'Twin Peaks: The Final Dossier' Novel by Mark Frost 10/31 (SPOILERS)
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That sure sounds like an opening for Season 4 to me.
But it could also be an ending, period. I think what Part 18 means - whatever the interpretation of events - is that nothing Cooper did could ever truly erase Laura's story.
But it could also be an ending, period. I think what Part 18 means - whatever the interpretation of events - is that nothing Cooper did could ever truly erase Laura's story.
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My mind is racing with all the possibilities opened up from this and I can't wait to read it for myself to draw my own interpretations from the book and discover what implications it has on my readings of the visual show. I think the answer aboutN. Needleman wrote:That sure sounds like an opening for Season 4 to me.
But it could also be an ending, period. I think what Part 18 means - whatever the interpretation of events - is that nothing Cooper did could ever truly erase Laura's story.
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For me the closure that appears to be offered in the book tempered the rampant opaqueness in this season and its finale to a point where I feel like I will be able to enjoy this 'limited season event' a lot more upon rewatches.
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What about Annie and Windom Earle? Any concrete info/spoiler? Anyone? Much obliged in advance.
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Hi everyone,
If I understand correctly,
If I understand correctly,
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if they were to continue, how would they deal with having dealt with some of the open storylines in a book? I'd say S3 whittled down the audience considerably but probably not to the point where there's no one out there that's hardcore-fan enough to watch s4 but not quite enough to have read the book. People will fall between the cracks.
Just as an example, my brother has watched it, but he's in no way a rabid fan. He sure as hell wanted to know about Judy, though, and if we got a s4 then that's something he'd be looking forward to finding out more about. I can turn to him and say, 'ah, they explained Judy in the book, she's -----' etc, at which point he's just going to look confused and prob feel a bit cheated. Of course, they may well deal with Judy again in any s4, but then the scenario is that i'm ahead of the show and I know things that we're not meant to know yet.
Richard Kelly had something like this with his cut of Donnie Darko, you more or less had to have read this little time travel treatise thing for the full story to make sense. I'm all for stories not making sense, I loved S3 and i'd love more, but i'm curious as to how it would ever work satisfactorily. I guess it would work if any continuation was just Richard and Carrie in Odessaverse.
Also, if it's just a desk-clearing exercise for the hardcore fans so they get a few qs answered and Lynch gets a clean, context free canvas where he's truly free to go batshit, i'd be a happy man.
Sorry for the rambling, there's a point in there somewhere. The most concise way could be to say this:
not everyone who watched s3 and would watch a s4 is going to read the book. Either the book's going to be v important and some of it should have been put into the show, or the book is not all that important (like TSHOTP) because s4 is going to deal with other things. Which means v little continuity from s3, which will be heaven for the 10,000 or so people that would watch it:)
Just as an example, my brother has watched it, but he's in no way a rabid fan. He sure as hell wanted to know about Judy, though, and if we got a s4 then that's something he'd be looking forward to finding out more about. I can turn to him and say, 'ah, they explained Judy in the book, she's -----' etc, at which point he's just going to look confused and prob feel a bit cheated. Of course, they may well deal with Judy again in any s4, but then the scenario is that i'm ahead of the show and I know things that we're not meant to know yet.
Richard Kelly had something like this with his cut of Donnie Darko, you more or less had to have read this little time travel treatise thing for the full story to make sense. I'm all for stories not making sense, I loved S3 and i'd love more, but i'm curious as to how it would ever work satisfactorily. I guess it would work if any continuation was just Richard and Carrie in Odessaverse.
Also, if it's just a desk-clearing exercise for the hardcore fans so they get a few qs answered and Lynch gets a clean, context free canvas where he's truly free to go batshit, i'd be a happy man.
Sorry for the rambling, there's a point in there somewhere. The most concise way could be to say this:
not everyone who watched s3 and would watch a s4 is going to read the book. Either the book's going to be v important and some of it should have been put into the show, or the book is not all that important (like TSHOTP) because s4 is going to deal with other things. Which means v little continuity from s3, which will be heaven for the 10,000 or so people that would watch it:)
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My initial reaction is that a lot more of this should have been covered in the show.
A lot of people, who felt burned by the show, aren't going to realize that they need to read The FInal Dossier and perhaps that's not really fair on them.
I still look forward to reading The Final Dossier for myself, but I can see how devisive it is going to be for fans. Knowing that there are actually some definitve answers that weren't on screen.
I will watch the reviews and reaction threads with interest. Who knew that The FInal Dossier would be this forthcoming?
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I still look forward to reading The Final Dossier for myself, but I can see how devisive it is going to be for fans. Knowing that there are actually some definitve answers that weren't on screen.
I will watch the reviews and reaction threads with interest. Who knew that The FInal Dossier would be this forthcoming?
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The thread itself has the word "spoilers" in it. I think that should be sufficient for those that don't want things, you know, spoiled.N. Needleman wrote:Please post/PM more if you can for those of us who don't FB. Thanks.
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so, uh, how's Annie?
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Agent Earle wrote:What about Annie and Windom Earle? Any concrete info/spoiler? Anyone? Much obliged in advance.
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That's strange.Rik Renault wrote:Agent Earle wrote:What about Annie and Windom Earle? Any concrete info/spoiler? Anyone? Much obliged in advance.Spoiler:
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Mark Frost made some comments that were published just yesterday. They were posted in this thread:Pinky wrote:There's a lot there that would have been useful for any continuation, so if Frost's tying everything up like this, it looks like it's done.
Thanks so much, the spoilers have made me want to read the book all the more!
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bowisneski wrote:Frost hasn't ruled out Season 4 either - http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/twin-p ... 201891106/
“I haven’t decided yet,” said Frost in an interview with IndieWire. “I think it’s still an open question and it’s one that we’re looking at and one that I think Showtime is musing as well.”
“The anchor [for ‘Twin Peaks: The Return’] and starting point came from the moment we revisited the last episode of the original show,” said Frost. “Cooper’s dilemma of when Good Cooper trapped Bad Cooper [both played by Kyle MacLachlan] out and that weirdly prescient line of the spirit of Laura’s whispering to Cooper, ‘I will see you again in 25 years.’ That was the springboard to the story and that is where I saw the opening to bring us back and that is what I proposed to David when we got back together in 2012 and said this is where we can pick up the thread.”
“It’s something you have to think long and hard about,” said Frost. “We’ll make the decision when the time is right. There certainly is no sense of urgency about it.”
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I was honoring a prior poster's request.thunderclap82 wrote:The thread itself has the word "spoilers" in it. I think that should be sufficient for those that don't want things, you know, spoiled.N. Needleman wrote:Please post/PM more if you can for those of us who don't FB. Thanks.
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My apologies, I think I must've been getting confused! His answer to this was:Agent Earle wrote:That's strange.Rik Renault wrote:Agent Earle wrote:What about Annie and Windom Earle? Any concrete info/spoiler? Anyone? Much obliged in advance.Spoiler:
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He said "All will be revealed. In time." Which makes a whole lot more sense now.DeerMeadowRadio wrote:dkenny78 wrote:Spoiler:Regarding earlier inconsistencies, Frost did say all will be revealed...Spoiler:
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That's dark. And cool.
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