The Buenos Aires/Convenience Store deleted scenes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:56 pm
Hey all, it's my first post here, but I've been a reader of these forums for awhile. I find Twin Peaks incredibly fascinating and one of the most unique and compelling mythologies I've ever seen. Since I got my pre-ordered blu-ray set of the entire series and film, my mind has been filled with Peaks again lately.
Finally seeing the extended/deleted footage on my blu-ray for the Buenos Aires/Convenience store sequence, which till now could only be read about in the shooting script, was just incredible. I was wondering if people got any new hints, theories or ideas from it though? It filled me with so many questions.
Agent Jeffries tells Cole that he’s “been to one of their meetings". Is it that he knows that Cole already knows who he means, as part of the Blue Rose investigation perhaps? As soon as Jeffries mentions the Ring, Cole practically tells Albert to get lost, like it’s too secret for him to hear about. Jeffries also specifically mentions “Feburary, 1989”, which is the same month Laura Palmer will be killed? Did he already know because of the non-linear time of the Black Lodge?
Agent Jeffries found “something” in Seattle “at Judy’s”. Was it the Ring in Seattle at Judy’s? Is that what caused him to disappear for 2 years (like Agent Desmond)? When we first see him though he is in Buenos Aires, Argentina. So did he "reappear" and then go to Argentina looking for Judy (recall she left a note for him with the hotel staff) without telling anyone in the FBI he was back yet?
Why would the Ring be at Judy’s anyways? And if it was, then how in the world, and why, did Teresa later get it? It's great to see the extended scenes of Teresa to flesh out Leland's discovery of her and her attempted blackmail of him, but, frustratingly, it still doesn't explain what she has to do with the mythology.
And does this mean the Convenience Store is actually in Seattle, and maybe even Judy’s store? I’ve always wondered whether we are supposed to think the Convenience Store was a real or metaphysical place like the Red Room/Black Lodge. Does anybody have a firm idea on this place?
We see BOB's face laughing (in the same lightning as the monkey that whispers Judy) as Jeffries is zapped back to Buenos Aires. Why is BOB teleporting him to Philadelphia and back? I noticed that Argentinian man fearfully asks, “Are you the man?" to Philip and then the next scene has Mike Nelson and Bobby say “Mike IS the man”. Were those deliberately connected?
Does “the chrome reflects our image” have anything to do with how mirrors sometimes show BOB when he is possessing someone in the series? Just WHAT is with that light flashing behind that…thing…beside the black-bearded Woodsman? The way the camera zooms into that part of the room reminds me very much the way the camera zooms into BOB running through the hospital at the end of Episode 8 during Ronette’s dream.
Their descent “from pure air” reminds me of the sylphs or faeries who occupied the strange middle place between angels and humans in the mixed Christian and pagan folklore of medieval Europe.
Does the Electrician’s utterance of “Animal life” finally provide a clue to the mystery of the Owls (that aren’t what they seem) that never quite got answered in the series? Along with the other spirit saying “Electricity,” does this mean that they can “go up and down between the two worlds” through these mediums? I was surprised to see that Mrs. Tremond asking, “Why not be composed of materials and combinations of atoms?” in the shooting script was not on film here, but it would seem to tie into this. When BOB counters that he "has the fury of [his] own momentum", the Grandson says to "fell a victim", which I assume means possess someone. So does that mean this scene takes place at least 40 years before he possessed Leland, as MIKE said Bob had been "nearby for nearly 40 years", or does it refer to an attempt to possess Laura Palmer, since her face briefly fades into the Red Room at the end of this sequence? But if so you would think MIKE wouldn't have tried to stop BOB from doing that, since he gives Laura the Ring (which appears to prevent him from completing the ritual, causing him to kill her) and the Little Man wouldn't have been seen triumphantly laughing as she is killed.
The Jumping Man’s face screeching in the background seems like the same kind of white face with yellow teeth that we have seen overtake the faces of Windom Earl, Laura and Leland. He seems really important but I can't figure out what or who he is supposed to represent.
Because this sequence ends with the Little Man and BOB leaving the Convenience Store for the Red Room, does this indicate that it takes place just after MIKE “cut off his Arm” (who we know is the Little Man) and ended his partnership with BOB, since in Cooper’s dream MIKE explained that, “We lived above it [the convenience store]. But when I saw the face of God, I was changed…” etc? Of course that presumes he wasn't just lying to Cooper, because later at the road incident with Leland and Laura, MIKE/Gerard shouts how he "stole the corn" he had "canned above the store". I assumed that referred to BOB feasting on Teresa's garmonbozia when it had been set aside for MIKE since she was wearing the Ring. But that hints the Store was still in use, right?
When Little Man says “Fire walk with me” and BOB claps his hands and they both go through the red curtains, does this mean they created the Red Room or did it already exist? I guess that goes into what the Red Room represents anyways, which Lynch has never and said could not give an answer on. Yet the next time Mrs. Tremond and the Grandson are seen next, they seem to be in physical form on Earth ("materials and combinations of atoms"), in Fat Trout Trailer Park (with the Ring?) as "Chalfont" or later in "Mrs. Tremond's" house with Donna Hayward.
The shot of the Lodge spirits fading into the forest reminds me of the lines from the series about wood holding “many spirits”. Is the idea that the trees of Ghostwood forest are possessed or inhabited by these spirits?
Finally seeing the extended/deleted footage on my blu-ray for the Buenos Aires/Convenience store sequence, which till now could only be read about in the shooting script, was just incredible. I was wondering if people got any new hints, theories or ideas from it though? It filled me with so many questions.
Agent Jeffries tells Cole that he’s “been to one of their meetings". Is it that he knows that Cole already knows who he means, as part of the Blue Rose investigation perhaps? As soon as Jeffries mentions the Ring, Cole practically tells Albert to get lost, like it’s too secret for him to hear about. Jeffries also specifically mentions “Feburary, 1989”, which is the same month Laura Palmer will be killed? Did he already know because of the non-linear time of the Black Lodge?
Agent Jeffries found “something” in Seattle “at Judy’s”. Was it the Ring in Seattle at Judy’s? Is that what caused him to disappear for 2 years (like Agent Desmond)? When we first see him though he is in Buenos Aires, Argentina. So did he "reappear" and then go to Argentina looking for Judy (recall she left a note for him with the hotel staff) without telling anyone in the FBI he was back yet?
Why would the Ring be at Judy’s anyways? And if it was, then how in the world, and why, did Teresa later get it? It's great to see the extended scenes of Teresa to flesh out Leland's discovery of her and her attempted blackmail of him, but, frustratingly, it still doesn't explain what she has to do with the mythology.
And does this mean the Convenience Store is actually in Seattle, and maybe even Judy’s store? I’ve always wondered whether we are supposed to think the Convenience Store was a real or metaphysical place like the Red Room/Black Lodge. Does anybody have a firm idea on this place?
We see BOB's face laughing (in the same lightning as the monkey that whispers Judy) as Jeffries is zapped back to Buenos Aires. Why is BOB teleporting him to Philadelphia and back? I noticed that Argentinian man fearfully asks, “Are you the man?" to Philip and then the next scene has Mike Nelson and Bobby say “Mike IS the man”. Were those deliberately connected?
Does “the chrome reflects our image” have anything to do with how mirrors sometimes show BOB when he is possessing someone in the series? Just WHAT is with that light flashing behind that…thing…beside the black-bearded Woodsman? The way the camera zooms into that part of the room reminds me very much the way the camera zooms into BOB running through the hospital at the end of Episode 8 during Ronette’s dream.
Their descent “from pure air” reminds me of the sylphs or faeries who occupied the strange middle place between angels and humans in the mixed Christian and pagan folklore of medieval Europe.
Does the Electrician’s utterance of “Animal life” finally provide a clue to the mystery of the Owls (that aren’t what they seem) that never quite got answered in the series? Along with the other spirit saying “Electricity,” does this mean that they can “go up and down between the two worlds” through these mediums? I was surprised to see that Mrs. Tremond asking, “Why not be composed of materials and combinations of atoms?” in the shooting script was not on film here, but it would seem to tie into this. When BOB counters that he "has the fury of [his] own momentum", the Grandson says to "fell a victim", which I assume means possess someone. So does that mean this scene takes place at least 40 years before he possessed Leland, as MIKE said Bob had been "nearby for nearly 40 years", or does it refer to an attempt to possess Laura Palmer, since her face briefly fades into the Red Room at the end of this sequence? But if so you would think MIKE wouldn't have tried to stop BOB from doing that, since he gives Laura the Ring (which appears to prevent him from completing the ritual, causing him to kill her) and the Little Man wouldn't have been seen triumphantly laughing as she is killed.
The Jumping Man’s face screeching in the background seems like the same kind of white face with yellow teeth that we have seen overtake the faces of Windom Earl, Laura and Leland. He seems really important but I can't figure out what or who he is supposed to represent.
Because this sequence ends with the Little Man and BOB leaving the Convenience Store for the Red Room, does this indicate that it takes place just after MIKE “cut off his Arm” (who we know is the Little Man) and ended his partnership with BOB, since in Cooper’s dream MIKE explained that, “We lived above it [the convenience store]. But when I saw the face of God, I was changed…” etc? Of course that presumes he wasn't just lying to Cooper, because later at the road incident with Leland and Laura, MIKE/Gerard shouts how he "stole the corn" he had "canned above the store". I assumed that referred to BOB feasting on Teresa's garmonbozia when it had been set aside for MIKE since she was wearing the Ring. But that hints the Store was still in use, right?
When Little Man says “Fire walk with me” and BOB claps his hands and they both go through the red curtains, does this mean they created the Red Room or did it already exist? I guess that goes into what the Red Room represents anyways, which Lynch has never and said could not give an answer on. Yet the next time Mrs. Tremond and the Grandson are seen next, they seem to be in physical form on Earth ("materials and combinations of atoms"), in Fat Trout Trailer Park (with the Ring?) as "Chalfont" or later in "Mrs. Tremond's" house with Donna Hayward.
The shot of the Lodge spirits fading into the forest reminds me of the lines from the series about wood holding “many spirits”. Is the idea that the trees of Ghostwood forest are possessed or inhabited by these spirits?