Twin Peaks: From Z To A 12/10 & The Television Collection 10/15 Blu-Ray & DVD Sets

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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:21 pm

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Postby Diane » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:03 pm

Has anyone watched this all the way through? My wife and I are on episode 13 of the original series and there are numerous digital glitches in the picture and shaky/jerky looking scenes.
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Postby AXX°N N. » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:48 am

Diane wrote:Has anyone watched this all the way through? My wife and I are on episode 13 of the original series and there are numerous digital glitches in the picture and shaky/jerky looking scenes.

Could you give specific scenes for reference? The discs that have the old episodes and the Return episodes are merely old releases with new labels.
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Postby vicksvapor77 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:21 am

bowisneski wrote:
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bowisneski wrote:"We live inside a dream and I hope to see you all again in that dream. It's been just fantastic knowing each and everyone of you."


I forgot about that! What do you think it means? I think it may lead less credence to "this whole thing is Cooper's dream." It reads as more metaphorical to me.


I agree. I think it means that, as written, that was 100% Cooper's Jeffries scene since he was clearly addressing the room with his "We live inside a dream.", instead of observing and speaking outside of it. I would guess that Lynch's goal in editing that was either to make it closer to his Twin Peaks or to create more dissonance and leave some more room to dream. Man do I want a chance to read that script.


What do you mean by this part? But I agree that Lynch wanted to make it more abstract. I think Frost is of the opposing/metaphorical view. What a mess, lol.
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Postby bowisneski » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 pm

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bowisneski wrote: as written, that was 100% Cooper's Jeffries scene


What do you mean by this part? But I agree that Lynch wanted to make it more abstract. I think Frost is of the opposing/metaphorical view. What a mess, lol.

In Conversations with Mark Frost(which everyone should buy and read) Mark says of Jeffries and Cooper
Cooper was following in the footsteps of Phillip Jeffries.

Like Jeffries in Philadelphia, Cooper randomly shows up at a law enforcement office after being missing for a period of time before disappearing completely again. When he shows up, as appears to have been scripted, he tells the room "We live inside a dream." He then time travels for the first time before ending up somewhere confused about when he is, as Jeffries is in The Missing Pieces when he sees the calendar.
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Postby LateReg » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:11 pm

bowisneski wrote:
vicksvapor77 wrote:
bowisneski wrote: as written, that was 100% Cooper's Jeffries scene


What do you mean by this part? But I agree that Lynch wanted to make it more abstract. I think Frost is of the opposing/metaphorical view. What a mess, lol.

In Conversations with Mark Frost(which everyone should buy and read) Mark says of Jeffries and Cooper
Cooper was following in the footsteps of Phillip Jeffries.

Like Jeffries in Philadelphia, Cooper randomly shows up at a law enforcement office after being missing for a period of time before disappearing completely again. When he shows up, as appears to have been scripted, he tells the room "We live inside a dream." He then time travels for the first time before ending up somewhere confused about when he is, as Jeffries is in The Missing Pieces when he sees the calendar.


Well, shoot. When you lay it out that way it really makes me believe that Cooper will never find his way out. The parallels to Jeffries may be the key to understanding where Cooper ended up and whether or not a return is possible. At least, that's one way to look at it. Also, very interesting about Richard and Linda (what you posted in the other thread). Interesting about Carrie being scripted all along but not Richard and Linda, and that Frost may not actually know what Richard and Linda mean. Cooper must have been written either as Cooper, or a slippery, edgier, fully integrated version of Cooper still known only as Cooper.
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Postby bowisneski » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:58 pm

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bowisneski wrote:In Conversations with Mark Frost(which everyone should buy and read) Mark says of Jeffries and Cooper
Cooper was following in the footsteps of Phillip Jeffries.

Like Jeffries in Philadelphia, Cooper randomly shows up at a law enforcement office after being missing for a period of time before disappearing completely again. When he shows up, as appears to have been scripted, he tells the room "We live inside a dream." He then time travels for the first time before ending up somewhere confused about when he is, as Jeffries is in The Missing Pieces when he sees the calendar.


Well, shoot. When you lay it out that way it really makes me believe that Cooper will never find his way out. The parallels to Jeffries may be the key to understanding where Cooper ended up and whether or not a return is possible. At least, that's one way to look at it.

It's a line of thinking I've mulled over since a couple weeks after The Return and Frost's comments have sort of cemented it, even though it's possible Lynch doesn't believe that. That's one of the things I love about the show though, just because Frost pinned it down in a way that seems right doesn't mean it is.

While I wonder if there's a Tin Machine somewhere waiting for Dale Cooper, I like to believe that The Fireman or Laura's whisper(assuming she's saying something to help him) put him on the right track eventually and he makes his way to the end of FWwM.
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Postby Diane » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:25 pm

AXX°N N. wrote:
Diane wrote:Has anyone watched this all the way through? My wife and I are on episode 13 of the original series and there are numerous digital glitches in the picture and shaky/jerky looking scenes.

Could you give specific scenes for reference? The discs that have the old episodes and the Return episodes are merely old releases with new labels.


Several, but I didn’t make notes. The scene where Josie is smoking at a desk waiting for Ben Horne is one. I think this is prior to the mill burning.

I didn’t notice any of these things on previous box sets.
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Postby IcedOver » Wed May 13, 2020 1:24 pm

Quick question though I think I already know the answer. This set does not have any new remasters of the original series, it's the exact same transfer used in 2014, correct? The only differences I can tell are the UHD disc (which is unusable for me) and a few extra special features. I have the 2014 and S3 sets so am on the fence about buying this. It looks like I waited too long anyway because even though I looked last week and it was $100-$125 or so, this week it's over $200. It feels like it isn't worth it.
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Postby Mr. Reindeer » Wed May 13, 2020 2:12 pm

IcedOver wrote:Quick question though I think I already know the answer. This set does not have any new remasters of the original series, it's the exact same transfer used in 2014, correct? The only differences I can tell are the UHD disc (which is unusable for me) and a few extra special features. I have the 2014 and S3 sets so am on the fence about buying this. It looks like I waited too long anyway because even though I looked last week and it was $100-$125 or so, this week it's over $200. It feels like it isn't worth it.


It’s the exact same discs as The Entire Mystery and A Limited Event Series sets, repackaged. There are two additional discs of new special features (all BTS footage from TR) and the 4K disc. Otherwise, one and the same.
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Postby Pyaan123 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:26 am

Recieved this boxset from my wife. Man of man. I can’t wipe the grin of my face. Doing a total viewing in the order of things being released. And then all the extra’s.

As I said to a friend of mine: I found the meaning of life; Twin Peaks.

Great stuff by the way seeing all the footage in such great detail and crispness. So much details to see in the backgrounds.
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Postby Pyaan123 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:38 pm

Pyaan123 wrote:Recieved this boxset from my wife. Man oh man. I can’t wipe the grin of my face. Doing a total viewing in the order of things being released. And then all the extra’s.

As I said to a friend of mine: I found the meaning of life; Twin Peaks.

Great stuff by the way seeing all the footage in such great detail and crispness. So much details to see in the backgrounds.
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