NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

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Postby beano » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:18 pm


premier party at a masonic lodge? interesting..

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Mordeen » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:19 pm

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby adl345 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 pm

According to Tim Goodman (TV critic for Hollywood Reporter), there'll be a media screening in LA on May 19 (presumably for the first 2 hours), but reviews will be embargoed until after it airs on Sunday.

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Ross » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:03 pm

adl345 wrote:According to Tim Goodman (TV critic for Hollywood Reporter), there'll be a media screening in LA on May 19 (presumably for the first 2 hours), but reviews will be embargoed until after it airs on Sunday.

https://twitter.com/BastardMachine/status/855225240749658112

So is he being sarcastic when he says "Um, all good signs!"?
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby dreamshake » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:12 pm

Definitely. A lot of TV critics like Goodman and Sepinwall have lately been saying that if there's no screeners available to the press it must that the show is terrible and Showtime is hiding it. I assume Lynch doesn't want critics to spoil anything/let the work speak for itself and allow the audience to digest it without the perceptions of critics in mind.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby dreamshake » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:15 pm

Oh I guess Showtime might also want to avoid having screeners leak online before the air date. Also should note that Goodman is not a fan of TP as evidenced by this:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/critics-notebook-how-legion-scooped-twin-peaks-as-2017s-weird-show-watch-986474?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Rudagger » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:27 pm

dreamshake wrote:Definitely. A lot of TV critics like Goodman and Sepinwall have lately been saying that if there's no screeners available to the press it must that the show is terrible and Showtime is hiding it. I assume Lynch doesn't want critics to spoil anything/let the work speak for itself and allow the audience to digest it without the perceptions of critics in mind.


I think it's probably also a bit of eye-rolling on their end as well. It's great Lynch wants to keep the mystery alive, but, ultimately being a critic is a job, and I imagine it's a pain in the ass to have a mad rush to get reviews out almost immediately after airing (because the life span for television reviews is very short, if it's not up within a few hours, people stop caring). Obviously in this case, they have two days to write for the premiere, but, I assume they won't get screeners for the rest of the season which can cause headaches.

So, while I'm tempted to say 'grow up', I can see why reviewers who aren't already Twin Peaks fans sort of roll their eyes and might feel it's either Showtime being overly cautious, or Lynch being pretentious (I think a fair comparison to make is that Force Awakens, the biggest movie in the past decade, and with an even more aggressively dedicated fanbase, still had reviews out before the world wide premiere).

But, I'm a person who's pretty empathetic, plays devils advocate, and says "to be fair" a lot, so, don't skewer me on not hating the reviewers for being annoyed.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Rudagger » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:31 pm

dreamshake wrote:Oh I guess Showtime might also want to avoid having screeners leak online before the air date. Also should note that Goodman is not a fan of TP as evidenced by this:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/critics-notebook-how-legion-scooped-twin-peaks-as-2017s-weird-show-watch-986474?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral


I've never heard of this reviewer before, but, he seemed to have respect for Twin Peaks for what it was trying to do, even if it didn't add up to him (minus large swaths of the second season .. but that's no different that a fair percentage of people on this board!). For what it's worth, Twin Peaks is entering a far more competitive tv landscape than it did in 1990.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Ross » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:34 pm

Better brace ourselves for negativity...
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby sp.agent.dalecooper » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:38 pm



Cool. That's where I live! But seeing as I'll be at the Roadhouse for the premier I'm going to have to miss this.

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby dreamshake » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:40 pm

It's definitely a pain on the publishing schedule but other shows don't send out screeners to avoid leaks. GoT and Mad Men are the biggest that come to mind.

I think the thing that irked me about that Goodman article is that it failed to mention how Legion is heavily indebted to Twin Peaks (even the creator acknowledges it) and if you're going to compare the shows I think you need to include that. Oversights like that are pretty glaring. There are directly lifted shots!
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby N. Needleman » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:52 pm

That article was posted (and trashed) a few weeks ago, I believe. Unless he double-dipped.

I do think there will be a good deal of glib cynicism and hot takes on TP so as to try and fix it in a larger cultural moment or framework. They won't work because the show is now immortal, but those pieces will exist. I suspect it will infuriate critics because they know that unlike other current showrunners, Lynch does not fit that box and does not give a shit and will not engage. I'm going to let most of them just roll off me. I don't think it's worth worrying over.

Same thing you're seeing with Goodman being sarcastic re: the screeners. The reason they're embargoed is not because the network fears critical response, it's because Lynch is hyper-secretive. But he's trying to frame it in conventional terms. TV critics, like Beltway media in Washington, crave their normal paradigm.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Mallard » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:15 pm

dreamshake wrote:It's definitely a pain on the publishing schedule but other shows don't send out screeners to avoid leaks. GoT and Mad Men are the biggest that come to mind.

I think the thing that irked me about that Goodman article is that it failed to mention how Legion is heavily indebted to Twin Peaks (even the creator acknowledges it) and if you're going to compare the shows I think you need to include that. Oversights like that are pretty glaring. There are directly lifted shots!


It's a strange article. I just recently finished watching Legion (which I enjoyed quite a bit), and the truth is, despite the homages, and being linked by general "wierdness," Legion is just a different show than Twin Peaks, to the point that they're hardly comparable. Neither could really "scoop" the other; they don't occupy the same creative space.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby madeleineferguson » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:32 pm

This last month of waiting is making everyone extremely testy, including the press. A trailer sure would help things!

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