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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:43 am

It appears there were two acts on Day 7 also.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:55 am

Hockey Mask wrote:EPISODE/QUOTE
DAY NUMBER
DATE
MUSIC


Part 1: My log has a message for you. (5/21)
01.01 "Hello, Agent Cooper. I'll see you again in 25 years. Meanwhile."
Day 1 September 17th-Wednesday
01.02 Giant tells Cooper to listen to the sounds, remember "430" and Richard and Linda.
01.03 Jacoby receives shovel delivery.
01.04 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey brings coffee, security won't allow her to go up.
Spoiler:
Day 2 September 18th-Thursday
01.05 Ben & Jerry meet at Great Northern, Beverly is new secretary.
01.06 Insurance salesman attempts to find Sheriff Truman through Lucy.
01.07 Evil Cooper goes to cabin in woods "American Woman" - Muddy Magnolias/Lynch Remix, Evil Cooper meets with Otis and Beula, Ray and Darya leave with Evil Coop.
01.08 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey returns, security guard missing, Sam & Tracey die via a creature in the box.
Day 3 September 19th-Friday
01.09 Margerie smells odor from neighbor's apartment, calls police.
01.10 Police discover Ruth in apartment.
01.11 Hank calls Harvey.
01.12 Log Lady calls Hawk "My log has a message for you" -Log Lady.
Day 4 September 20th-Saturday (Saturday according to Hastings interrogation)
01.13 Constance discovers Hastings' prints match prints at crime scene.
01.14 Hastings is arrested.
01.15 Hawk opens Laura's old police files.
01.16 Hastings interrogated by Dave.
01.17 Hastings placed in jail.
01.18 Hastings home and car is searched, find piece of flesh in trunk
01.19 Giant, phonograph. [NOT INCLUDED IN TWO PARTER]

Part 2: The stars turn and a time presents itself. (5/21)
Day 4 Continues
02.01 Phyllis visits Hastings in jail.
02.02 Phyllis tells George "He knows."
02.03 Disembodied head floats from cell next to Hastings.
02.04 Evil Cooper shoots Phyllis.
02.05 Vegas: Duncan gives Roger money to pay "her" for the job, warns Roger about "him".
02.06 Railroad crossing flashes.
02.07 Evil Cooper makes plans in diner with Ray, Darya and Jack, Evil Cooper wants information from Hastings secretary via Ray.
02.08 Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove, receives call from Log Lady. "The stars turn and a time presents itself" -Log Lady
Day 5 September 21st-Sunday
02.09 Cooper in Red Room with One-armed Man, Laura removes her face, whispers to Copper and gets sucked out of room, Cooper meets The Evolution of the Arm.
02.10 Evil Cooper kills Jack at storage center.
02.11 Evil Cooper, at motel, catches Darya lying about phone call, shows her playing card and kills her.
02.12 Evil Cooper contacts Jefferies, downloads prison plans, Evil Cooper goes next door, tells Chantal (Hutch's wife) to clean up the other room, fingers her.
02.13 Cooper is told by EotA to "go now", Leland tells Cooper to "Find Laura", Cooper from Red Room sees Evil Cooper driving Day 7?, EotA's doppelgänger, Cooper falls thru floor.
02.14 Cooper visits the box in NYC. Day 2
02.15 Sarah watches TV.
02.16 The Roadhouse with James, Shelly, Red & Jean-Michel Renault, James has been in an accident, Shelly doesn't like her daughter Becky with Steven, she'll flirts with Red "Shadow" -Chromatics.

Part 3: Call for help. (5/21 & 5/28)
Day 6 September 22nd-Monday (9/22 according to arrest report)
03.01 Cooper in purple room.
03.02 Evil Cooper gets in accident.
03.03 Dougie and Jade in bed, Dougie's arm in numb, Dougie wearing ring, Jade showers.
03.04 Evil Coop vomits.
03.05 Dougie goes to red room, turns into gold bead, One-armed man puts ring on table.
03.06 Cooper switches with Dougie.
03.07 Jade drives Dougie-Coop, hitmen miss Dougie-Coop when he ducks to get Great Northern key.
03.08 Boy watches from window, Drugged out mother yells "119". Repeats on Day 8
03.09 Police find Evil-Coop and get sick from smell.
03.10 Hawk, Andy & Lucy go thru files, "Is it the bunny?".
03.11 Jacoby paints shovels.
03.12 Jade drops off Dougie at Silver Mustang. "Call for help" -Cooper
03.13 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
03.14 FBI meeting, Gordon, Albert and Tammy learn Cooper is in South Dakota.
03.15 The Roadhouse "Mississippi" -The Cactus Blossoms.

Part 4: ...brings back some memories. (5/21 & 5/28)
Day 6 Continues
04.01 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
04.02 Bill Shaker sees Dougie-Coop in casino.
04.03 Casino manager pays off Dougie-Coop, provides limo home.
04.04 Limo driver finds Dougie-Coop's home.
04.05 Janey-E yells at Dougie-Coop, counts money.
04.06 Cole meets with Denise.
04.07 Lucy speaks with Truman on his cell phone about thermostat, freaks out.
04.08 Maggie tells Frank about overdose.
04.09 Frank discusses Chinese designer drug and surveillance cameras with Bobby.
04.10 Andy explains cell phones to Lucy.
04.11 Hawk updates Frank, Chad bad mouths log lady.
04.12 Bobby sees Laura's picture. "…brings back some memories" -Bobby Briggs "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti, Bobby explains Cooper was the last one to see Major Briggs alive before he died in fire.
04.13 Wally Brando arrives.
Day 7 September 23rd-Tuesday
04.14 One-armed Man tells Dougie-Coop he was tricked.
04.15 Janey-E helps Dougie-Coop pee, get dressed.
04.16 Dougie-Coop has breakfast at home "Take Five"-Dave Brubeck.
04.17 South Dakota police files gets blocked.
04.18 Tammy gets car sick, Albert and Gordon discuss Mt. Rushmore.
04.19 Gordon learns contents of Evil-Coop's trunk: cocaine, machine gun, dog leg.
04.20 Cole, Albert & Tammy interview Evil-Coop, Albert says he's been working with Jeffries.
04.21 Gordon wants to hear about Evil-Coop's private phone call when he has it.
04.22 Gordon asks Tammy to leave because she's wearing a wire, Albert tells Gordon he authorized Jeffries to give Cooper info about man in Colombia, Gordon asks Albert to find "her".
04.23 The Roadhouse "Lark"-Au Revoir Simone.

Part 5: Case files. (6/4)
Day 7 Restarts
05.01 Vegas "The Flame"-Johnny Jewel, Guys still surveilling house.
05.02 Lorraine texts Buenos Aires "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
05.03 Autopsy of body, find Dougie's wedding ring in stomach.
05.04 Evil Cooper sees Bob in jail cell mirror.
05.05 Mike interviews Steven.
05.06 Frank talks to Harry, Doris visits Frank and argue about leaking pipe.
05.07 Dougie-Coop cries when he sees Sonny Jim in back of car.
05.08 Two cars drive by Dougie's abandoned car "Habit"-Uniform.
05.09 Janey-E drops off Dougie-Coop at work, he mimics statue, follows coffee up to office, Darren hits on girl, Frank enjoys green tea, Dougie-Coop calls Tony a liar.
05.10 Dougie-Coop receives homework from Mullins "Case files" -Cooper.
05.11 Girl let's Dougie-Coop use ladie's room.
05.12 Manager gets fired (and roughed up) by Bradley and Rodney Mitchum, replace him with Warrick.
05.13 Boy wanders across street to Dougie's car, thieves show up to steal Dougie's car and it blows up "Tabloid"-Uniform, druggie mom wakes up.
05.14 Car washer finds Great Northern key in Jade's Jeep, Jade mails back key.
05.15 Becky drops off basket to a Toad, Shelly loans Becky money.
05.16 Steve drives to back of RR Diner, Becky and Steven snort coke, Becky high as they drive "I Love How You Love Me"-The Paris Sisters.
05.17 Dougie-Coop rides elevator down backwards.
05.18 Dougie-Coop gazes at statue.
05.19 Hawk and Andy go thru files.
05.20 Jacoby/Dr. Amp does show, sells shovels; Jerry and Nadine watch.
05.21 Colonel Davis sends Cindy to investigate Garland's prints in Buckhorn.
05.22 The Roadhouse "Snake Eyes"-Trouble, Richard makes payment to Chad, chokes Charlotte.
05.23 Tammy researches Coops prints.
05.24 Evil Cooper mentions Mr. Stawberry to Warden Murphy before placing his one phone call, alarms sound.
05.25 In Buenos Aires something happens to something.
05.26 Dougie-Coop stands at statue, police ask him to leave "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.

Part 6: Don't die. (6/11)
Day 7 Continues
06.01 Dougie-Coop still in front of statue with police "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
06.02 Dougie-Coop gets taken home by police.
06.03 Janey-E and Dougie-Coop eat.
06.04 Dougie-Coop and Sonny Jim use the Clapper.
06.05 Janey-E sees picture of Dougie-Coop and Jade, Janey-E sets up appointment to make payment in park.
06.06 Stoplight.
06.07 One armed man warns Dougie-Coop "Don't die" -Phillip Gerard , Dougie-Coop doodles on case files "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
06.08 Albert complains about rain, meets with Diane at Max Von's Bar.
Day 8 September 24th-Wednesday
06.09 Red meets with Richard discusses Sparkle, liver issues, flips coin.
06.10 Richard drives off in truck.
06.11 Bill drives Carl into Twin Peaks from Fat Trout, Mickey rides along and mentions Linda.
06.12 Miriam eats pie at RR Diner.
06.13 Richard driving, Carl sits for on bench watches boy and his mother, Richard hits kid, Miriam witnesses, Carl consoles, utility pole.
06.14 Duncan receives red square on computer screen, pulls envelope out of safe.
06.15 Coroner shows up to wreckage of Dougie's car, drugged out mother yells "119" Repeat of Day 6, find license plate on roof.
06.16 Ike at motel, rolls dice and receives pictures of Tammy and Dougie "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.17 Dougie-Coop goes to work, sits with Mullins who understands his doodles, looks at boxing poster.
06.18 Janey-E pays off toughs Jimmy and Tommy in park.
06.19 Ike kills Lorraine "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.20 Richard cleans blood off truck.
06.21 Hawk finds missing diary pages in men's room of police station.
06.22 Doris complains to Frank that her father's car not fixed.
06.23 Maggie and Chad discuss Frank and Doris' son's suicide.
06.24 The Roadhouse "Tarifa"-Sharon Van Etten.

Part 7: There's a body all right. (6/18)
Day 8 Continues The 10th according to Andy's watch.
07.01 Jerry calls Ben from the woods, he's lost his car.
07.02 Hawk and Frank go over diary pages.
07.03 Harry updates Frank on his health over phone.
07.04 Andy investigates man about truck and hit and run, sets up appointment to meet later.
07.05 Frank Skypes Doc Hayward, Coop visited comatose Audrey in hospital.
07.06 Cindy Knox visits Buckhorn "There’s a body all right" -Detective Dave Macklay, informs Col. Davis that it is not just prints but a body, figure walks down hall.
07.07 Gordon whistles in his office, Albert asks him to talk with Diane.
07.08 Gordon and Albert visit Diane at home.
07.09 On plane: Tammy shows backward print to Gordon and Albert, Gordon explains spiritual finger, Albert shows Tammy photo of Evil Coop in Rio.
07.10 Diane meets with Evil Coop in prison.
07.11 Diane tells Gordon it isn't Cooper.
07.12 Evil Coop asks guard to see Warden Murphy, mentions Strawberry.
07.13 Andy waits to meet man but he doesn't show "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti.
07.14 Warden Murphy meets with Evil Coop who mentions dog leg, Mr. Strawberry and Joe McCloskey, Evil Coop wants himself and Ray released.
07.15 Police investigate Dougie Coop and Janey-E about his car.
07.16 Ike attempts to shoot Dougie Coop, The EotA appears and Coop fends off Ike.
07.17 Witnesses are interviewed.
07.18 Ben and Beverly hear humming in Great Northern.
07.19 Beverly and Tom argue.
07.20 The Roadhouse gets swept up "Green Onions"-Booker T. & The M.G.'s.
07.21 Jean-Michel gets phone call about underage prostitution.
07.22 Evil Coop and Ray are released from prison.
07.23 RR Diner "Sleepwalk"-Santo & Johnny.

Part 8: Gotta light? (6/25)
Day 8 Continues
08.01 Ray drives while Evil Coop texts truck plate number.
08.02 Ray pees, Evil Coop pulls gun on Ray, Ray shoots Evil Coop, Woodsmen rub Evil Coop's guts on his face, Bob is seen on his stomach, Ray drives off.
08.03 Ray calls Phillip.
08.04 The Roadhouse "She's Gone Away"-Nine Inch Nails.
08.05 Evil Coop sits up.
July 16, 1945 White Sands, NM - 5:29 AM
08.06 Atom bomb detonated "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima"-Warsaw National Philharmonic.
08.07 Convenience store.
08.08 Mother vomits up Bob.
08.09 Explosion, blood cells, purple land, mountain island with building on peak.
08.10 Black and White Room: Señorita Dido listens to Victrola "Slow 30's Room"-David Lynch & Dean Hurley, The Giant turns off alarm.
08.11 The Giant walks to theater.
08.12 The Giant sees bomb, convenience store and Bob on movie screen, he levitates, Señorita Dido holds gold Laura orb that comes out of The Giant's head, she releases orb into tube and onto image of Earth on movie screen.
August 5, 1956 New Mexico Desert
08.13 Locust-frog hatches.
08.14 Boy walks girl home, she finds penny.
08.15 Woodsman floats down to desert.
08.16 Couple drive down road, stopped by evil hobos, "Gotta light?"-The Woodsman, couple speeds off.
08.17 Boy kisses girl, she runs inside house.
08.18 Woodsman at KPJK radio station "My Prayer"-The Platters, mechanic listens to radio, waitress listens at Pop's Diner, girl listens on bed, Woodsman kills receptionist and squeezes head of disc jockey, stops song and broadcasts "This is the water. And this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within." Mechanic and waitress collapse, locust-frog crawls towards girls house, girl collapses on bed, locust-frog crawls into her mouth, Woodsman kills disc jockey, Woodsman walks off into desert, horse whinnies.

Part 9: This is the chair. (7/9)
Part 10: Laura is the one. (7/16)
Part 11: There's fire where you are going. (7/23)
Part 12: Let's rock. (7/30)
Part 13: (8/6)
Part 14: (8/13)
Part 15: (8/20)
Part 16: (8/27)
Part 17: (9/3)
Part 18: (9/3)


Hi! Beautiful work, bravo! I am a French poster, so I hope my English is correct.

One guess about "Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove, receives call from Log Lady."
It may happen, in fact, at the end of Episode 7, when we see the woods (same establishing shot), and then it cuts suddenly to the RR.

It explains that Hawk doesn't go to see Margaret to take tea, because it will happen in one of the future episodes. Note also that the scene cuts, with Hawk in the woods, white light on the camera... And then, next scene with Hawk, he is searching what is missing in the files in the conference room, which looks more like a reaction to the first call from Margaret ("something is missing"). The second call in the woods would fit rather well after the discovery of the Missing pages from Laura's diary. Hawk reads about "The Good Dale is in the Black Lodge", and then goes to Glastonbury Grove at the end of Day 8.

I have the feeling, also, that episode 1 & 2 could happen in only 2 days. But some elements of Day 2 are shown in episode 1, and some elements of Day 1 are shown in Episode 2. Also, Lynch/Frost may play little games with the Time Zone. I don't know it well in USA, so I may be wrong, but could it be still day in Washington State (the end of the day of course) and already night in New York?

So, for ep1 & 2, maybe it goes like this:

D1 Day - TP - Jacoby and shovels EP1
D1 Night in NY - Tracey can't go in EP1
D1 Day - TP - Ben & Jerry, Lucy and insurance man EP1
D1 Day - Buckhorn - Ruth Davenport body is discovered EP1
D1 Day - Buckhorn - Bill Hastings is arrested, something is discovered in his car EP1
D1 Night - Mister C. & Buella EP1
D1 Night - TP -Margaret calls Hawk "something is missing" EP1
D1 Night - Buckhorn - The Hastings argue in the cell, the Woodsman appears, Mr C. kills Mrs Hastings EP2
D1 Night - Mister C. at the dinner with Ray, Darya and Jack EP2
D2 Day - TP - Hawk says to Andy and Lucy that "something is missing" and ask them to help him EP1
D2 Day - Mr C. kills Jack EP2
D2 Night - LV - Todd "she has the job" EP2
D2 Night - Mr C. kills Darya, talks to Jeffries, talks with Chantal about a meeting with Hutch EP2
D2 Night - TP - Sarah Palmer watch TV, James & Shelly at the Roadhouse EP2
D2 Black Lodge - Cooper sees the OAM, Laura, EOTA, Leland… EOTA's Doppelgänger screams "non-existent" and Cooper is out EP2
D2 Night - NY - Cooper appears in the box, the Experiment kills Sam and Tracey EP1+EP2

D8 Night - TP - Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove after the discovery of Laura's pages about The Black Lodge and the Good Dale EP1/EP7

And, there is the Giant scene in black & white...
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:37 am

I likè the thoughts of Hawk/Glastonbury Grove being set in future episodes. It would make more sense why the scene wasn't resolved yet.

As more episodes are released and we get confirmation I'll adjust the timeline.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:01 am

Hockey Mask wrote:I likè the thoughts of Hawk/Glastonbury Grove being set in future episodes. It would make more sense why the scene wasn't resolved yet.

As more episodes are released and we get confirmation I'll adjust the timeline.


Great! Yes, I guess there will be work to do when we'll have seen the 18 chapters!
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby AgentEcho » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:37 am

There's been some theories about a non linear chronological representation of events... we've seen one confirmed example with Coop ending up in the glass box before Sam and Tracy encounter The Experiment. We can dismiss the Dougie/Coop theory since the key chronologically connects those scenes at least to the Ben Horne scenes. But I'm wondering if there still might be something at play here with regards to the Evil Cooper/Buckhorn scenes.

It's still unclear what happened with the Woodsman resurrection scene. Was Bob being separated from him? And if so, is Bob now free to possess Bill Hastings? The only thing we have connecting the Buckhorn scenes to anything from the other storylines was that Evil Cooper showed up to kill Bill Hasting's wife, but the timing of that was kind of odd. Evil Cooper was with Ray and Daria, and then there's this kind of isolated scene where he shows up at the Hastings house, and then we see him back with Ray and Daria. He could have gone off to do something by himself, but I don't recall anything from his Ray and Daria scenes that alludes to him going off to the Hasting's home. There is also seemingly the connection that Evil Coop has some interest in information that Hastings' secretary has, but we don't know more than that, so this could be something he was interested in before Hastings was possessed. The latest thing we have in the Buckhorn timeline was Colonel Davis making a phone call to the FBI, which we don't see the other end of. This would place it timeline wise to the FBI investigations of the Evil Cooper scenes. We'll see how this all plays out, but there's obviously a bit more to tell about the Bill Hastings story which we haven't revisited in several episodes.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:22 am

AgentEcho wrote:There's been some theories about a non linear chronological representation of events... we've seen one confirmed example with Coop ending up in the glass box before Sam and Tracy encounter The Experiment. We can dismiss the Dougie/Coop theory since the key chronologically connects those scenes at least to the Ben Horne scenes. But I'm wondering if there still might be something at play here with regards to the Evil Cooper/Buckhorn scenes.

It's still unclear what happened with the Woodsman resurrection scene. Was Bob being separated from him? And if so, is Bob now free to possess Bill Hastings? The only thing we have connecting the Buckhorn scenes to anything from the other storylines was that Evil Cooper showed up to kill Bill Hasting's wife, but the timing of that was kind of odd. Evil Cooper was with Ray and Daria, and then there's this kind of isolated scene where he shows up at the Hastings house, and then we see him back with Ray and Daria. He could have gone off to do something by himself, but I don't recall anything from his Ray and Daria scenes that alludes to him going off to the Hasting's home. There is also seemingly the connection that Evil Coop has some interest in information that Hastings' secretary has, but we don't know more than that, so this could be something he was interested in before Hastings was possessed. The latest thing we have in the Buckhorn timeline was Colonel Davis making a phone call to the FBI, which we don't see the other end of. This would place it timeline wise to the FBI investigations of the Evil Cooper scenes. We'll see how this all plays out, but there's obviously a bit more to tell about the Bill Hastings story which we haven't revisited in several episodes.


Yes, great post! I feel the same.

When we understand in episode 8 that Ray works with Phillip to kill Mister C., suddenly I imagined one theory: what if Dougie Jones is the future of Mister C. ?

After that scene in episode 8, where BOB is taken off Cooper's body, Cooper doppelgänger is now another kind of man. He is not The Good Dale, but he is not BOB neither. He finds the Owl Cave Ring that he wants so much. He changes his looks and becomes Dougie Jones (in some strange, magical way ?!). Then, Phillip finds him and send new killers on his track (the snipers). And finally, The Good Dale is send back on earth and exchanged with his Doppelgänger-Dougie.

That would mean that there always have been only one Cooper "body" on earth, the doppelganger with BOB, the doppelganger as Dougie Jones, and then The Good Dale.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby AgentEcho » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:00 am

I think Lynch has definitely been playing loosely with time even just in the editing process. For example in Part 5 there was a scene with Tammy Preston looking at finger prints. That didn't pay off until Part 7. I'd assume a decent amount of time passed in some of the other story lines. Was Tammy staring at those prints for a couple of days before bringing it to Gordon and Albert? Since the episodes weren't written as individual episodes, it seems as though Lynch has felt free to find room for certain scenes that don't strictly adhere to a chronological order of events.

And obviously there's at least one confirmed instance of a genuine intentionally non-linear use of time. This is something Lynch loves to play with in general, so it would hardly be surprising if there were more examples down the road. I'm not sure if the Hastings story is one example, but I'm not seeing any direct reason it wouldn't be. The scene where the Doppelganger shoots Hastings' wife seems dropped in the middle of the Doppelganger/Ray and Darya story. It is known the Doppelganger is interested in Hastings when he's with Ray and Darya, but there could be reasons why they could have been interested in him before the murder. At this point we still don't know how or why Hastings got involved in that, so explaining the early interest in him could explain that as well.

If the theories that Dougie/Coop and the Doppelganger are different timelines of the same physical character is to work, the real Dougie Jones has to be explained. What exactly happened when this overweight version of Cooper was sucked into the Lodge and the thinner Cooper wearing the clothes he disappeared in came out? Why did the One Armed Man say he was manufactured for a purpose? It makes little sense if Dougie Jones is the same physical character as Dougie/Coop or the Doppelganger. It makes sense if doppelgangers that are different physical characters can be manufactured. Granted, it could also be a classic Lynchian non sequitur, but Lynch doesn't typically use those to mislead.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:59 am

AgentEcho wrote:I think Lynch has definitely been playing loosely with time even just in the editing process. For example in Part 5 there was a scene with Tammy Preston looking at finger prints. That didn't pay off until Part 7. I'd assume a decent amount of time passed in some of the other story lines. Was Tammy staring at those prints for a couple of days before bringing it to Gordon and Albert?

Part 5 and Part 7 was only the difference of Day 7 and Day 8.

Interestingly, Part 3 was the start of Day 6. We have only progressed 3 days in the last 5 parts.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:20 pm

Thanks to the great job done by Hockey Mask, the timeline thing is turning me into a detective!

So, I thought some of you might be interested by one possible version of the timeline... It's just a bunch of theories! We will see if all of it works in the next episodes.

My guess is that it is all about "Is It Future, or Is It Past?", and "Time and Time Again". Those two sentences are said at the very beginning of each Black Lodge scenes in episode 2.
That is why I thought that season 3 may be cut in two halfs: one is past, the other is present.

Past: Mister C., The Buckhorn Case, New York, The FBI quartet
Present : Twin Peaks, The Good Dale, Las Vegas


The link between them maybe the scene in episode 8, where Mister C. has Bob taken off him. Maybe he then turns into a Doppleganger, and finds a new identity to escape from Phillip Jeffries killers: he becomes Dougie Jones. It works with the timeline of Jeffries: Phillip wants to be "with Bob again" (Part 2), but Cooper escapes from the call of the Lodge (Part 3, so Mister C would see his future self, Dougie, in fact), then Phillip asks Ray to kill Cooper. Ray fails, so Phillip sends new snipers to kill Cooper-Dougie, with the help of Mr Todd in Las Vegas.

Maybe it doesn't work at all, but I just wanted to propose this timeline to you. Who knows? Maybe it will help to find other new theories!

The "Is it future or is it past?" sentence gave me other ideas: first, that part 1 and 2 shows us many things from the "future". The first scenes in Twin Peaks may happen during Day 3.
- Jacoby receives the shovels... why wouldn't he paint then immediately? In Part 3, he paints them, and he has the same clothes, the weather is also the same.
- In the scene with Lucy and the Insurance man, Lucy wears the same clothes as in Part 3. Maybe the first scenes in Twin Peaks of Part 1 goes like this: Day 3 - Day 2 - Day 1.
- The New York shows us more obviously that effect of "time and time again" + "is it future or is it past?"
- And, there is the Glastonbury Grove scene. I am really convinced that this scene happens at Day 5 (end of Part 7). First, because Hawk never goes to take the tea with Margaret as he promised. Also, it makes sense that he has the idea to come back to Glastonbury after the discovery of the missing pages from Laura's Diary, about The Black Lodge. It's in that scene where he talks to Frank Truman (beginning of Part 7) about all that, that Hawk really understands that the Good Dale may till be trapped at Glastonbury Grove, under the sycamore trees.

Well, that is for the "is it future or is it past?" For the other sentence, "Time and time again", it well applies with the theory about Part 5 and Part 7, restarting the days of Part 4 and Part 6. I propose, in my timeline, that Part 1 and 2 do that a lot in themselves. Like a spiral. At the beginning, it turns back very quickly. And, slowly, the timeline gets more and more "normal". Maybe, in the next episodes, past and present will meet, and Time will stop to repeat itself!

So, I used the great work done by Hockey Mask, to applie all those theories. I hope you'll enjoy it! And I hope my english is correct (French poster here). Thanks.


EPISODE/QUOTE
PAST DAY NUMBER AND DATE
PRESENT DAY NUMBER AND DATE
MUSIC


Part 1: My log has a message for you. (5/21)
01.01 "Hello, Agent Cooper. I'll see you again in 25 years. Meanwhile."
01.02 Giant tells Cooper to listen to the sounds, remember "430" and Richard and Linda.

Present - Day 3 - The 8th
01.03 Jacoby receives shovel delivery. (In this theory, he paints them immediately, but we see it in episode 3)
Past - Day 1 - Friday 20th September
01.04 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey brings coffee, security won't allow her to go up.
Present - Day 2 - The 7th
01.05 Ben & Jerry meet at Great Northern, Beverly is new secretary.
01.06 Insurance salesman attempts to find Sheriff Truman through Lucy.
Past - Day 1 - Friday 20th September
01.07 Evil Cooper goes to cabin in woods "American Woman" - Muddy Magnolias/Lynch Remix, Evil Cooper meets with Otis and Beula, Ray and Darya leave with Evil Coop.
Past - Day 2 - Saturday 21th September
01.08 NYC: Sam records box, Tracey returns, security guard missing, Sam & Tracey die via a creature in the box.
Past - Day 1 - Friday 20th September
01.09 Margerie smells odor from neighbor's apartment, calls police.
01.10 Police discover Ruth in apartment.
01.11 Hank calls Harvey.
Present - Day 1 - The 6th
01.12 Log Lady calls Hawk "My log has a message for you" -Log Lady.
Past - Day 2 - Saturday 21th September (Saturday according to Hastings interrogation)
01.13 Constance discovers Hastings' prints match prints at crime scene.
01.14 Hastings is arrested.
Present - Day 2 - The 7th
01.15 Hawk opens Laura's old police files.
Past - Day 2 - Saturday 21th September
01.16 Hastings interrogated by Dave.
01.17 Hastings placed in jail.
01.18 Hastings home and car is searched, find piece of flesh in trunk
01.19 Giant, phonograph. [NOT INCLUDED IN TWO PARTER]

Part 2: The stars turn and a time presents itself. (5/21)
Past - Day 2 continues - Saturday 21th September
02.01 Phyllis visits Hastings in jail.
02.02 Phyllis tells George "He knows."
02.03 Disembodied head floats from cell next to Hastings.
02.04 Evil Cooper shoots Phyllis.
Present - Day 2 - The 7th
02.05 Vegas: Duncan gives Roger money to pay "her" for the job, warns Roger about "him".
Past - Day 1 - Friday 20th September
02.06 Railroad crossing flashes.
02.07 Evil Cooper makes plans in diner with Ray, Darya and Jack, Evil Cooper wants information from Hastings secretary via Ray.
Present - Day 5 - The 10th
02.08 Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove, receives call from Log Lady. "The stars turn and a time presents itself" -Log Lady (In this theory, Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove after the discovery of the missing pages, in episode 7, when we see the woods once again) "Dark Mood Woods" -Angelo Badalamenti
Present - Day 2 - The 7th
02.09 Cooper in Red Room with One-armed Man whose first sentence is "Is it future or is it past?", Laura removes her face, whispers to Copper and gets sucked out of room, Cooper meets The Evolution of the Arm.
Past - Day 2 - Saturday 21th September
02.10 Evil Cooper kills Jack at storage center.
02.11 Evil Cooper, at motel, catches Darya lying about phone call, shows her playing card and kills her.
02.12 Evil Cooper contacts Jefferies, downloads prison plans, Evil Cooper goes next door, tells Chantal (Hutch's wife) to clean up the other room, fingers her.
Present - Day 2 - The 7th
02.13 EotA first sentence is "253, Time and Time Again", Cooper is told by EotA to "go now", Leland tells Cooper to "Find Laura", Cooper from Red Room sees Evil Cooper driving Day 7?, EotA's doppelgänger, Cooper falls thru floor.
02.14 Cooper visits the box in NYC. Day 2
02.15 Sarah watches TV.
02.16 The Roadhouse with James, Shelly, Red & Jean-Michel Renault, James has been in an accident, Shelly doesn't like her daughter Becky with Steven, she'll flirts with Red "Shadow" -Chromatics.

Part 3: Call for help. (5/21 & 5/28)
03.01 Cooper in purple room.
Past - Day 3 - Sunday 22th September (9/22 according to arrest report)
03.02 Evil Cooper gets in accident.
Present - Day 3 - The 8th
03.03 Dougie and Jade in bed, Dougie's arm in numb, Dougie wearing ring, Jade showers.
Past - Day 3 - Sunday 22th September
03.04 Evil Coop vomits.
Present - Day 3 - The 8th
03.05 Dougie goes to red room, turns into gold bead, One-armed man puts ring on table.
03.06 Cooper switches with Dougie.
03.07 Jade drives Dougie-Coop, hitmen miss Dougie-Coop when he ducks to get Great Northern key.
03.08 Boy watches from window, Drugged out mother yells "119". Repeats on Day 5
Past - Day 3 - Sunday 22th September
03.09 Police find Evil-Coop and get sick from smell.
Present - Day 3 - The 8th
03.10 Hawk, Andy & Lucy go thru files, "Is it the bunny?".
03.11 Jacoby paints shovels. (immediately after their delivery, seen in Part 1)
03.12 Jade drops off Dougie at Silver Mustang. "Call for help" -Cooper
03.13 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
Past - Day 3 - Sunday 22th September
03.14 FBI meeting, Gordon, Albert and Tammy learn Cooper is in South Dakota.
Present - Day 3 - The 8th
03.15 The Roadhouse "Mississippi" -The Cactus Blossoms.

Part 4: ...brings back some memories. (5/21 & 5/28)
Present - Day 3 Continues - The 8th
04.01 Dougie-Coop wins jackpots.
04.02 Bill Shaker sees Dougie-Coop in casino.
04.03 Casino manager pays off Dougie-Coop, provides limo home.
04.04 Limo driver finds Dougie-Coop's home.
04.05 Janey-E yells at Dougie-Coop, counts money.
Past - Day 3 Continues - Sunday 22th September
04.06 Cole meets with Denise.
Present - Day 3 - The 8th
04.07 Lucy speaks with Truman on his cell phone about thermostat, freaks out.
04.08 Maggie tells Frank about overdose.
04.09 Frank discusses Chinese designer drug and surveillance cameras with Bobby.
04.10 Andy explains cell phones to Lucy.
04.11 Hawk updates Frank, Chad bad mouths log lady.
04.12 Bobby sees Laura's picture. "…brings back some memories" -Bobby Briggs "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti, Bobby explains Cooper was the last one to see Major Briggs alive before he died in fire.
04.13 Wally Brando arrives.
Present - Day 4 - The 9th
04.14 One-armed Man tells Dougie-Coop he was tricked.
04.15 Janey-E helps Dougie-Coop pee, get dressed.
04.16 Dougie-Coop has breakfast at home "Take Five"-Dave Brubeck.
Past - Day 4 - Monday 23th September
04.17 South Dakota police files gets blocked.
04.18 Tammy gets car sick, Albert and Gordon discuss Mt. Rushmore.
04.19 Gordon learns contents of Evil-Coop's trunk: cocaine, machine gun, dog leg.
04.20 Cole, Albert & Tammy interview Evil-Coop, Albert says he's been working with Jeffries.
04.21 Gordon wants to hear about Evil-Coop's private phone call when he has it.
04.22 Gordon asks Tammy to leave because she's wearing a wire, Albert tells Gordon he authorized Jeffries to give Cooper info about man in Colombia, Gordon asks Albert to find "her".
Present - Day 4 - The 9th
04.23 The Roadhouse "Lark"-Au Revoir Simone.

Part 5: Case files. (6/4)
Present - Day 4 Restarts - The 9th
05.01 Vegas "The Flame"-Johnny Jewel, Guys still surveilling house.
05.02 Lorraine texts Buenos Aires "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
Past - Day 4 - Monday 23th September
05.03 Autopsy of body, find Dougie's wedding ring in stomach.
05.04 Evil Cooper sees Bob in jail cell mirror.
Present - Day 4 - The 9th
05.05 Mike interviews Steven.
05.06 Frank talks to Harry, Doris visits Frank and argue about leaking pipe.
05.07 Dougie-Coop cries when he sees Sonny Jim in back of car.
05.08 Two cars drive by Dougie's abandoned car "Habit"-Uniform.
05.09 Janey-E drops off Dougie-Coop at work, he mimics statue, follows coffee up to office, Darren hits on girl, Frank enjoys green tea, Dougie-Coop calls Tony a liar.
05.10 Dougie-Coop receives homework from Mullins "Case files" -Cooper.
05.11 Girl let's Dougie-Coop use ladie's room.
05.12 Manager gets fired (and roughed up) by Bradley and Rodney Mitchum, replace him with Warrick.
05.13 Boy wanders across street to Dougie's car, thieves show up to steal Dougie's car and it blows up "Tabloid"-Uniform, druggie mom wakes up.
05.14 Car washer finds Great Northern key in Jade's Jeep, Jade mails back key.
05.15 Becky drops off basket to a Toad, Shelly loans Becky money.
05.16 Steve drives to back of RR Diner, Becky and Steven snort coke, Becky high as they drive "I Love How You Love Me"-The Paris Sisters.
05.17 Dougie-Coop rides elevator down backwards.
05.18 Dougie-Coop gazes at statue.
05.19 Hawk and Andy go thru files.
05.20 Jacoby/Dr. Amp does show, sells shovels; Jerry and Nadine watch.
Past - Day 4 - Monday 23th September
05.21 Colonel Davis sends Cindy to investigate Garland's prints in Buckhorn.
Present - Day 4 - The 9th
05.22 The Roadhouse "Snake Eyes"-Trouble, Richard makes payment to Chad, chokes Charlotte.
Past - Day 4 - Monday 23th September
05.23 Tammy researches Coops prints.
05.24 Evil Cooper mentions Mr. Stawberry to Warden Murphy before placing his one phone call, alarms sound.
Present - Day 4 - The 9th
05.25 In Buenos Aires something happens to something.
05.26 Dougie-Coop stands at statue, police ask him to leave "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.

Part 6: Don't die. (6/11)
Present - Day 4 Continues - The 9th
06.01 Dougie-Coop still in front of statue with police "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
06.02 Dougie-Coop gets taken home by police.
06.03 Janey-E and Dougie-Coop eat.
06.04 Dougie-Coop and Sonny Jim use the Clapper.
06.05 Janey-E sees picture of Dougie-Coop and Jade, Janey-E sets up appointment to make payment in park.
06.06 Stoplight.
06.07 One armed man warns Dougie-Coop "Don't die" -Phillip Gerard , Dougie-Coop doodles on case files "Windswept"-Johnny Jewel.
Past - Day 4 - Monday 23th September
06.08 Albert complains about rain, meets with Diane at Max Von's Bar.
Present - Day 5 - The 10th
06.09 Red meets with Richard discusses Sparkle, liver issues, flips coin.
06.10 Richard drives off in truck.
06.11 Bill drives Carl into Twin Peaks from Fat Trout, Mickey rides along and mentions Linda.
06.12 Miriam eats pie at RR Diner.
06.13 Richard driving, Carl sits for on bench watches boy and his mother, Richard hits kid, Miriam witnesses, Carl consoles, utility pole.
06.14 Duncan receives red square on computer screen, pulls envelope out of safe.
06.15 Coroner shows up to wreckage of Dougie's car, drugged out mother yells "119" Repeat of Day 6, find license plate on roof.
06.16 Ike at motel, rolls dice and receives pictures of Tammy and Dougie "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.17 Dougie-Coop goes to work, sits with Mullins who understands his doodles, looks at boxing poster.
06.18 Janey-E pays off toughs Jimmy and Tommy in park.
06.19 Ike kills Lorraine "I Am"-BluntedBeatz/"Good Man"-Old School Hip-Hop Beat.
06.20 Richard cleans blood off truck.
06.21 Hawk finds missing diary pages in men's room of police station.
06.22 Doris complains to Frank that her father's car not fixed.
06.23 Maggie and Chad discuss Frank and Doris' son's suicide.
06.24 The Roadhouse "Tarifa"-Sharon Van Etten.

Part 7: There's a body all right. (6/18)
Present - Day 5 - The 10th Continues The 10th according to Andy's watch.
07.01 Jerry calls Ben from the woods, he's lost his car.
07.02 Hawk and Frank go over diary pages.
07.03 Harry updates Frank on his health over phone.
07.04 Andy investigates man about truck and hit and run, sets up appointment to meet later.
07.05 Frank Skypes Doc Hayward, Coop visited comatose Audrey in hospital.
Past - Day 5 - Tuesday 24th September
07.06 Cindy Knox visits Buckhorn "There’s a body all right" -Detective Dave Macklay, informs Col. Davis that it is not just prints but a body, figure walks down hall.
07.07 Gordon whistles in his office, Albert asks him to talk with Diane.
07.08 Gordon and Albert visit Diane at home.
07.09 On plane: Tammy shows backward print to Gordon and Albert, Gordon explains spiritual finger, Albert shows Tammy photo of Evil Coop in Rio.
07.10 Diane meets with Evil Coop in prison.
07.11 Diane tells Gordon it isn't Cooper.
07.12 Evil Coop asks guard to see Warden Murphy, mentions Strawberry.
Present - Day 5 - The 10th
07.13 Andy waits to meet man but he doesn't show "Laura Palmer's Theme" -Angelo Badalamenti.
Past - Day 5 - Tuesday 24th September
07.14 Warden Murphy meets with Evil Coop who mentions dog leg, Mr. Strawberry and Joe McCloskey, Evil Coop wants himself and Ray released.
Present - Day 5 - The 10th
07.15 Police investigate Dougie Coop and Janey-E about his car.
07.16 Ike attempts to shoot Dougie Coop, The EotA appears and Coop fends off Ike.
07.17 Witnesses are interviewed.
07.18 Ben and Beverly hear humming in Great Northern.
07.19 Beverly and Tom argue.
07.20 The Roadhouse gets swept up "Green Onions"-Booker T. & The M.G.'s.
07.21 Jean-Michel gets phone call about underage prostitution.
Past - Day 5 - Tuesday 24th September
07.22 Evil Coop and Ray are released from prison.
Present - Day 5 - The 10th
07.23 Shot of the woods at night (Hawk goes to Glastonbury Grove, after his discovery of the missing pages about The Black Lodge, the scene was shown as a flash-forward in Part 2)
07.24 RR Diner "Sleepwalk"-Santo & Johnny.

Part 8: Gotta light? (6/25)
Past - Day 5 Continues - Tuesday 24th September
08.01 Ray drives while Evil Coop texts truck plate number.
08.02 Ray pees, Evil Coop pulls gun on Ray, Ray shoots Evil Coop, Woodsmen rub Evil Coop's guts on his face, Bob is seen on his stomach, Ray drives off.
08.03 Ray calls Phillip.
08.04 The Roadhouse "She's Gone Away"-Nine Inch Nails.
08.05 Evil Coop sits up.
July 16, 1945 White Sands, NM - 5:29 AM
08.06 Atom bomb detonated "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima"-Warsaw National Philharmonic.
08.07 Convenience store.
08.08 Mother vomits up Bob.
08.09 Explosion, blood cells, purple land, mountain island with building on peak.
08.10 Black and White Room: Señorita Dido listens to Victrola "Slow 30's Room"-David Lynch & Dean Hurley, The Giant turns off alarm.
08.11 The Giant walks to theater.
08.12 The Giant sees bomb, convenience store and Bob on movie screen, he levitates, Señorita Dido holds gold Laura orb that comes out of The Giant's head, she releases orb into tube and onto image of Earth on movie screen.
August 5, 1956 New Mexico Desert
08.13 Locust-frog hatches.
08.14 Boy walks girl home, she finds penny.
08.15 Woodsman floats down to desert.
08.16 Couple drive down road, stopped by evil hobos, "Gotta light?"-The Woodsman, couple speeds off.
08.17 Boy kisses girl, she runs inside house.
08.18 Woodsman at KPJK radio station "My Prayer"-The Platters, mechanic listens to radio, waitress listens at Pop's Diner, girl listens on bed, Woodsman kills receptionist and squeezes head of disc jockey, stops song and broadcasts "This is the water. And this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within." Mechanic and waitress collapse, locust-frog crawls towards girls house, girl collapses on bed, locust-frog crawls into her mouth, Woodsman kills disc jockey, Woodsman walks off into desert, horse whinnies.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Hockey Mask » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:24 pm

I agree that there has to be something to "Is it future or is it past?" How we get there I have no idea.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby LateReg » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:15 pm

Hockey Mask wrote:
AgentEcho wrote:I think Lynch has definitely been playing loosely with time even just in the editing process. For example in Part 5 there was a scene with Tammy Preston looking at finger prints. That didn't pay off until Part 7. I'd assume a decent amount of time passed in some of the other story lines. Was Tammy staring at those prints for a couple of days before bringing it to Gordon and Albert?

Part 5 and Part 7 was only the difference of Day 7 and Day 8.

Interestingly, Part 3 was the start of Day 6. We have only progressed 3 days in the last 5 parts.


Yes, this. Lynch may be playing with time, but mostly in the sense of how we the viewers perceive it. As you said, only three days have passed since part 3, but because we have to wait a week for every new Part, and because we are used to time passing more quickly in other TV shows, we automatically assume that more time has passed, or that Lynch is taking forever to return to certain storylines. He's not taking forever at all; rather, the show has so much going on that barely any time is passing, and we return to each storyline at the exact moment we need to within the story's very tight timeline. Grasping the way time passes is very much a key to getting into the show, imo.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:19 am

Hockey Mask wrote:I agree that there has to be something to "Is it future or is it past?" How we get there I have no idea.


Yes, the dates may also prove that (Mister C. is arrested in part 3 and in part 4 we learn that it happened the 22/9, but Andy's watch shows the 10th in part 7 = two timelines?).

The wardrobe may helps too. Lucy's clothes with the insurance man in Part 1 are the same as with Hawk in the conference room later in Part 1: it may prove that the 2 scenes are on Day 2, whereas the editing make us think it is 2 different days. If Lucy changes her clothes everyday, it would prove that the editing of Part 1-2 is going non-chronological.

Same in Part 3, she has a pink sweater (the bunnies scene). In part 4, she has the same pink sweater, a small detail that proves that those scenes with Frank, Bobby Briggs, Chad & Wally, happen later at night the same day (Day 3).

Of course, there was the same thing in Part 4 and Part 5, with the clothes of the Jones family, that proved that their breakfast and the scene at the front-door happens in continuity, before Dougie goes to Lucky7.

LateReg wrote:Lynch may be playing with time, but mostly in the sense of how we the viewers perceive it. As you said, only three days have passed since part 3, but because we have to wait a week for every new Part, and because we are used to time passing more quickly in other TV shows, we automatically assume that more time has passed, or that Lynch is taking forever to return to certain storylines. He's not taking forever at all; rather, the show has so much going on that barely any time is passing, and we return to each storyline at the exact moment we need to within the story's very tight timeline. Grasping the way time passes is very much a key to getting into the show, imo.


Yes, maybe Lynch is taking is time, by repeating "time and time again" + mixing past timeline and present timeline:
- Part 1-2 repeat Day 1 and Day 2 several times and may also show some scenes from the future (Day 3 with Jacoby, Day 5 with Hawk at Glastonbury)/ Same effect with the Past scenes, Day 1 and Day 2 are shown in a chaotic way
- Part 3 shows Day 3 for Present and Past
- Part 4 shows Day 4 for Present and Past
- Part 5 repeats Day 4 for Present and Past
- Part 6 shows Day 5 for Present and Past
- Part 7 continues Day 5 for Present and Past
- Part 8 continues Day 5 for Past, maybe Present (or maybe the NIN concert is from the past?), then goes deep into the Past to 1945
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby Mr. Reindeer » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:02 pm

So, Part 9 seems to take place on 9/29 (Frank Truman says 10/01 is 2 days away; Bill Hastings dates his ID of Major Briggs as what appears to be "9/20," but people have speculated it's actually just a sloppy/cut-off "9/29").
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby counterpaul » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:55 pm

Mr. Reindeer wrote:So, Part 9 seems to take place on 9/29 (Frank Truman says 10/01 is 2 days away; Bill Hastings dates his ID of Major Briggs as what appears to be "9/20," but people have speculated it's actually just a sloppy/cut-off "9/29").


Yeah, I think the sloppy 29 theory is probably right--as he writes the date, he enunciates "nine" and "twenty" pretty clearly, but there is also a mumbled extra syllable after "twenty" that could definitely be "nine."

All the dates we've been using were based on the 9/22 on COOPER's arrest report. While the number of days that go by before COOPER is arrested and Coop replaces Dougie in Vegas are somewhat ambiguous, I don't really see how several extra days could have occurred at any point since then--despite the slow pace, the plotting has actually been quite tight.

I guess the police report (which was never featured and contained a wildly inaccurate birthdate for Coop anyway) must have been wrong.

I say we edit the timeline, using the same number of days, but back-dating it from 9/29. So, if Day 9 is 9/29, Day 1 would be 9/21.

As far as Andy's watch, my guess is it's just set incorrectly. It could be that the hit-and-run plot-line was originally planned to happen later and they moved it up, and if that's the case, it's fine. Andy having a watch with the wrong date isn't exactly unrealistic.

With COOPER's call to Mr. Todd, pretty much all of the potential readings requiring multiple timelines have been eliminated. The only one that still remains vaguely arguable is that everything happening in Twin Peaks is happening before or after everything else (for example, it could be a year earlier or later than every other timeline, or, if someone wants to argue that Bill did in fact write 9/20, a few days later), but I have a feeling that will soon be nipped in the bud as well.
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Re: Season 3 Timeline (SPOILERS)

Postby oxyboldine » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:09 am

counterpaul wrote:
Mr. Reindeer wrote:So, Part 9 seems to take place on 9/29 (Frank Truman says 10/01 is 2 days away; Bill Hastings dates his ID of Major Briggs as what appears to be "9/20," but people have speculated it's actually just a sloppy/cut-off "9/29").


Yeah, I think the sloppy 29 theory is probably right--as he writes the date, he enunciates "nine" and "twenty" pretty clearly, but there is also a mumbled extra syllable after "twenty" that could definitely be "nine."

All the dates we've been using were based on the 9/22 on COOPER's arrest report. While the number of days that go by before COOPER is arrested and Coop replaces Dougie in Vegas are somewhat ambiguous, I don't really see how several extra days could have occurred at any point since then--despite the slow pace, the plotting has actually been quite tight.

I guess the police report (which was never featured and contained a wildly inaccurate birthdate for Coop anyway) must have been wrong.

I say we edit the timeline, using the same number of days, but back-dating it from 9/29. So, if Day 9 is 9/29, Day 1 would be 9/21.

As far as Andy's watch, my guess is it's just set incorrectly. It could be that the hit-and-run plot-line was originally planned to happen later and they moved it up, and if that's the case, it's fine. Andy having a watch with the wrong date isn't exactly unrealistic.

With COOPER's call to Mr. Todd, pretty much all of the potential readings requiring multiple timelines have been eliminated. The only one that still remains vaguely arguable is that everything happening in Twin Peaks is happening before or after everything else (for example, it could be a year earlier or later than every other timeline, or, if someone wants to argue that Bill did in fact write 9/20, a few days later), but I have a feeling that will soon be nipped in the bud as well.


Yes, the scene with Mr Todd seems to prove that the multiple timelines theory doesn't work, as Mister C. asks him to eliminate Dougie. Dougie and Mister C. exist at the same time (and that's fascinating). Regarding the Twin Peaks scenes, they must take place around the same times too: the key send by Jade arrives some days later at the Great Northern.

Nevertheless, new little things in Part 9 made me wonder about a "tricky" timeline, despite Mr Todd's scene. So I'll continue to be "Mister Multiple Timeline" just for fun. :D

- First scene with Lucy, she has a white shirt with red pattern, and red and blue wool sweater (around 22'00). Next scene with Lucy, different clothes: blue sweater and another shirt (another pattern on the collar) (35'00). Did the episode showed us 2 different days? Did the ellipse occured in the black cut after Jerry's hallucinations?

- So Frank Truman says the 10/1 and the 10/2 are "two days from now, and the day after". It means that Andy's watch was set badly, or that we came back in the past since Part 7. Hawk still have not mentionned his visit to Glastonbury Grove, even now that they are reading Brigg's indications. Once again, maybe that scene in Part 1 happens after that new discovery.

- At the end we see once again Au Revoir Simone, which was already on part 4... Did they came back to the Roadhouse some days after, or are we in the past? It is also in Part 4, the evening before (on the first part of the episode, before sunrise, that Bobby mentions her mother Betty knowing something about Cooper. So, it is possible that the scene with Betty happens the same day that Part 4, the day after Bobby's speech to Hawk & Frank, and before the Au Revoir Simone concert.


Actually I don't stand for one theory more than another! It's just those little details, it keeps making you wonder...

After all, maybe there is 3 timelines but with a very small shift? Mister C.'s timeline, Dougie's timeline, and Twin Peaks timeline are maybe separated by a few days only. Maybe Andy's watch was rightly set in Part 7, but that the Twin Peaks scenes are secretly edited in a strange way.

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