life. But the ring was the only thing that could save Laura's soul from BOB and deliver her to salvation, despite her having to die to do so. He was missing the big picture.

Cooper does the same here - tries to save Laura, succeeds. It does not go well.
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Re: Part 18 - What is your name? (SPOILERS)

Postby yaxomoxay » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:49 pm

One question. Shouldn't the fact that the Double R has no To Go sign and that Tremond is young indicate that they are in the past?


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