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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Gabriel » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:54 am

Regarding the 1s and 0s an Is and Os, having grown up in a journalist family and watched two generations using a typewriter, I can vouch that using I and O instead of numbers was common practice. Typesetters would deal with putting in the correct lettering. Remember, this was an analogue era, so it really didn't matter.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Soolsma » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:00 am

krishnanspace wrote:
krishnanspace wrote:I haven't read the book,but could someone tell me why is Major Briggs collecting the information on Everyone?

Can someone please answer this?


Douglas Milford told him he should be the next 'watcher in the woods'. To me it seems this is a task which holds some kind of tradition in the region of Twin Peaks, tracking and archiving the town and it's history of strange phenomena. On why he would keep track on characters like Ed and Nadine and such I'm pretty much clueless.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby AgentCoop » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:04 am

TheArm wrote:
I also asked about the "1" / "I" thing. He said it was meant to be a symbol of Briggs's feelings of personal responsibility and accountability (or something to that extent).



Um...huh?
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby thepope79 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:41 am

There are a number of omissions from the audiobook version, the most annoying of which that I have noticed being the entire of page 307 - Carl Rodd's letter to the Post - plus the accompanying TP notes on page 306. They've even edited the archivist's reference to the letter (after recording) so that he no longer refers to "the following letter".

Also, note 2 on page 214 isn't in there, and there were at least a couple of other omissions that I noticed at the time but did not think to make a note of, that there did not seem to be any good reason for leaving out.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Dalai Cooper » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:21 am

AgentCoop wrote:
TheArm wrote:
I also asked about the "1" / "I" thing. He said it was meant to be a symbol of Briggs's feelings of personal responsibility and accountability (or something to that extent).



Um...huh?


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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby MaiTaiRob » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:08 am

Laura said "I'll see you again in 25 years."

She never said 25 years in which direction.

I have a feeling the show will, at least in part, head "Through the darkness of future's past."

The "two worlds" are two different timelines.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby FittenTrim » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:37 am

It was probably a slip of the tongue, and not a reveal, but last night in L.A. Mark Frost said Robert Knepper played Dougie Milford in season 3, then corrected himself to say he was voice on audiobook.

If they were going to be 'moving through time' in season 3, Knepper could make an okay young Doug Milford IMDB.

As others have noted, Frost said Dougie Milford married Lana, Miss Twin Peaks 1989.

When I spoke to Frost, we talked about him voicing Haywards in the audiobook, and I had him signed one of my books as Cyril Ponds. I also asked Amy Shiels to sign several books.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby laughingpinecone » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:01 am

FittenTrim wrote:It was probably a slip of the tongue, and not a reveal, but last night in L.A. Mark Frost said Robert Knepper played Dougie Milford in season 3, then corrected himself to say he was voice on audiobook.

If they were going to be 'moving through time' in season 3, Knepper could make an okay young Doug Milford IMDB.

As others have noted, Frost said Dougie Milford married Lana, Miss Twin Peaks 1989.

When I spoke to Frost, we talked about him voicing Haywards in the audiobook, and I had him signed one of my books as Cyril Ponds

Wait, Ponds? Didn't he make a big show on Twitter of the character's name being Pons? How'd he sign it? (...is it yet another Berenstein/Berenstain situation like 3/4 of the book?)
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby FittenTrim » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:57 am

I forgot to mention that famed L.A. crime writer Michael Connelly was there (with what I'm assuming was his daughter). They got a book signed and Frost mentioned he was a fan of Connelly's writing.

Connelly wrote the Harry Bosch novels which is currently adapted into a TV series on Amazon.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Mordeen » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:59 am

Soolsma wrote:
krishnanspace wrote:
krishnanspace wrote:I haven't read the book,but could someone tell me why is Major Briggs collecting the information on Everyone?

Can someone please answer this?


Douglas Milford told him he should be the next 'watcher in the woods'. To me it seems this is a task which holds some kind of tradition in the region of Twin Peaks, tracking and archiving the town and it's history of strange phenomena. On why he would keep track on characters like Ed and Nadine and such I'm pretty much clueless.

Correct. The powers that be knew that the source of the terrestrial phenomena was in the vicinity of the "great falls" and "twin mountains." The LPA was set up for that purpose. Milford collected data on locals who were involved in that mystery, one way or the other. When Milford knew his time was short, he groomed Major Briggs to be his replacement. Briggs thought he discovered who his new "control" was based upon the message, but realized that he had misinterpreted the message. He retreated to the LPA with the dossier to secure it.

Go back to the beginning of the book and remember that the dossier was discovered at a classified crime scene. Likely the LPA. Briggs discovered who Cooper "really" was and likely paid for it with his life.

As for people like Ed & Nadine being included? That's what Season 3 is for.

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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Soolsma » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:07 am

Damn Mordeen,

I think you may be right.

That's just... really dark... as dark as coffee comes...
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby AgentCoop » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:16 pm

The woods are lovely, dark and deep...
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby Clueless » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:26 pm

Mordeen wrote:Briggs discovered who Cooper "really" was and likely paid for it with his life.
-Mordeen


Yes, very dark but this series of events would give S3 Bobby Briggs a whole new way to be an antihero (or, umm, anti-villian?) if he believes he knows who Cooper "really" is...
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby ScibenX » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:43 pm

Mordeen wrote:Go back to the beginning of the book and remember that the dossier was discovered at a classified crime scene. Likely the LPA. Briggs discovered who Cooper "really" was and likely paid for it with his life. -Mordeen


The book certainly wants us to think this is what happened, but as others have mentioned, the Archivist references events that occurred in the weeks/months following the finale. To my mind, this leaves two possibilities: that Briggs/Milford were the Archivist and someone subsequently tampered with the Dossier to some unknown end; or the true Archivist chose to present the dossier as having being written by Briggs.

I want to believe Briggs was the Archivist, but I have doubts. For one, why would Gordon Cole make finding the identity of the Archivist TP's #1 priority, when all one would have to do is flip to where he announces his name? Surely someone else at the FBI looked at the dossier before giving it to TP. Maybe Cole is testing TP? (If so, she obviously failed.)

Of course, if Cole is involved with a Blue Book-esque conspiracy, this could all be an effort to hide or bury the truth.

I also suspect the "Dossier Handling Timeline" from the beginning of the book might offer some clues as to when or by whom tampering may have occurred. For example, TP had the dossier in her possession for a full week prior to starting her work on it.

If the dossier was tampered with, that leads to the question of who did so, and why? I can think of two possible culprits, neither of which really hold up: Evil Coop or Windom Earle. If Evil Coop doctored the dossier after killing Briggs, why leave in anything that would raise suspicion, even as vague as Briggs' last few lines before Mayday? As far as Windom Earle, while I believe he would be capable of creating or seamlessly tampering with this dossier, it would not be very dramatically satisfying to discover that the book we just read was actually written by a character fans have mixed feelings towards, to say the least.
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Re: SPOILERS: The Secret History of Twin Peaks

Postby krishnanspace » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:19 pm

What if Agent Tp is Coopers and Annie's child. Amy Shiels Is 25 years old and Gordon knows it and is testing her. Just some random thought.

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