NON SPOILERS: Twin Peaks: Season 3 on Showtime Thread

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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Mistertom » Wed May 03, 2017 9:52 pm

I'm fully expecting this will be the end of twin peaks, on tv Atleast. We of course have marks final book on Halloween as well. But I do expect this will conclude twin peaks in a way that makes sense in a lynch sort of way. Meaning I can plausibly see this providing us with something else to talk about for another 27 years. We will know soon enough ! It's so close
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby claaa7 » Wed May 03, 2017 10:35 pm

i would actually prefer this season to wrap-it up as well.. it would be like a big red cherry on top after 25 years, allowing the series to bow out gracefully.

following that I would love to see Mark Frost and David Lynch collaborate again as well as Twin Peaks books and merch, etc., but i think it would be a wise choice to complete the story now. what i really hope is that this will light Lynch's love for feature movie making again and that we'll see another film from him soon after. can you imagine that we are about to get 18 HOURS of new material from the master this year? that will pretty much increase his filmography with 50%, i can't believe it :D
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Agent Earle » Thu May 04, 2017 12:22 am

underthefan wrote:Be my guest.


I wouldn't, not in a million years. If you've read at least some of my contributions here you know I'm a staunch supporter of the series venturing beyond these approaching 18 parts, so my post was (as I'm sure you know) meant as an ironic nudge towards those who're eager for new Twin Peaks to be whisked away ASAP just so it doesn't get bogged down (again).
Look, the world with "bad" or, let's say, not optimal TP is waaay better than the one with no TP at all's all I'm sayin'. Besides, Lynch is still brisk and snappy - let's keep this show goin' (or we might be sorry later)!
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Soolsma » Thu May 04, 2017 12:48 am

I wouldn't be able to choose a side in this discussion until I've seen S3. Generally I do lean towards the 'less is more' side but I also like to keep an open attitude to any kind of possibility. Admitted though, the shows that made it past a second or third season without turning in to a drag are not common at all.

But what about another movie? Prequel, sequel, spin-off, special or weird Lynchian escapade set in the universe? I could definitely see Lynch falling in love with a certain character or part of the world of Twin Peaks of which he'd feel the need to flesh it out more, like what happened with Laura and FWWM. I'd probably be super exited about that.

I'll probably be very happy with the 18 hours we've got coming, will also be sad when it's over, but enough sure is enough, more than enough :)
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby John Justice Wheeler » Thu May 04, 2017 1:02 am

We are tremendously lucky just to be getting what we are going to be getting. It's a day many of us thought we would never really see. I am more than happy with this, to put it mildly. But to be honest I have never been able to comprehend why anyone would want it to go on past this kind of ultimate "peak" point. It isn't likely to ever be any better than this or even remotely close to as good. If Lynch/Frost decide to do more than that would be a very different story but otherwise why would anyone want to watch the series peter out yet again?
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby dronerstone » Thu May 04, 2017 1:09 am

Didn't expect to see one of my favorite TP actors cameo on FARGO S03E03 last night. And even including the mention of a ring, haha! Awesome. :)
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby baxter » Thu May 04, 2017 1:30 am

My feeling on it (and indeed my faith in the new series) is set by the first half hour of FWWM. That's new original content set in the same universe with different actors, and with ostensibly a different story (albeit one linked to the TV series), and its really strong in my opinion. I'd be very happy to watch that sort of thing past S3. At the same time, it might just be pointless if S3 has an nice ending.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby krishnanspace » Thu May 04, 2017 3:55 am

dronerstone wrote:Didn't expect to see one of my favorite TP actors cameo on FARGO S03E03 last night. And even including the mention of a ring, haha! Awesome. :)

Gonna watch the 3rd episode now
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Metamorphia » Thu May 04, 2017 6:00 am

If Twin Peaks became an ongoing thing (a literal soap opera, running season after season every year) it would totally devalue everything good about it. Let's enjoy S3 and leave it there.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby dkenny78 » Thu May 04, 2017 7:04 am

Count me in with the people that would prefer this 18-hour 'Return' to be the end of the mainline Twin Peaks saga. As much as I love how TV reboots are suddenly in vogue, I fear their success has given rise to an unfortunate trend: the failure of the TV producers to ever put a final stamp on their narratives. 10 years ago, it was relatively unheard of for a canceled TV show to get a 'new season' years later. MAYBE if it had been a huge hit, there'd be spinoff TV movies like 'Columbo' or 'Murder She Wrote' (and even those cases were procedural fare - I can't think of an example where a heavily serialized show came back).

But now, especially with the advent of cable, streaming services, and the hesitation for Hollywood to produce 'new' properties, the TV reboot is a very real possibility. Creators have to know this when they're penning their 'final episode' and it has to affect the narrative somewhat. The recent reboots of '24', 'Heroes' and 'X-Files' all ended with finales that left a lot more up in the air than their original series finales, because the producers wanted to increase their chances of getting picked up again (and it worked for the 'X-Files' which is coming back later this year).

But, at a certain point, things do need to end, and the greatness of a narrative is often cemented by a dramatically satisfying ending (BREAKING BAD might be the best example of this in TV). Twin Peaks didn't get the sendoff it deserved in 1991, but the stars have turned and a time has presented itself for its original creators and much of its cast to come back and put a final stamp on what they started 27 years ago. I'd rather get the definitive ending now, with the original team involved and engaged than go through multiple seasons of open-ended finales with likely diminishing returns.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby mfleite » Thu May 04, 2017 7:45 am

Maybe the success of Twin Peaks: The Return will open a door for another Frost/Lynch project whether it be TV or Film?
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby LateReg » Thu May 04, 2017 8:25 am

I might be putting words in people's mouths here, but I think those who would want Twin Peaks to continue on into seasons 4 and 5 are those who love the show first, and Lynch second. I'm in the opposite camp that views this not simply as the return of Twin Peaks, but as the return of David Lynch. I never expected Twin Peaks to come back, and maybe because I never gave it a thought I can also say that I never even wanted it to come back, but I've been waiting for what feels like an eternity for Lynch to follow-up Inland Empire...who could have predicted this 11 year drought with a focus on meditation and music? So I'm mostly excited about the return of David Lynch...that it's with Twin Peaks is admittedly an undeniable bonus, of course. And the best way for him to return is with a vision with a clear beginning and ending, which is why I'm so ecstatic about his view of the new series as an 18-hour film. I'd rather have the greatest thing ever in a single season and never get it again than get something pretty good that scatters its best ideas across multiple seasons. And like others have said, after this season of Twin Peaks, assuming it is successful, one would imagine that a rejuvenated Lynch would have no problem getting his next feature film or some new TV show made. I'd consider those options to be better than a season 4 of Twin Peaks. And don't forget, 18 hours is basically two seasons, anyway. There's gonna be a lot that happens, a nice long journey to the end, which might feel like multiple seasons minus any filler. And Lynch's heart will be in it the entire time.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby Rainwater » Thu May 04, 2017 8:27 am

I'm in agreement with the less is more mindset - particularly because we know it was envisioned and created as a one-time event, which we've been told explicitly.

I think this is mainly a matter of what people are looking for in this series, which probably follows what they enjoyed most about the old. I assume many of those who would like this to turn into a multi-season TV series are also fond of the soap opera aspect of the old Twin Peaks. I was never all that into it, myself. I can only stand small doses of soap. FWWM is still my favorite Peaks material. As others in this thread have already expressed, I'd much prefer this to be a strong self-contained story. Thankfully, by all accounts, that's what we're getting.

Besides - it's 18 hours, for God's sake. That's the equivalent of nine 2-hour feature films. Dwell on that for a moment.


Agent Earle wrote:the world with "bad" or, let's say, not optimal TP is waaay better than the one with no TP at all

I strongly disagree. I'd rather have nothing than lukewarm mediocrity.
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Re: NO SPOILERS: Twin Peaks Season 3 on Showtime May 21st 2017

Postby mine » Thu May 04, 2017 8:39 am

I think Twin Peaks works best as a self contained story as opposed to an ongoing show. I think it needs a who killed Laura Palmer like overreaching plot to keep it on focus. So what we're getting is in my opinion the best fit for it.
Most revivals of old shows tend to be limited up to 10 episodes seasons which is also much different than 20 something, or even just 15, episode long seasons of ongoing shows as far as storytelling is concerned.

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