Season 4? Or is it over after this?

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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby JackwithOneEye » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:51 am

Mr. Reindeer wrote:I think TP Productions owns all the TP IP. CBS/Showtime only have the distribution rights to the old material. I.e., they control any home video rights, what streaming platform it’s on, etc., as well as licensing of the footage. But all TP media has always been solely copyrighted to either L/F or TP Productions. Lynch can do whatever he wants with any of the characters, music, etc. I believe Jonah was just talking about the potential “sampling” of old footage. CBS’s relationship with TP is more analogous to MGM’s relationship to the James Bond films—MGM has the distribution rights, but EON Productions owns all the IP and the content of the films themselves.


If Unrecorded Night were direct sequel to Richard/Linda/Carrie, pretty sure DL would want to use old footage. ep 17 + 18 were chock full of old stuff.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:19 pm

I’m sure he could negotiate something with CBS, just as they negotiated with MK2 to use FWWM footage in TR (and to include TR in the Entire Mystery and Z to A box sets). Unless CBS was so bitter he went elsewhere that they refused, but I doubt it would get that personal.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:13 pm

According to @fatecolossal, other names are beginning to get attached to Unrecorded Night via IMDB (not reliable).

Johanna Ray - casting director
Dean Hurley - Music Supervisor
Ronald Eng - re-recording mixer / sound supervisor
Cori Glazer - script supervisor

(I guess these could be added by people in the know or just fans assuming they will be involved, as they are on most Lynch projects.)

@fatecolossal - "No further clarity yet on why Production Weekly no longer lists it as a Netflix project."
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:15 pm

I’d be shocked if Ray, Glazer and Hurley weren’t involved no matter what the project is, so not very interesting news. And yes, also a highly suspect source.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:21 pm

Regarding Mark Frost saying he's not involved, if PW had incorrectly put Netflix down instead of Showtime and if this is TP, would he have responded that way if asked about a DL Netflix project?
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:52 pm

Did Lynch wish frost on his birthday on his YouTube channel? I mean he usually wishes other people, so I was just wondering about it
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:05 am

krishnanspace wrote:Did Lynch wish frost on his birthday on his YouTube channel? I mean he usually wishes other people, so I was just wondering about it


No
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Postby Jonah » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:06 am

Do you think that's significant?
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:17 am

Jonah wrote:Do you think that's significant?


No. I think the weather reports are completely idiosyncratic, and I never read much into them, as much as I enjoy them.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby krishnanspace » Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:31 am

Also what happened to the rumours about something being announced at Graceland? BTW do you guys think that if Wisteria doesn’t turn out to be Twin peaks , will there be chances for Twin peaks in the future? I mean considering that it would be in production in 2021 and would release in 2022. Will there be a future for Twin peaks after 2022.
Lol 2022 feels like something in the far future while typing but it’s only like 370 days away!
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Panapaok » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:12 am

Yeah, Ray and Glazer are probably involved. They always work with Lynch. The same for Hurley and Eng, although I think this info isn't too reliable. This is still in early stages of pre-production, why would they already hire people for post-production?

Anyway, I wonder if Lynch manages to bring Jack Fisk on board this time. I remember he wanted him for The Return as well, but he was in Canada working on The Revenant at the time.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby JackwithOneEye » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:19 am

krishnanspace wrote:Also what happened to the rumours about something being announced at Graceland?


that was mostly Obnoxious and Anonymous spreading rumors about graceland announcement to get clicks and traffic to to the you tube channel, he was spouting all kinds of nonsense at the time that Lynch might do a Fathom event and cut down the Return to 2 hours and release in theaters at the time, mostly stuff he makes up and conjectures about, and then it spirals around every corner of the internet.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Jonah » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:21 am

@fatecolossal
Because Production Weekly no longer lists David Lynch’s new proj. as a Netflix one, I DMed the Reddit user who, back in Feb, originally posted the 1st details about it (details later verified). They write: “from my end it looks like it’s still on track. Still at Netflix.” (cont)

But they caution : “I'm not as inside as it may appear though, so take it with a grain of salt.... I’m as eager about this thing as all of you guys are but nothing is definitive until it starts shooting.”

That’s encouraging (even w the caveats), though I’ll note that Prod. Weekly didn’t just omit Netflix from their latest entry on UNRECORDED NIGHT - they went back and retroactively scrubbed all mentions of Netflix from their previous updates on it. Pretty strange... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Part of the reason I’ve fixated on this is that, if you’ll recall, there was a period in 2015 when production on TWIN PEAKS: THE RETURN was in serious jeopardy because of a dispute between Lynch & Showtime on the budget size. So it’s conceivable similar hiccups could occur now...


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Prod. Weekly didn’t just omit Netflix from their latest entry on UNRECORDED NIGHT - they went back and retroactively scrubbed all mentions of Netflix from their previous updates


Thoughts on what this part means? Could Netflix not want their involvement announced yet and threatened legal action? Is there a Showtime-style dispute? Have they dropped the project? Were they never actually involved?
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby eyeboogers » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:21 am

CBS/Showtime definitely didn't have any of the FWWM rights to begin with, but eventually bought or licensed them. That is one of the reason's why it took so many years for The Missing Pieces to become a reality. M2 owned all rights to the film, but it was probably worth more to CBS since they could then control the whole TP library, which M2 could never afford to.
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Re: Season 4? Or is it over after this?

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:30 am

eyeboogers wrote:CBS/Showtime definitely didn't have any of the FWWM rights to begin with, but eventually bought or licensed them. That is one of the reason's why it took so many years for The Missing Pieces to become a reality. M2 owned all rights to the film, but it was probably worth more to CBS since they could then control the whole TP library, which M2 could never afford to.


CBS licensed FWWM for the collections. MK2 is still listed as the distributor on the recent Criterion disc as well as in the credits of TR (“FWWM footage courtesy of TP Productions and MK2”).

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