'The Secret History of Twin Peaks' novel by M. Frost 10/18

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I read this over the weekend, before watching the new series. It was a semi-interesting diversion, but not much more. It's clear that a split exists between Frost and Lynch over what's important in the series, and I believe Lynch referred to this book as just Frost's version of the show's history.

The UFO stuff is way overdone, as is taking a very minor character (
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laughingpinecone wrote:Whoa! You know, I'm starting to look forward to the audiobook's background music and noises, among other things.

& If he managed to find a good excuse for people in-universe to be calling that metaphysical place "Lodge(s)", my hat's off to him & his awesome retconning powers. ('cause Parsons was connected to Crowley who was connected to the concept of Lodges Frost drew from in the first place, yes?)

It vaguely influenced some ideas in the show but I still find it a horrendously lazy idea for Frost to say "fuck it, Crowley and Parsons are now part of the chronology", when none of the actual Twin Peaks mythology actually connects with that of Thelema (which is it's own religion, or spiritual/philosophy - depending on who you talk to).
(Thelema and Crowley's writings are really, really beautiful btw)

It still irks me to this day, even with the incredible visuals of episode 8 of The Return, just knowing that Frost was trying to tie them directly into it (disregarding Parson's own beliefs about the rocket and sexuality) comes off as lazy world building, also considering that prior, there haven't been much real-world references :x
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Thatfabulousalien wrote:
It vaguely influenced some ideas in the show but I still find it a horrendously lazy idea for Frost to say "fuck it, Crowley and Parsons are now part of the chronology", when none of the actual Twin Peaks mythology actually connects with that of Thelema (which is it's own religion, or spiritual/philosophy - depending on who you talk to).
(Thelema and Crowley's writings are really, really beautiful btw)

It still irks me to this day, even with the incredible visuals of episode 8 of The Return, just knowing that Frost was trying to tie them directly into it (disregarding Parson's own beliefs about the rocket and sexuality) comes off as lazy world building, also considering that prior, there haven't been much real-world references :x
I really like that whole aspect of season 3 and the books. I don't see what makes it lazy. Also there were always references to real world events and conspiracies on "Twin Peaks". "Project Blue Book" being a comparable example.
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As are the Lindbergh case and JFK on the conspiracies front, and then The Scarlet Letter, Marlon Brando and filmography thereof, James Bond...
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Also dugpas, another Blavatsky concept, and of course the namesake of this site!

And lots of other film nods... and even TV, Philip Gerard as reference to the Fugitive.

Something interesting about a lot of the criticism of new Peaks and its contentious relationship to the old show is how, often, it mirrors the old show better than the one perceiving had at first thought ... and I mean that as no insult, because it's happened to me as well. For instance, the Las Vegas stuff seemed so weirdly, thematically disengaged ... but then I realized there was, you know, that whole casino subplot in the original. Insertion of music that was laying around or that Lynch had previously discussed (No Stars, Lissie) initially struck me as odd, but the original reused old musical projects too, the Julee Cruise tracks, and that odd song on the jukebox in the pilot, coming from Industrial Symphony #1. It goes to show how a thing can live in your mind so much differently than other people, take on its own life, especially compared to the viewpoint of the creators.
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For those fascinated by Jack Parsons, CBS has a new streaming-only series produced by Ridley Scott about
Parsons’s life, called Strange Angel. I haven’t seen it yet, but it sounds potentially interesting.
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Mr. Reindeer wrote:For those fascinated by Jack Parsons, CBS has a new streaming-only series produced by Ridley Scott about
Parsons’s life, called Strange Angel. I haven’t seen it yet, but it sounds potentially interesting.
I haven't seen it myself yet (I'm not able to stream it legally) but from what I've heard about it from the Thelema community, it sounds like it's just sensationalist and disrespectful to the real life Jack Parsons. :(
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